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To think Linda Evangelista still looks great?

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newlabelwriter · 06/03/2022 16:00

I've always loved Linda Evangelista and recently read her Instagram posts in which she refers to herself as 'disformed' and I'd really expected her to look completely different. I've just seen some photos of her taken recently and she still looks amazing, she's 56 and whilst not quite the supermodel she once was she's still a really beautiful woman. And whiIe I know if must be different for her as her face was literally her fortune and I'm in no way trying to imply that what she's been through and continues to got through isn't really traumatic for her but more that it's a really sad state of affairs when a woman feels so unattractive and unhappy when she starts to look her age.

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TatianaBis · 07/03/2022 14:22

@Infinitemoon

I get that and it is terrible what has happened to her, but bad things happen to people all the time. They have a stroke in their 20s, or go blind, have an accident that causes paralysis. What is so special about LE? We put so much worth and importance on someone who literally did well from luck. She now has had some terrible luck. I think she should try to focus on the good things she has and maybe help people not to have some of these invasive procedures.
Well the effects of the procedure have cost her her livelihood just the same as if she'd lost a limb.
Clarabe1 · 07/03/2022 14:37

@5128gap that’s the kicker though isn’t it? Getting a skillful natural result. It’s a gamble. The surgeon might be the best in the world but there are so many variables and things that can go wrong. You might know some women who have messed with nature and look great but there are many more who just look strange at best or are truly deformed or have nerve damage at worst.. LE has the money and resources to book the best and it still went wrong. You are gambling with your face and body trying to fight a battle you will ultimately lose. Cool sculpting is a waste of time anyway. The fat will just come back. A face lift is a waste of time because you carry on aging, hence why so many celebrities have repeated ones and end up with their arse as their hairline. Sorry I stand by what I say, nature will win. It’s shit but true!

BusterGonad · 07/03/2022 15:18

@IcedPurple

I cannot believe that people are still banging on about her just 'getting old'. She's not just got old, she had a procedure that went incredibly wrong. Can no one understand this???

I do understand it, but all procedures have risks. What happened to her is a rare, but known, side effect of Coolsculpting. She will very likely have signed a waiver prior to having the procedure done. I do feel sorry for her, but no more so than for anyone else unlucky enough to have a cosmetic procedure go badly wrong.

She has the face and body of a supermodel so even if she did just get old she'd look amazing.

But she obviously didn't have the 'body of a supermodel' or she wouldn't have had Coolsculpting done.

Have you seen the before photo? She was getting non invasive work, maybe her jaw was slightly slacker than in her 20s? Maybe she had a catwalk show booked up, maybe it was preventative work. She still had plenty of potential work in her.
IcedPurple · 07/03/2022 16:03

Have you seen the before photo? She was getting non invasive work, maybe her jaw was slightly slacker than in her 20s? Maybe she had a catwalk show booked up, maybe it was preventative work. She still had plenty of potential work in her.

Coolsculpting isn't 'preventative work'.

She'd gained quite a bit of weight in her 40s, which is perfectly fine and normal, but not, of course, if you want to be a model. She would not have subjected herself to a risky procedure like Coolsculpting if she had the 'body of a supermodel'.

peaceanddove · 07/03/2022 17:20

There are very few truly beautiful women. Doesn't matter what age they are. A truly beautiful 45 year old (like Linda Evangelista) is always going to totally eclipse your average looking 25 or 30 year old.

Being young rarely equates to being stunningly beautiful. We value beauty so much precisely because it is so rare.

Such a shame that LE couldn't be content with being the most beautiful 45 year old looking woman in any room. She wanted to be the most beautiful 25 year old looking woman in the room - and that just isn't possible.

5128gap · 07/03/2022 19:21

[quote Clarabe1]@5128gap that’s the kicker though isn’t it? Getting a skillful natural result. It’s a gamble. The surgeon might be the best in the world but there are so many variables and things that can go wrong. You might know some women who have messed with nature and look great but there are many more who just look strange at best or are truly deformed or have nerve damage at worst.. LE has the money and resources to book the best and it still went wrong. You are gambling with your face and body trying to fight a battle you will ultimately lose. Cool sculpting is a waste of time anyway. The fat will just come back. A face lift is a waste of time because you carry on aging, hence why so many celebrities have repeated ones and end up with their arse as their hairline. Sorry I stand by what I say, nature will win. It’s shit but true![/quote]
Nature will win of course, but until aging beauty is worshipped in the same way as youth (which would be...never?) women will continue to want to hold the line. At the age of 50 most of us have around half of our adult life still ahead of us. Yet the prevailing narrative is that even the most beautiful of us are past it by then. Many women of 50+ still want to be perceived as attractive and vital and visible. Former super models may still want to work. Yet a youth worshipping society sends the message we are old and plain and ugly even, and should step into the shadows to make way for younger women. If a face lift buys a woman another decade of relevance and visibility, I can quite understand why she would opt for it, despite the risks.

whumpthereitis · 07/03/2022 19:32

@peaceanddove

There are very few truly beautiful women. Doesn't matter what age they are. A truly beautiful 45 year old (like Linda Evangelista) is always going to totally eclipse your average looking 25 or 30 year old.

