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To say I don't want to sit with them again?

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Patienceisntvirtuous · 27/02/2022 03:51

My partner who I met just before lockdown moved back in with her parents not long after we met. In order to save money.
I wasn't too bothered about this, her choice.

We're quite long distance.

I've visited her there a few of times. There's a few reasons I am not particularly happy doing this, which I didn't foresee unfortunately. She sleeps in very late, for instance and I don't usually. If she had her own place still I'd probably go for a potter about in the house, watch TV, make myself a cuppa etc but I don't feel this would be right in her parent's. I also feel I am a tad old (41!) to be cooped up in someone's bedroom like a teenager, but, I said it was fine when she said she may move back in with them and It's her choice isn't it.

Anyway, last time I were there, we went out for the day, watched a film in her bedroom and she suggested going downstairs to have a drink with her Mum and Dad. Her mum goes to bed quite early, and after this her Dad began laying into me about my car,(raised voice, targetting me) saying It's scruffy, It's old, It's this It's that, I should clean it up, It's full of takeaway wrappers NOT true, I NEVER eat takeaways so I think he must have made that bit up-anyway I don't think the subject matter is much relevant. I am happy with my car, I am not much into cars, and as long as It's reliable and does its job I have no desire to upgrade it.

I kept stoic, and said to him I wasn't going to upgrade my car on the back of the conversation, I will have whatever car I like, and thanked him for his concern (to which he shouted 'I'm not concerned!!!!') BUT he was really rather nasty and the conversation/tirade of berating of me went on for some ten minutes. In the end he called me a slob.

She did stick up for me at various points, agreeing that I didnt have any takeaway wrappers in my car, and some other point she made which I forget. And she sent me a msg mid-conv apologising.

AIBU to say I don't want to have a drink with him again? Or sit with him for any reason? If nothing else, being like that with a guest, I would say signals that they don't really want me there! It is very bad manners too?

Plus, what has my car got to do with him?

I know I'd have left some details out as I am thinking about this in the middle of the night and I am half asleep-apologies in advance!

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FinallyHere · 27/02/2022 09:31

@Patienceisntvirtuous

I have a feeling that if I say to her 'I am not going to come and stay after your Dad was horrible' I'll sound pathetic? And it might cause a big argument?
What kind of partner would treat you so badly and not have your back? Why would you visit again in those circumstances ?

If they want the cost saving of living at home, why don't they visit you instead ?

HazelBite · 27/02/2022 09:35

As someone who has adult DS plus wife living with us I would make the following comments.
Her father probably didn't want you sitting with him/them so was rude (unacceptedly so) to get you both to give him some space.
You really don't know the dymamic of the relationship between the three of them when you are not there.
Her parents probably don't want her living there, she wants to cook.wash her clothes when it is inconvenient for her parents and the way they like to run their house/live their lives, add to that the tip toeing around because she likes to sleep in.
They have probably had enough. Her Mum does her washing/cooks for her as its more convenient for Mum to do it rather having her DD using the kitchen when she is trying to get on with things..
Your girlfriend needs to move out and everyone will get along fine!

ManicPixie · 27/02/2022 09:38

At that age I wouldn’t want to be with someone who still lived with their parents, it would feel too ridiculous. Is she going to get her own place anytime soon?

MrsMiddleMother · 27/02/2022 09:41

When I first met my husband I was living back home and we would get a hotel while it was long distance, mainly for privacy reasons! I can't see this relationship being compatible and if I was you I'd get out. You're too old to be holed up in her room and her sleeping in all morning when you don't see each other very regular is honestly rude. And remember, if you become very serious her father will be your father-in-law and then your stuck with him and he'll be rude to you in your own home.

AllOfUsAreDead · 27/02/2022 09:42

I think you should dump her.

She's 45, living with her parents again. That's not the bad thing, the bad thing is that she let's her mum do everything for her, laundry, ironing, food etc. There's no reason for it other than laziness. She could easily do it herself. Saying her mum likes doing it and she tells her not to is a cop out.

She may act all house proud around you, but do remember you're at the beginning of a relationship. Of course she isn't going to act totally like a slob around you, other than the drastic amount of sleep she 'needs'.

Ever find out why her and her ex broke up? I'd imagine it is something to do with her laziness in reality.

Plus she didn't really stand up for you against her dad. Made a few comments, but didn't tell him to shut up. She should have done more.

You'll make a big mistake most likely having her move in with you. Could be wrong, but she's got every warning sign a lazy man has. Having a uterus doesn't make her immune to laziness.

