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Aibu to wonder if Botox and fillers now normal?

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Av0bo55 · 13/03/2022 06:23

I’ve so so many friends that have these now and really do feel I’m the odd one out
Friends all between 30-45 and look amazing! I’ve got to admit I’m very tempted but a bit nervous and also Ttc one last time, so unsure if it’s safe to do if Ttc???
and should I wait! I’m 40 early next year so was thinking about maybe then!
So how many have tried /or already do it? What’s your thoughts? Good?

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TheMoth · 13/03/2022 12:41

I look tired and haggard because of my job. Not much I can do about that though. I also like a drink and I eat chocolate, which I know will screw my face. I am ghost pale and wrinkles show easily, but I'm just going to have to live with it. I just hope dd doesn't get into the whole thing in a few years.

JudyGemstone · 13/03/2022 12:42

I asked on the other thread too - but if anyone can recommend a good practitioner in the south west I’d be very grateful for a pm Smile

Idkiibu · 13/03/2022 12:48

@Gwenhwyfar
You really can’t see the difference between the actual condition of losing sight and fillers?!
If doctors consider this operation, it means risk/benefit analysis speaks in favour of it long term. And yes, if it was purely cosmetical with no added benefits and high risks, I wouldn’t agree to laser eye surgery either.

Getyourarseofffthequattro · 13/03/2022 12:50

[quote Idkiibu]@Gwenhwyfar
You really can’t see the difference between the actual condition of losing sight and fillers?!
If doctors consider this operation, it means risk/benefit analysis speaks in favour of it long term. And yes, if it was purely cosmetical with no added benefits and high risks, I wouldn’t agree to laser eye surgery either.[/quote]
They also consider cosmetic procedures day in, day out. It's nothing to do with risk benefit, it's to do with money.

Idkiibu · 13/03/2022 12:50

@TheMoth
I’ve tried giving up alcohol completely and refined sugars too, and to significantly increase my vegetables intake. It’s magic how it positively affects the skin. It’s not easy though.

LittleGwyneth · 13/03/2022 12:52

I always laugh when people say they want to age gracefully like Helen Mirren or Charlotte Rampling, both of whom have some of the best work in the business.

I love botox and I can't wait to get mine done post baby. Good botox is very hard to detect and looks fantastic. But it's really expensive and once you start you're unlikely to stop. And as PP said, it does make you aware of other 'flaws' so you're probably at risk of wanting more things done and that's where the trouble sets in.

Personally I'd suggest getting a tiny bit of baby botox and seeing how you feel after that. No judgement either way - there's no wrong way to age.

Ihopeyourcakeisshit · 13/03/2022 12:53

@MayorMargeret

Those who say they don't look tired or haggard any more, why are you looking tired and haggard in the first place? Wouldn't that be the first thing to sort out?
Blimey, I think that post has to win naive comment of the day.
LittleGwyneth · 13/03/2022 12:54

@Idkiibu

I don’t think it’s the new normal. I know no one who would subject themselves to operations or injections in order to only look prettier/younger. In my eyes it’s self abuse.
You know self abuse means masturbation?! I think you're casting around for the expression 'self harm'.
Wilkolampshade · 13/03/2022 12:55

I'm 53 and don't know anyone that has. Not mainstream in my direct peer group.

ProfessorScarlett · 13/03/2022 12:59

I love them. I'm always tired and work about 60 hours a week. A bit of botox and fillers make me look better.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/03/2022 13:04

LittleGwyneth

I always laugh when people say they want to age gracefully like Helen Mirren or Charlotte Rampling, both of whom have some of the best work in the business“

I am aging gracefully Grin

Tbh, could never understand the Helen Mirren thing, I think she looks every year of her age, always has. Haven’t seen Charlotte Rampling for ages.

If you’re saying Ms. Mirren has had “work”, it’s not very good really.

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2022 13:12

Blimey, I think that post has to win naive comment of the day.

I think it’s a perfectly valid question and very far from naive. If you’re stressed you look ten years older. Just having a holiday and relaxing for a few days can iron out your face and make you look younger.

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2022 13:14

If you’re saying Ms. Mirren has had “work”, it’s not very good really

I completely agree. If she’s paid for work she should be asking for her money back. She looked every day of her age on Norton a couple of weeks ago. Still lovely but definitely not young.

Gwenhwyfar · 13/03/2022 13:18

"If doctors consider this operation, it means risk/benefit analysis speaks in favour of it long term"

It's only offered privately though isn't it?