Being young rarely equates to being stunningly beautiful. We value beauty so much precisely because it is so rare.

Such a shame that LE couldn't be content with being the most beautiful 45 year old looking woman in any room. She wanted to be the most beautiful 25 year old looking woman in the room - and that just isn't possible.

I think it’s more likely she wanted to keep up with her peers, and continue working (as they are).
MiniCooper15 · 08/03/2022 12:59

@CounsellorTroi

I think Linda Evangelista looks great. She looks a lot better than Marie Helvin.
Isn't Marie Helvin around 20yrs older?
MiniCooper15 · 08/03/2022 13:04

@samthebordercollie

Christy Turlington is possibly the eighties supermodel who has aged the best, without the tons of work that Cindy Crawford has had done.
Nope it's Naomi Campbell checkout this months vogue she's on the cover
StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 08/03/2022 13:08

Naomi Campbell needs to calm down with the cheek fillers. At one point they looked like golf balls.

MiniCooper15 · 08/03/2022 13:10

@GiantHaystacks2021

She looks a bit bloated to be honest. I agree that ageing must be very, very hard when you were very beautiful and younger.

Oh, Christy Turlington has work done, it appears. She looks like she has filler in her lips which gives her the third lip look. Also looks like she has some subtle fillers and botox.

Cindy Crawford fucked with her face, looks like she had surgery around her eyes in particular. Her eyes were hooded but instead she has a squint now. Her eyes are wonky now. And more than a touch of the Marie Osmonds around the eyes.

Helena Christensen looks like she has fillers.
Carla Bruni went hard at the fillers a few years ago.

Kate Moss appears to have had a facelift recently.
Naomi Campbell looks like she has had a lot of fillers, she wears loads of wigs and looks like she has lost a lot of her hair.
Her nose looks a lot different today compared to before. She looks like she had her nose rebuilt. Her nostrils look different now.

I'm pretty sure they all look better than you Judgy pants!
Ganymedemoon · 08/03/2022 13:14

@BOOTS52

Yes still a beautiful woman but it is sad that we live in a world where women are so judged and usually by men who do not seem to be judged in the same way at all. I think she needs to work on her inner peace and happiness as she always looks miserable now. So many get surgery or too much fillers etc and just look weird and not younger just that blank stare look.
I think women do a pretty good job of judging each other too sadly as is very evident from some comments on this thread!
CounsellorTroi · 08/03/2022 13:39

*CounsellorTroi
I think Linda Evangelista looks great. She looks a lot better than Marie Helvin.

Isn't Marie Helvin around 20yrs older?*

13 years older. Quite a lot I suppose.

BlueBlancmange · 27/03/2022 02:04

[quote IcedPurple]@GiantHaystacks2021 I think a lot of celebrities only consider 'work' to be 'work' when a scalpel and general anesthetic is involved but these days, most 'procedures' are much less invasive.

I do agree that Turlington has had botox and fillers at the very least. Which is absolutely fine, but I don't think it's true to suggest that she's completely au naturel. Very few famous women over the age of 40 or so are.[/quote]
I have looked at photos of Christy Turlington when she was first starting out and I wonder if she had some work done back then. It looks like, as well as filler in her top lip, she had some very subtle work done to her jaw and chin to give her the extremely refined, almost other-worldly bone structure she is renowned for. She looks extremely beautiful in the early pictures, but her jaw and chin area does look slightly heavier and more 'normal'.

NannyKrampus · 27/03/2022 03:34

Always felt a bit conflicted about Linda Evangelista. I think some of her mega success owed quite a bit to her shacking up with and marrying Gérald Marie. Out of the top models, she was the least beautiful and relied heavily on good angles and posing. While I appreciate that she did openly support the women who accused her ex of rape and sexual assault, for a long time she ignored the abuse in the industry perpetrated by her then partner and his cronies and looked after number one. Part of me feels sorry for her treatments going wrong but on the other hand, those are side effects and it’s not like she suffered from a debilitating and tragic condition but it is somewhat self-inflicted. And while probably uncomfortable if she got chub rub, it is still mild compared to what many people suffer from without a choice without vanity procedures. A lot of people have to come to terms with aging, so kinda tough shit but not something that merits a lot of sympathy.

