Mandela Effect

[GrandTheftWalrus]

Just been reading up on this and it's fascinating.

One of mine is the monopoly man not having a monocle, I could've swore he did.

Anyone else have any good ones?

@ReeseWitherfork

Just listened to We Are The Champions on Spotify and it ends on the word "champions". No "of the world". But the Live Aid version adds it at the end.

This. He added "of the world" because it made sense, for the occasion.

But the album track ends with a wonderful uncertainty, as if the refrain will carry in forever, self congratulatory and sheer Freddie.

Yes I always thought there were 52 states .

Also in the poster of Uncle Sam , his hat is blue and white! Not red and white , everyone thinks it’s red and white for some reason.

My personal one and for many others I spoke to about is from Don McLeans American pie song,
"The Lennon/lenin read a book on Marx."

It’s A quartet practiced in the park , not The quartet practised in the park , so it changes the whole interpretation of this line , he is not actually talking about the Beatles

@SickAndTiredAgain

I definitely saw the second plane fly in live. I was watching it on TV with my Mum and we were looking at the smoke coming out of the first tower then saw the plane crash into the second one. Definitely didn't imagine it! It was live on the news.

I think the Mandela effect with 9/11 is actually to do with the first plane, not the second. Lots of people swear they remember seeing it hit the tower on the day, but there was no footage of it available then - which makes sense given it was 2001 so people couldn’t tweet it etc, and no reason for news stations to have cameras pointing at it. So the news didn’t get footage until later - by coincidence there were a handful of people filming anyway and caught it. But lots of people are sure they remember it.

There was footage of the second plane because of course by then there were lots of news cameras pointing at it.

There's a fascinating study in America where every year the same 1000 Americans are asked for their memories of 9/11. The memories are changing over time to fit in with public perception of what people think happened, like the second plane example. Memory is very very fickle and cannot be trusted over time.

The laughing cow now has cheese triangles in its ears rather than earrings

I thought I remembered the 2nd plane flying in live too. To be honest, I remember awful scenes on the day of people leaping from one of the towers to their death, as it was live, and I thought that the news channels had censored that and the second tower being hit from future viewings, for good reason.

I also thought new zealand moved in relation to Australis when i looked at a map a couple of weeks ago

The 52 states one is so odd

I’m sure I remember being corrected when I was a child re 50 as two had been added

How are so many thinking this?

@OhWhyNot

Mine is a sad one. I remembered watching the tragedy of Hillsborough unfold

But I am not a football fan and no one is my household was a Liverpool or Nottingham Forrest supporter more likely the racing was on and interrupted by the news and we then watched it

But in my memory I am watching the match and can see players looking into the crowd and we are discussing it at home saying something seems wrong. I think this is quite a common experience

Also the same with seeing the second plane fly into the Twin Towers. Few of us would have seen this live as it happened but so many are absolutely sure they did

Absolutely with Hillsbourgh. My Dad was very much a racing man and it was always on in our house, though he liked football so could have had the game on too, even if it wasn’t his team playing. Anyway I remember walking downstairs, we had open plan stairs that came into the lounge, I remember standing next to my dad and the players watching the crowds. The images I have in my head of that day aren’t available anywhere, but I’m guessing that’s because of all the coverup and media (The Sun) shit show that happened afterwards.

tothesea

How odd, did you mention the desert? Or did I misread? You just mentioned the sofa and the light, that's in the credits.

AliceMcK

Unless you were watching Irish TV, the match wasn't on live, it was being recorded for Match of the day but was being shown live on an Irish TV channel.

But then that could be another false memory or indeed the Mandela effect?

@tothesea

I can remember the first series of Friends had different opening credits but there is nothing on-line about it and no-one else remembers it. It ended with them sitting on a sofa with their backs to the camera and one of them turned the lamp off but they were outside. Weird.

I remember this but I didn’t start watching friends until years after it came out. I think I remember this from a rerun or possibly a documentary or something else relating to the show. It may even have been a music video. I lived overseas for years where friends was constantly replayed over and over so it may have been there I saw it but I definitely remember seeing it somewhere.