"the actual condition of losing sight"

People having eye laser haven't lost their sight. Most of them have conditions that are adequately remedied by glasses or contacts.

"if it was purely cosmetical with no added benefits and high risks, I wouldn’t agree to laser eye surgery either."

Well, this is my point. I wouldn't have eye surgery, but you seem to think they're not comparable. I just don't see people being judged for having unnecessary eye surgery like they are for less risky botox and fillers.

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2022 13:20

I’ve had eye surgery. Because I was going blind, cataracts do that. In no way is it comparable to botox and fillers. It’s an absurd analogy.

HamCob · 13/03/2022 13:22

@Siameasy

Why do people on these threads always say “if it’s done well you can’t tell” yet you get so many rich and famous people looking frankly weird so yes you can bloody tell and no it’s not normal.
Yeah that always makes me smile too. No, we really CAN tell. Those people who tell you they would never have guessed are just being polite! If some of the richest people in the world who use the best treatments available look unnatural and weird, then you can guarantee that mere mortals ain't gonna look great!
LittleGwyneth · 13/03/2022 13:23

@Blossomtoes She doesn't look young, no, but if you compare her to your average woman who isn't far off 80 years old, she looks fantastic.

The idea of cosmetic work isn't to make you forever 25. It's to make you look fantastic for the age that you are, or perhaps a little bit longer. It's slow ageing, not no ageing.

Gwenhwyfar · 13/03/2022 13:23

@Blossomtoes

I’ve had eye surgery. Because I was going blind, cataracts do that. In no way is it comparable to botox and fillers. It’s an absurd analogy.
I was talking about people having laser eye surgery to avoid wearing glasses or contacts. I made that clear.
MrsSkylerWhite · 13/03/2022 13:25

LittleGwyneth

@Blossomtoes She doesn't look young, no, but if you compare her to your average woman who isn't far off 80 years old, she looks fantastic.

The idea of cosmetic work isn't to make you forever 25. It's to make you look fantastic for the age that you are, or perhaps a little bit longer. It's slow ageing, not no ageing.“

My mum is 84, never had anything done, uses whatever face cream is on half price when she runs out. She looks much younger than Helen Mirren.

whumpthereitis · 13/03/2022 13:26

@Blossomtoes

If you’re saying Ms. Mirren has had “work”, it’s not very good really

I completely agree. If she’s paid for work she should be asking for her money back. She looked every day of her age on Norton a couple of weeks ago. Still lovely but definitely not young.

That’s assuming she’s aiming to look younger, as opposed to the best version of herself (as she sees it) at her age.

Personally I’ve never had work to ‘look younger’. I’ve had work to make my face, at whatever age it’s been, look better as I see it.

Whilst I’m sure some people who do it have low self esteem (as some people who don’t do it have low self esteem), it is by no means all. You can boost your self image with filler and Botox, but it doesn’t mean that your self image is dependent on those things. My face was fine without them, if I didn’t have them I would still be carrying on quite happily, but I also like having them. It’s available, I want to do it, and I can afford it, so why not?

Blossomtoes · 13/03/2022 13:28

She doesn't look young, no, but if you compare her to your average woman who isn't far off 80 years old, she looks fantastic

As a result of good styling and make up and because she’s slim. If you compare her to, say, Jane Fonda, it’s obvious she hasn’t had work. Her face moves and she’s got a lot of wrinkles. I know quite a few women in their mid 70s who look equally good.

annlee3817 · 13/03/2022 13:36

I just get a little bit, I don't want to resemble the back of a spoon, but do like minimising the wrinkles a little. I don't spend money on myself really, don't get nails done, hair only done twice a year etc, so it's my one indulgence. Although not at the moment as currently pregnant :) not for everyone, but I love it

georgarina · 13/03/2022 13:39

@HamCob the people who look weird have either had more intensive cosmetic procedures or bad/excessive work.

Well-done Botox is literally just a forehead without wrinkles (for example). You wouldn't be able to tell.

georgarina · 13/03/2022 13:45

@pawpaws2022 Amazing!! Would you mind sharing what strength you use and if you get a prescription?

pawpaws2022 · 13/03/2022 13:47

[quote georgarina]@pawpaws2022 Amazing!! Would you mind sharing what strength you use and if you get a prescription?[/quote]
Skin and me prescription, pic should attach hopefully

Aibu to wonder if Botox and fillers now normal?