Mandela Effect

[GrandTheftWalrus]

Just been reading up on this and it's fascinating.

One of mine is the monopoly man not having a monocle, I could've swore he did.

Anyone else have any good ones?

[quote PinkButtercups]@VelvetChairGirl why are you being so rude and so defensive over a pack of bloody golden wonders cheese and onion. Also, walkers cheese and onion are top tier.[/quote]
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I used to obsessively watch the oops I did it again video by britney when it came out and she never had a head set. She usually had those headsets in live performances and often wore catsuits (maybe even the same red one as the video) so I think people just picture her that way. Also the official doll / barbie always had the headset with each costume.

@tothesea

I can remember the first series of Friends had different opening credits but there is nothing on-line about it and no-one else remembers it. It ended with them sitting on a sofa with their backs to the camera and one of them turned the lamp off but they were outside. Weird.

Could this have been one of the “Chums” bits on SMTV with Ant Dec and Cat?

People who thought Mandela died in prison - do you have a memory of an alternative SA leader for that period or just a gap?

@Vanellopee

I find these interesting, but none of the common examples resonate with me.

Same here

@ButtercupOfFlorin

Queen most definitely sing ‘of the world’ in We Are The Champions - very easy to have checked this!

We’re talking about the final line of the song.

@Fridafever

People who thought Mandela died in prison - do you have a memory of an alternative SA leader for that period or just a gap?

That's what I was wondering. Or did they think he was dead until he got released?

I definitely saw the second plane fly in live. I was watching it on TV with my Mum and we were looking at the smoke coming out of the first tower then saw the plane crash into the second one. Definitely didn't imagine it! It was live on the news.

I think the Mandela effect with 9/11 is actually to do with the first plane, not the second. Lots of people swear they remember seeing it hit the tower on the day, but there was no footage of it available then - which makes sense given it was 2001 so people couldn’t tweet it etc, and no reason for news stations to have cameras pointing at it. So the news didn’t get footage until later - by coincidence there were a handful of people filming anyway and caught it. But lots of people are sure they remember it.

There was footage of the second plane because of course by then there were lots of news cameras pointing at it.

@OhWhyNot

Mine is a sad one. I remembered watching the tragedy of Hillsborough unfold

But I am not a football fan and no one is my household was a Liverpool or Nottingham Forrest supporter more likely the racing was on and interrupted by the news and we then watched it

But in my memory I am watching the match and can see players looking into the crowd and we are discussing it at home saying something seems wrong. I think this is quite a common experience

Also the same with seeing the second plane fly into the Twin Towers. Few of us would have seen this live as it happened but so many are absolutely sure they did

I think these are such common false 'memories'.

I was in the kitchen with the radio on and there was an announcement that there had been a pitch invasion, then back to the music, then it was something more serious, that's when I, and probably half the country put the TV on.

BUT the games was being recorded to be shown later so the news and other programs showed the start of the trouble, the game being stopped and the unfolding horror.

So, you, like most of us able to understand at the time did see both the live pictures and the news coverage and they have blended.

With the twin towers, I think I saw the second plane hit, watching live TV and seeing the towers collapse, but again I don't know if I did see the plane hit or if the news footage which put things in chronological order.

I'm half convinced I saw the first plane hit because of the footage but no one was filming at that time, it's only by accident there is any footage at all.

I can remember the first series of Friends had different opening credits but there is nothing on-line about it and no-one else remembers it. It ended with them sitting on a sofa with their backs to the camera and one of them turned the lamp off but they were outside. Weird.

It's the end credits

It was recreated in Ghosts

@Fridafever

People who thought Mandela died in prison - do you have a memory of an alternative SA leader for that period or just a gap?

I was at university when I could swear Mandela had died so not really aware of foreign leaders in any way so never really had any thoughts on who the SA leader was or was not.

Besides, in my world, he died before he became leader so there wouldn't have been a gap.