ErinD · 03/09/2022 05:55

I recall reading in a magazine when she was young and popular that she and other models were reportedly sitting around, exchanging laughs about how average or overweight women looked trying to carry off the fashions. Karma has a way of biting you in the hiney. Welcome to average. And it's laughable that she's supposedly no longer hiding when even in her photo shoots she's doing things like lying on her back to make gravity try to smooth out all of that baggy skin. And she's still hiding the turkey gobble neck (that many of us women have at midlife and deal with) behind scarves and high-collared tops. So disfiguring to look like a normal woman, I guess. The cat-tilted eyes were stunning in the past, but I never liked her nose with those big nostrils. I know many people thought it was beautiful, though. Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. She'll still be attractive to certain people unless all of that slinking around and displaying her poor self-image ruins it completely for her.

ErinD · 03/09/2022 06:05

I actually never thought she looked "great." It was the nose I didn't like--all nostrilly and sort of gave her a sneering expression. But her eyes were quite rare. Just not one of my favorite supermodels. Neither was Kate Moss. Eyes too far apart and just not pretty imo. But Brooke Shields? Now that's beauty to me. And I love that she prioritized fitness even if it built muscles that didn't fit into a size 4 Chanel little black dress. She has substance, too, whereas I recall reading an old magazine that described LE and her fellow models sitting around, laughing about how other non-supermodels looked in trying to carry off the latest fashions. You don't forget things like that, and it was an immediate turnoff. Inner ugliness ruins an otherwise outwardly beautiful person, imo.

ErinD · 03/09/2022 06:12

Wow, just seven years ago was quite a difference. I wish there were a photo of what she looked like right before the CoolSculpting. Maybe it was really mild stuff that normal people would consider simply signs of aging. It's unfortunate she has jowls now and is obviously this uncomfortable. I wish she'd try harder with her hair and other things to help her feel better, but it seems she really is just wanting to disappear and not be noticed. Ugh, what's expected of women and then what women put themselves through is all very sad. And Internet selfies and Photoshopping just make things a zillion times worse. But LE was quite insecure for this to have destroyed her so much. She apparently hasn't developed her inner self as much as the outer. I hope she finds a way to turn this around and come out as something greater than another pretty face. A comeback as a strong woman would be nice.

5128gap · 03/09/2022 08:54

@ErinD You have just written three posts criticising women in minute detail, making derogatory observations about their faces, bodies and how they present themselves in photographs they are paid for ( and therefore under direction) Their appearance didn't pass your very high bar when they were young, and you appear to despise the signs of their age. Do you not see the irony that you then go on to complain about 'what's expected of women'?

Sunnysideup999 · 03/09/2022 09:22

fix the inside , not the outside.

sadly no one told her this .

she will always ‘feel’ deformed - rather than older. Shame.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 03/09/2022 10:01

5128gap · 03/09/2022 08:54

@ErinD You have just written three posts criticising women in minute detail, making derogatory observations about their faces, bodies and how they present themselves in photographs they are paid for ( and therefore under direction) Their appearance didn't pass your very high bar when they were young, and you appear to despise the signs of their age. Do you not see the irony that you then go on to complain about 'what's expected of women'?

Yes quite!! 🙄 nasty post!

MistyRock · 03/09/2022 16:42

@ErinD are you on crack. Lol. How many posts in a row do you need to do. 😂

ErinD · 03/09/2022 18:07

5128gap · 03/09/2022 08:54

@ErinD You have just written three posts criticising women in minute detail, making derogatory observations about their faces, bodies and how they present themselves in photographs they are paid for ( and therefore under direction) Their appearance didn't pass your very high bar when they were young, and you appear to despise the signs of their age. Do you not see the irony that you then go on to complain about 'what's expected of women'?

I say what I want. Deal or scroll on by.

ErinD · 03/09/2022 18:09

MistyRock · 03/09/2022 16:42

@ErinD are you on crack. Lol. How many posts in a row do you need to do. 😂

Nope, never seen it or done it, but I guess you're familiar with it, huh? As many posts in a row as I want, sweetie. You don't control me or anybody else. Scroll on by if you're triggered. 😁

MistyRock · 03/09/2022 18:13

Triggered. Lol. What a knob.