Staryflight445 · 27/02/2022 09:54

I wouldn’t go again, they all sound a bit odd.

If you’re female too it speaks volumes of how her dad spoke to you.

SpiderVersed · 27/02/2022 10:03

She’s living like a teenager.

Her father clearly has a problem with your relationship.

You’re an adult. You deserve an adult relationship, not shagging quietly so her parents don’t hear and being trapped in a room until she bothers to wake up.

I can’t see a future for this relationship.

FinallyHere · 27/02/2022 10:09

The part that puzzles me is why, when you are being treated so badly by the parents, and, by extension, and your partner, it is you are are tip toeing around worried about what your partner will say.

The point about a partner is to enhance your life, not make you anxious about being treated decently.

Good luck.

Bootothegoose · 27/02/2022 10:14

Well he sounds a lovely guy…

Can I ask are you male or female OP?

If the latter I imagine there’s a misogynist element to it. Either way he’s a test and should be avoided at all costs.

Move visits to your place or see gf in public for a while. Dates, meals, walks etc.

Getoff · 27/02/2022 10:17

@Patienceisntvirtuous

Yes she can come to mine. I guess I'd just feel it was a bit unfair her doing all of the driving, all of the time apart from her familiarities, friends etc...
Doing the driving should be regarded as part of the price to pay for living with parents.
LowlandLucky · 27/02/2022 10:18

Time for a new Girlfriend i think, she sounds like a teenager

MrsWinters · 27/02/2022 10:27

It seems to be a really common theme of in-laws being rude and other halves not standing up for partners.
My in-laws are incredibly rude to me, and my other half won’t call them on it, the upshot is they are not welcome in our house anymore. I’d urge you to talk to her before it gets to that stage, and have her visit you from now on.

Sswhinesthebest · 27/02/2022 10:31

The op has never said she’s female. I think a poster assumed it early on.

MushroomCat · 27/02/2022 10:34

I'd refuse to go over, if she wants to see you she can come to yours surely with your own privacy?
Nobody should be living with their parents in their 40s.

MushroomCat · 27/02/2022 10:37

Also the sleep thing... sleeping in till 3pm and then saying morning? She's slept the whole day away unless she has a medical reason like CFS or something there's no excuse. It is very immature and I don't think I could be in a relationship with someone who has no "go" in life.

Rainbowshine · 27/02/2022 10:39

I think you’d end up with the female equivalent of a cock lodger if she starts visiting you at your house, before long she’d be staying over during the week not just the weekend, etc etc. she shows little money management and total obliviousness towards your needs - the sleeping is just selfish. She’s buttering you up ready to use you to move out of her parents and then you’ll have this selfish lazy person in your life 24/7.

I would end it. You don’t have to explain why. If you did, I would say you’re clearly incompatible. Don’t get dragged into a long involved conversation.

Good luck op and please put your needs higher up than you’re doing at the moment. You are a soft target for users like this, sorry to say. You need to be more discerning and assert yourself more.

zingally · 27/02/2022 10:39

If she's 45, her parents must be pretty elderly, surely? Mid-late 70s?

OP, you are not wrong in any of what you've said, but consider things from her parents point of view. Middle-aged daughter moves in at roughly the start of lockdown, so nearly 2 years ago, and is STILL there. And whether your DP encouraged/expected it or not, her mum has taken on all the "care" of her, like she was 12 years old again. That's not reasonable, or normal behaviour. I'm sure your DP doesn't mean to be taking advantage of her elderly parents, but by even LETTING her mum clean for her, and do her laundry, she IS taking advantage.

And NOW she's got this random boyfriend/girlfriend(?) staying over pretty regularly? Basically, in the parents minds, another kid?

Dad was really rude, obviously, but I'm guessing he lost his cool and flipped. The parents are in their twilight years, they want to do their own thing, drink what they want, sit where they want... but instead they're having to play host to middle-aged life-in child's partner?

OP, you either need to move your get-togethers to your house, severely limit trips to your partners, or get rid of this 45-year-old child.

Auntycorruption · 27/02/2022 10:42

@zingally

If she's 45, her parents must be pretty elderly, surely? Mid-late 70s?

OP, you are not wrong in any of what you've said, but consider things from her parents point of view. Middle-aged daughter moves in at roughly the start of lockdown, so nearly 2 years ago, and is STILL there. And whether your DP encouraged/expected it or not, her mum has taken on all the "care" of her, like she was 12 years old again. That's not reasonable, or normal behaviour. I'm sure your DP doesn't mean to be taking advantage of her elderly parents, but by even LETTING her mum clean for her, and do her laundry, she IS taking advantage.