@DoorWasAJar

Looney Tunes was Looney Toons, for me as a child. I know for a fact Febreeze was spelled like this and not Febreze

Just don’t know why.

Both of those are answered by psychology. The brain automatically 'fills in the gaps' so to speak and corrects extra words, fills in omissions, fixes spelling and grammar. Both of your example make sense, because you were watching 'toons and 'breeze' is the correct spelling.

A lot of Mandela effect instances are examples of this

Exactly @NippyWoowoo
It makes me laugh that we need a special name for this, but I reckon the Mandela Affect sounds much more exotic and interesting than simply just admitting that memory is fallible.

@tothesea

I can remember the first series of Friends had different opening credits but there is nothing on-line about it and no-one else remembers it. It ended with them sitting on a sofa with their backs to the camera and one of them turned the lamp off but they were outside. Weird.

It's literally the first thing that came up on YouTube

I was also in the parallel universe where it was Sex In The City and An Interview with A Vampire. Wonder how I got here?

Oh the link doesn't work but it's this one

@Soul11Soul

I was also in the parallel universe where it was Sex In The City and An Interview with A Vampire. Wonder how I got here?

I can see that happening because when each of the original titles are said out loud, they can sound just like you remember them, especially Interview with A Vampire.

@NippyWoowoo

Oh the link doesn't work but it's this one

I read your update about the desert definitely don't remember that one 🐪

So I think I'm too young to be able to have thought that Mandela died in prison, but what was the gap between you thinking he died and him becoming president? He was released in 1990 and became president in 1994. Was it some time in the 80s that people remember there reports? Must have been a shock when he was named president!

But some of them I can't. For instance - Australia is now in the wrong place. I was completely astounded to see Australia is now positioned so that New Zealand is at 4 o'clock, not 2 o'clock. This doesn't even make sense, because it makes New Zealand the true 'Land Down Under'.

Yes this was a shock to me too, but I just put it down to my own stupidity. That and the fact that I also learned at the same time (from my friend from NZ) that NZ is actually 2 large islands, not one

Mine involves football teams and their shirts, especially during events. I always thought in the past their shirts didn't have their names on and were always labelled 1-11 and their numbers referred to their position (eg goalie, left back, midfield etc) rather than their names. My husband didn't know what I was on about when I said it to him though. I think I asked him when they stopped this and he's like this fella ---->

That’s not the Mandela Effect though spidey, that’s just you not understanding how it worked. The Mandela Effect is when lots of people ‘remember’ something that never happened.

@Spidey66

Mine involves football teams and their shirts, especially during events. I always thought in the past their shirts didn't have their names on and were always labelled 1-11 and their numbers referred to their position (eg goalie, left back, midfield etc) rather than their names. My husband didn't know what I was on about when I said it to him though. I think I asked him when they stopped this and he's like this fella ---->

But they do. I coach youth teams and they don't have names on the back, just numbers. And each does refer to a position. 1 is goalie, 2 is right back, 3 is left back, 4 is centre back etc.

@Spidey66

Mine involves football teams and their shirts, especially during events. I always thought in the past their shirts didn't have their names on and were always labelled 1-11 and their numbers referred to their position (eg goalie, left back, midfield etc) rather than their names. My husband didn't know what I was on about when I said it to him though. I think I asked him when they stopped this and he's like this fella ---->

That is correct though - that is how it used to work. No names on shirts and the starting 11 players were numbered 1 to 11 based on positions - no squad numbers as there are now. Not sure when it changed though (1980s/90s maybe), probably related to shirt sales as much easier to sell now with a name and set number for your fave player.

Your fella is wrong on this one

But that's how I remembered it happened with players having 1-11 on their shirts and no names!
Then during big events like the World Cup Gazza for instance would alway play no 17 or something and would always be no 17. Gazza would be no 17 rather than his number representing his position on the field.

Anyway getting back to Hillsborough, it was shown live on RTE. Looking at it now, it's tragic.

Oh I'm glad to be proved right on the footballers numbers and shirts! I was certain the numbers were related to position!