@WestendVBroadway Hawaii Five O - omg!!! Mind blown...🤯

[quote PinkButtercups]@VelvetChairGirl why are you being so rude and so defensive over a pack of bloody golden wonders cheese and onion. Also, walkers cheese and onion are top tier.[/quote]
I am being me if you think I am rude thats your problem

I have a few Mandela effects, and yes, some I could put down to misremembering.

But some of them I can't. For instance - Australia is now in the wrong place. I was completely astounded to see Australia is now positioned so that New Zealand is at 4 o'clock, not 2 o'clock. This doesn't even make sense, because it makes New Zealand the true 'Land Down Under'.

And Australia used to be miles from any other land except Tasmania. Now there's loads of islands close to it at the top.

This isn't just that I didn't know where Australia and New Zealand were - I'd grown up with a very clear picture of them, thanks to school maps, geography etc. When I found out, I ran to check my globe - and I swear it had changed! I'd have noticed if Australia had been in the wrong place before!

Asking other people where on the clock New Zealand is in relation to Australia, my experience has been that amongst people around my age (mid-late50s) there's an even split between 2 o'clock and 4 o'clock. Around my son's age (20) it is all 4 o'clock.

My head hurts after reading all of these!

@Fridafever

People who thought Mandela died in prison - do you have a memory of an alternative SA leader for that period or just a gap?

He wasn't the leader of SA when he was in prison.

Also, St John's Ambulance actually being called St John Ambulance troubles me

When people were referring to Covid research coming out if the USA (which has had 50 states since 1959), they kept referring to "John Hopkins University". It's Johns Hopkins University.

St John ambulance is a descendant of the Sovereign Military and Hospitaller Order of St John of Jerusalem, of Rhodes and of Malta (Knights Hospitaller), one of the military monastic orders founded during the crusades. This is why the cross of St John is referred to as a Maltese cross. It's an ambulance service operated by the Order of St John (St John Ambulance), rather than an ambulance belonging to St John (St John's Ambulance).

He wasn't the leader of SA when he was in prison.

But the people who think he died in prison presumably think he was dead throughout the 5 years he was president of South Africa.

@MrsPelligrinoPetrichor

Cheese and onion crisps were in a green packet I swear....apparently they weren't.

They always were until Walkers flipped the colours.

@FatOaf

He wasn't the leader of SA when he was in prison.

But the people who think he died in prison presumably think he was dead throughout the 5 years he was president of South Africa.

Not necessarily. I presume people think he died in prison and were surprised when he was released.

C3PO has a silver right lower leg when most of us think he was all gold!

Like others, I saw some of Mandelas funeral on TV as a kid. I remember thousands of people turning out, lots of bright coloured clothing, a huge procession. Even my DM telling me who he was in life etc...I even remember these railings around a building with people standing on.

Except apparently that didn't happen according to the rest of the world.

Mine are that I could’ve honestly sworn the cartoons ‘Looney Tunes’ were ‘Looney Toons’ as I remember thinking as a child, the ‘toons were shorts for cartoons. I can even see it written ‘toons in my mind.

@Mollysocks

Mine are that I could’ve honestly sworn the cartoons ‘Looney Tunes’ were ‘Looney Toons’ as I remember thinking as a child, the ‘toons were shorts for cartoons. I can even see it written ‘toons in my mind.

Yes this!

sashh and others I’m not talking about the credits that everyone knows. I’m talking about different opening credits. All I can remember is that they were outside but in a desert type setting rather than the fountain. I guess it doesn’t count as a Mandela effect as no one else remembers it. But I could swear on it. I remember noticing when it changed.

@tothesea

sashh and others I’m not talking about the credits that everyone knows. I’m talking about different opening credits. All I can remember is that they were outside but in a desert type setting rather than the fountain. I guess it doesn’t count as a Mandela effect as no one else remembers it. But I could swear on it. I remember noticing when it changed.

But it was set in New York, why would they be in a desert? I'd love to see the version you remember!