And NOW she's got this random boyfriend/girlfriend(?) staying over pretty regularly? Basically, in the parents minds, another kid?

Dad was really rude, obviously, but I'm guessing he lost his cool and flipped. The parents are in their twilight years, they want to do their own thing, drink what they want, sit where they want... but instead they're having to play host to middle-aged life-in child's partner?

OP, you either need to move your get-togethers to your house, severely limit trips to your partners, or get rid of this 45-year-old child.

All of this, PLUS the gf has gone from "bringing up someone else's kids " to acting like a kid again herself
Bluebellbike · 27/02/2022 10:42

@FlowerArranger

To be honest, I'd have been more forthright in shutting him up when he started making those comments. And if it got to the point of him calling me a slot, I would have gathered my stuff and driven off in said car!
This^^
JadedSoJaded · 27/02/2022 11:09

Gosh, no way could I cope with that set up. The lying in is a key example of how self centred this woman appears to be. Has she no awareness that she’s being inconsiderate to you expecting you to see her in those conditions. You’re both middle aged, not 16 year olds!!

Broads93 · 27/02/2022 11:16

Just out of interest, are you in a same sex relationship? (Thats how i read it so apologies if i've got the wrong end of the stick) Sounds like he may have a problem with that.

Sfumato · 27/02/2022 11:19

@FinallyHere

The part that puzzles me is why, when you are being treated so badly by the parents, and, by extension, and your partner, it is you are are tip toeing around worried about what your partner will say.

The point about a partner is to enhance your life, not make you anxious about being treated decently.

Good luck.

Yes, exactly. You sound as if you’re desperate to appease her, while she exhibits zero signs of adulthood, self-awareness or effort.

I can’t get my head around a woman in her 40s texting her partner to apologise while her partner is being harangued by her rude father, rather than actually speaking up and telling her father to stop being so weirdly rude.

CaptainMyCaptain · 27/02/2022 12:18

If she's 45, her parents must be pretty elderly, surely? Mid-late 70s? Not necessarily (I have a daughter in her early 40s, I'm 67 and still quite fit and able to manage household tasks) but I agree with the poster who suggested the mother might be doing everything because she doesn't want to have to fight for space cooking, doing laundry etc. in her own kitchen.

Either way I wouldn't waste time with this woman who sleeps all day and expects you to tip toe around until she wakes up. I wouldn't put up with that under normal circumstances let alone in her parents' house.

dontgiveahoot · 27/02/2022 13:32

I'd be done with the sleeping in until 12 issue, let alone the appalling way in which her dad spoke to you. I'd have told him to fuck off, regardless of his being your GF's dad.
Living like this at 41, unless out of dire economic necessity is so unappealing. How little self respect does your gf have to allow this situation? Not a good life partner.

Patienceisntvirtuous · 27/02/2022 19:20

So many responses, I am humbled, thank you. I'll try to respond to all questions or ones that invite a reply for a given :)

I am so sorry, I definitely should have specified in the beginning that yes we're lesbians, she's been out since she was a pre-teen and has never been with a male. I've been out for 15 years. It's not hidden or surprising etc.

This is a bit of a struggle and a lot of the responses are really making me think.
I really was so happy a few months ago, when we first met however, I told her I wasn't wanting long distance and she encouraged me to give it a go. I really liked her, and am obviously not young any longer so I didn't want to give up on something that could work.

@chikapu she has been to the GP about her sleeping as she finds it abnormal herself, she isn't happy that she sleeps in so late. Her sleep pattern may also be affected by her working hours, but I doubt it would cause her to need more than 8 hours regularly.

We do go out, we both have dogs that we walk, we visit local attractions, go to the pub for dinner. She's also taken me doing things I don't like doing and I've nipped that in the bud now. :(

@luckingfovely I do find she's not as motivated in the same way I am. She's much more practical though, often involved in doing people's houses up or other such jobs for them.
I admit I may have been very naïve here. I definitely don't pick up after her, that may be the other way around, and she earns far less than me but does pay her way if we go out etc.

@bearpear no it wouldn't, but at least I could feel free to have a shower, make a cup of tea, put the TV on and the room would be larger!
I think the natural thing is for her to move in with me, I told her from the beginning I didn't want to relocate, and I wouldn't. She reassured me she would be happy to move to where I live. I do doubt that, given how close she is to her family and friends and we've discussed it many times.

