@suggestionsplease1
GC tactics, arguments, rationales, stats etc do seem to read from the same playbook as the far right approach to gay people.
There's a thread on feminism boards 'It will never happen', detailing crimes et by transwomen.
What if I were to start one about gay women? I could maybe start it off with this:
news.sky.com/story/gareeca-gordon-woman-who-murdered-friend-after-sexual-advances-rebuffed-jailed-for-life-12296606,
or perhaps this:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6855299/Lesbian-killer-prostitute-insists-disappearance-brother.html
Of course there are dozens more similar. Would you consider me or that action homophobic for starting that thread and driving forward the case that lesbians are more dangerous than straight women?
If you think that is homophobic why isn't the FWR thread transphobic?
If you think the FWR thread is fine then logically you must have no real issue with others creating threads about lesbians in this way, it's just a bit hypocritical otherwise, isn't it?
And of course they appeal to stats in the same way - they take information like this: Researchers found roughly a third of incarcerated women identify as lesbian or bisexual, "a proportion that is about 8 to 10 times greater than the 3.4 percent of lesbian or bisexual women in the U.S. population."
www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/overwhelming-number-lesbians-bisexual-women-incarcerated-n728666
To demonstrate that lesbians are more inherently more dangerous and aggressive, should not be housed with straight women etc.
The playbook for both is the same, and the scaremongering tactics harm lesbians when they are directed against us, and harm transwomen when they are directed against them.
I can see that you are trying hard to think clearly and logically. I will assume you are posting in good faith, so let me point out the flaw in your line of reasoning.
It may or may not be true that lesbian women are more dangerous than straight women, statistically - I really don't know.
But it is irrelevant, because the number of women who attack women is tiny, really tiny, compared to the number of men who attack women.
If your concern is genuinely about protecting women, you would not focus on a theoretical threat from lesbians - you would focus on the very real and obvious threat from men.
And as transwomen have the same offending-profile as men, i.e. they are just as likely (or not-likely) to attack women as any other male bodied people, then transwomen have to be considered along with other men in any attempt to safeguard women.
(Actually, males who claim to be transwomen are MORE dangerous to women, statistically as a group, that the general population of men, because predators will deliberately use the 'trans' cover to gain access to women.)
Yes it would be homophobic to start a thread like you describe.
No it is not transphobic to have a thread detailing the crimes of self-declared "transwomen" - because it is not about whether transwomen commit crimes or fear and hatred of transwomen, it is about male-bodied people who commit crimes and the need to protect females.
But your focus is not about protecting women, your focus is about protecting the "right" of transwomen (male bodied people) to access female-only spaces.
Why is this your focus? Are you not bothered about protecting women?
And incidentally, the fact that women's protection activists may end up using the same tactics and methods as far-right transphobes, doesn't mean anything other than such tactics are commonly in use by any and all activist groups. I expect climate activists and anti-abortion campaigners may use similar methods, for example.
For that matter I expect Russian spies use similar methods to American spies. So what?