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AIBU?

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To think she’s a CF?

324 replies

tearingmyhearout242 · 18/03/2022 23:39

We are doing a housing association house swap. My house is very desirable. It’s a 15 year old house in a small cul-de-sac in a ‘naice’ village. It has its own closed off driveway, a front and back garden (huge), and we’ve got a huge shed as well. It’s a bit tatty but nothing insane. Also has 2 storage cupboards and an upstairs and downstairs bathroom, as well as a dining room. This is all relevant because when it comes to council house swapping, the other party (who we are swapping with) really has won the jackpot. The only issues are regular kitchen wear and tear (council haven’t done a new kitchen since the house was built, and have refused to help when the cheap materials were literally falling apart) and the odd chip in walls etc from where paintings have been hung up.

We are only moving because DC are now teenagers and their social life and mental health is being ruined here, as it’s miles from anywhere and there is no bus. We’re swapping our house with a town centre end-terrace. We’re sacrificing a lot (front garden, our shed that we funded, our downstairs bathroom and our own driveway) for the location.

Council did an inspection a couple of weeks ago. They said that the kitchen is unfit and they couldn’t approve the swap. I pointed out we’d been begging for new cupboards
for years and the man just shrugged his shoulders. We are desperate for the swap to not fall through and so we offered to do any work ourselves (this will be all of our savings down the shitter) but he said we’re not allowed to. He has said they will probably do the kitchens in our cul-de-sac some point later on in the year or early next year so we just have to wait. We are absolutely gutted. A friend has told us this is wrong and if we sort the kitchen ourselves to a decent standard then they will still approve it. I don’t know what to do.

And in a semi-separate issue, the woman we are swapping with has demanded we do up the entire house on our own dime. She has said she won’t pull out of the swap over the kitchen dilemma and she’s happy to wait but she seems to expect lots in return for that. She wants a new lawn, all walls stripping and painting white, and the pond filling in. Her house (the one we’re moving to) is at the moment an absolute shit-tip. The bathroom is a blue linoleum floor (like you’d see in a hospital bathroom), the doors are hanging off the hinges, wallpaper coming off the walls etc. Don’t make me start on the garden. We just need the location. We’d never make such demands of her.

AIBU to just feel so drained and angry? I want to pull out but the kids are suffering here. It’s been an absolute fucking shitshow. I’ve already dealt with abuse from this woman earlier on in the process because she heard that HS2 potentially could be built nearby and she called me a liar and said I’d deceived her by not mentioning it. I knew nothing about it. She’s acting like she’s buying our house, and she isn’t. It’s a swap, but there’s nothing fair about it.

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SayCheeseBoris · 19/03/2022 14:18

I'd absolutely pull out of this swap. As PPs have said, she'll hound you with every little problem she finds once you swap so your problems won't end as soon as she gives you the keys. She sounds like an absolute nightmare so I'd want to cut all ties. I'd message her and say due to her demands you've decided it's too much work for you to swap her and you'll find somewhere else. Please don't let your anxiety force you to bend to this awful woman. You deserve a nice start in a new home not the fear of her contacting you every time she feels something isn't good enough.

Say no. Don't give in to her!

lonelydad2022 · 19/03/2022 14:22

@ChuckBerrysBoots

I think if you proceed with this swap there is a risk you will always resent the circumstances which may colour your experience of moving into the other property. I’d be tempted to tell her to get to fuck, and hold out for another town centre property.
If your house is so desirable, just wait for the next interested person. That woman sounds like a nightmare. She will know where you live and she will come to your house for every little problem after the swap.
longtompot · 19/03/2022 18:39

I would tell her you'll paint etc when she makes sure her house is up to the same standard.

I don't know how house swaps work, but could you hold out for a little bit longer for another one in a similar area, or is that not likely to happen?
I don't understand why the council say the swap can't go ahead because of your kitchen, but you can't do it yourself and they won't do it until whenever. Are there council house swap advocates that can help you with all this, just so you don't need to deal with this woman again?
I totally understand up your need to be in an area you and your kids have independence. I can't drive and we live 15 mins from most places we need to be, apart from the hospital. Luckily my dh works from home so can be available for those appointments.

tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 21:38

Update for anyone bothered.

I had a meltdown about it today and just told DH to call her bluff if that’s what he wants. I told him to take control.

He text her, explaining we can’t do the house up and was honest about the fact that we’ve saved money to do up our new house, not this one.

She’s replied trying to guilt trip us, saying the move probably can’t go ahead now and she’s just absolutely gutted about it and her daughter is sad because they’ve already made plans for her new bedroom.

We think she’s going to come back.

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tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 21:40

@FairyCakeWings

You’ve made a lot of assumptions here. She has a husband.

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tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 21:43

@LimeSegment She isn’t compromising on location to have our house. She wants the countryside, in fact she specifically joined the home swap-site wanting rural.

The village is a lovely place if you can drive.

She really is winning in every aspect here, that’s why I’m so stunned at her behaviour.

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vipersnest1 · 19/03/2022 21:49

Bin her off, OP. She's trying to take advantage of you.
There will be a better prospect out there if you have some patience.