@Sonicbroom one thing I worry about is as an older lesbian, my 'dating pool' is much smaller than the next person's! I am tryin to envision what 'better' looks like.

@simpleshootingweekend I honestly doubt the housework would fall to me, she's a lot better at it and a lot more conscientious about cleaning etc. But of the rest of your post, yes. I guess it is MY decision to not stay where she lives whereas she's happy to, so that's why I felt it would fall to me to pay for a hotel if we stayed in one.

@zonder she has told me she needs her own place, and has been looking, is on the list for a council place etc. But only because of me I think. I have brought it up with her before about feeling lonely/bored at her parents if she's asleep.

@chatoilleam I hear you on that :(
She sleeps in when staying at my house too, but at least I am free to do what I want there, and I live alone so I can go downstairs in my pjs, have a shower, go about my own things.

@hollowtalk okay. She's a really nice person, treats me nicely, buys a lot of things (I think, if you believe in 'love languages' that's hers, showering with gifts. I don't want gifts although they're lovely I'd rather have more 'attention' if you will? She does work fulltime and contributes/pays board. Nowhere near as much as rent would be and she's not in a position to buy.

@vicelikeblip her dad is a bit of arse, generally and treats her Mother awfully. I don't think it was a big deal her moving back in-I think she just asked her Mum, Mum said yes and told dad and no further discussion. Another (20 year old) family member lives there too. I definitely think that-her Dad is a certain breed! Definitely wouldn't talk to me like that if I were a man.

No, I don't think she's saving as in saving up, just wanted more money to herself each month and as her parent's place was an option she thought 'why not?'. She is looking to move out though. But as we've been together a while I was thinking perhaps she should move to be with me. I am doubtful for many reasons including many that have been highlighted on this thread.

@namegoeshere I won't be signing anything over to her

@forrestgreen no, she's never been with a man and lived with her ex girlfriend for years, had another LTR before that, I don't know beyond that.

@alisae I was surprised at the 'weak character' elements I saw in her. She's the more masculine of us by a long stretch and has always perpetuated her protective nature, always seemed to know her own mind and has stuck up to her father on many an occasion before. I didn't feel intimidated, and I held my own, but I did expect her to be more forthright with him when it happened.

@thingsdogetbetter maybe they didn't :(

Yes she buys her own food and pays board (I don't know how much). I'm a woman ,sorry I didn't specify.

They're very used to her sleeping in all day though-do you think they'd expect me to come down and sit with them/do things with them while she sleeps? I think that would be more uncomfortable for them as they don't know me well?

She hadn't lived with her parents for a long time before this. Before living alone she lived with her ex for a long time. I think the youngest child her ex had was a baby and is now 7 or thereabouts.

Yes she contributes and does more than me while she's here-will do me favours in the house. I pay for her food while she's here usually or most of it, but she buys me food when I stay there too. I usually end up taking most of it home as she buys so much of it!

I have thought about the financial and housework split yes. I don't think I'd expect her to contribute to my mortgage as she doesn't benefit from that, I think I'd just want a flat payment toward bills/expenses, and for her to save so we can eventually buy somewhere larger without me having to foot the deposit.

@mooster yes she will have to leave her job, but she works for a large company and could quite likely transfer. She's qualified to do a lot of things that would mean it wouldn't be that difficult for her to get a different job in a different field, so that's not too much of a worry.

I am worried about what'll happen if it doesn't work out-mostly that I don't want her uprooting her life and then having to start again :(

@thingsdogetbetter if you looked at both of us we're classing masculine/feminine lesbians and I am the latter!

I hadn't asked her about the hotel idea @eddielizzard when I began this thread. I just thought, it would be MY idea because of MY reluctance to stay where she thinks is fine, so why should she pay?

Anyway. I messaged her today and suggested it. I said her Dad obviously didn't want me there, and a hotel would resolve the issue of me feeling awkward while she sleeps in. She said it was fine and apologised again for her Dad's behavior. As suspected, she said she didn't think he didn't want me there, just that he's horrible when he's drunk. I said I was uncomfortable being cooped up in her room if she's asleep. I also mentioned a time when I was quite poorly in the middle of the night, and if we were here I'd have gone to have a shower, gone to get a drink etc. but I didn't want to because It's someone else's house.

She says she wouldn't expect me to stay there again and was fine with being in a hotel. And that this was 'all the more reason for her to get her own place'. I guess It's not so easy though.

I moved out when I was 16 and have never been back. It's a different world.

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