Gardeningdream · 19/03/2022 21:50

I think the issue with this thread and why folks are saying find someone else is becayse you’ve pretty much positioned it as you’re doing her a favour and taking her shit tip off her hands out of sheer altruism, when in reality this is mutually beneficial and she’s concerned about the state of your home

The council have said no, simply stand your ground that you won’t do anything, if she pulls out she pulls out. You have probably a year before the kitchen is even done, you can look for other swaps in that time.

BoldMove · 19/03/2022 21:52

Hold your nerve OP. She's playing a game. Keep a look out for other properties in the meantime. Sometimes things aren't meant to be and then the right thing pops up unexoectantly.

tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 21:53

@NoSquirrels

Yes I appreciate people are trying to help but I didn’t expect to have to repeatedly justify my want to move.

I want the kids to be near school, and college when they are older. I don’t want them to have to get a moped. We simply cannot afford taxis, it’s £25 to the town one way! I don’t think the people suggesting that understand what it’s like to be on a low income. Some weeks we don’t have £15 to spare. Living in the town will be a much cheaper lifestyle for us. We could potentially even get rid of DH’s car!

I work part-time from home. I want to be able to get a part time retail job or something. This simply isn’t doable here.

I want to be able to nip out to the chemist or the shops whilst DH is at work and not have to wait around for him to come home so I can have a lift.

I love my house and I appreciate the quietness and safety of the area but we are all ready for a change. There’s nothing wrong with that!

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tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 21:56

She actively wants rural though and adores the village.

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tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 22:01

I have tried to learn to drive but can’t. I was in a traumatic car accident as a teenager. I just can’t.

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NoSquirrels · 19/03/2022 22:25

She’s replied trying to guilt trip us, saying the move probably can’t go ahead now and she’s just absolutely gutted about it and her daughter is sad because they’ve already made plans for her new bedroom.

I’d reply “we understand if that’s your decision but if you change your mind we’d be delighted.”

Then get looking for a new swap. Fingers crossed for you it goes ahead. Flowers

TatianaBis · 19/03/2022 22:29

I work part-time from home. I want to be able to get a part time retail job or something. This simply isn’t doable here.

If sometimes you only have £15 spare, wouldn’t a FT job be more sensible than a PT one?

tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 22:38

@TatianaBis

Sorry I’ve not been clear there. I want to keep my current WFH job. I’d also like an evening job or something for the weekends.

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tearingmyhearout242 · 19/03/2022 22:40

My WFH job was always WFH (and was full-time) pre-Covid but after Covid all of the office lot went WFH anyway. Work completely changed their structure and offered people redundancy or part-time. That’s how I ended up part-time.

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Yoloohno · 19/03/2022 22:42

In the nicest possible way why is your kitchen unfit for purpose, we had the cheapest of the cheap put in new for our HA house when we moved in and you are expected things to last donkey’s years. I’ve been complaining about my windows that don’t fit modern standards since 2007.

I’ve tried to swap my incredibly desirable house that a lot of private buyers couldn’t afford for 6 years so I feel your pain.

Hankunamatata · 19/03/2022 22:45

Your house sounds amazing. I would stick it back on the swap site.

LadyPropane · 19/03/2022 22:47

The woman is a nob and she's overplayed her hand. As someone who suffers from anxiety I suggest you make the decision to turn down this swap, rather than leaving the door open for her to come back, and start looking for a new swap. Mentally close the door on it so that it can't cause you anymore stress. I know you are keen to move but you have plenty of time. There is no upcoming deadline. Wait until something great comes along.

Surely there are people out there who are just normal and won't be so manipulative and unpleasant and will just do a swap. Not everyone will cause the amount of stress that this woman has. She isn't worth it. Keep looking.

TatianaBis · 19/03/2022 22:50

Ah I see I’m sorry.

CPL593H · 19/03/2022 22:59

Honestly Op, this woman reminds me of the vendor who wanted £20K for blinds and curtains in a small 2 bed town cottage when we last moved, some years ago. I may have asked the estate agent if unicorn hair was involved in their manufacture.

Seriously though, go back to the drawing board. Her daughter 'being sad about her new bedroom' demonstrates the level she is functioning at, total attempted manipulation. You are in a good position, hold that fact.

Sswhinesthebest · 19/03/2022 23:07

She’ll definitely be back

RandomMess · 19/03/2022 23:08

I'm glad you've called her bluff.

She wants your house but is a through and through CF trying it on.

Thanks
Mooloolabababy · 19/03/2022 23:16

Yep, sounds like she's trying it on op, stick to your guns, don't back down!

amicissimma · 19/03/2022 23:17

She wants your house. Try not to want hers as much as she wants yours! Hold tight and don't let your anxiety rush you into giving in to her unreasonable demands.

A breezy 'What a shame, it sounds as if it's not going to work out. It seems we'll both have to look elsewhere', leaves the door open while sounding as if you're not that desperate for hers and feel as if you have/will soon have other options. My money says she'll be back.

I've no idea about the kitchen issue, though. That sounds weird. Can you double check with someone more senior at the Council, or maybe your local elected Counsillor (elections are coming up in many areas, which might help)?