Who the F**K still thinks voting Tory is a good idea.

[beachcitygirl]

Just that really. Sociopathic Patel refusing visas. In a time where we need leadership & empathy & intelligence there's a ducking idiot at the helm & Rees~Mogg making a fortune with insider trading.
Who the hell will admit to being so sociopathically selffish & grabby to still vote Tory?

Why does slimey starmer want to keep university fees, maybe he hates pooper people.

Most labour supporters I know have children in private school and drive cars, take flights etc

What rubbish. No doubt it’s their taxes paying for 54% of adults to do absolutely nothing.

I‘m a higher rate tax payer, so is my husband, so are many of our friends - none of us will vote Tory because we are appalled by their destruction of the NHS, their heartlessness, their financial mismanagement and their failure to respond in any real way to climate change.

Same.

Thing is, if the Tories taxed private school fees, hiked up and out ULEZ and well, I can't really say anything about women's rights, the whole trans shit show has unfolded under the Tories but never mind, I'll ignore that, Clav would absolutely 100% be voting for them and cheering them along. I know that, she knows that and most importantly, the Tory party know that. They know they have zero work to do with voters like Clav. Likewise the Labour Party and some of their voters.

Maybe he understands the basic economics of higher education. We now have a society in which the minimum qualification for many jobs is a degree. That genie’s been out of the bottle for so long that unfortunately it can never be put back.

Self interest?
Is that why you bought 45 toilet rolls in a Covid panic buying spree?

Blimey, that was a bit random.

Blimey, that was a bit random

Not really - we were down to a box of tissues at one point.

You seem quite naive if you are unaware that many people get themselves into unnecessary debt by spending on luxuries essentials they can't really afford due to the cost of living crisis and the government not ensuring everyone gets a living wage.

Fixed that for you, @Clavinova

Zonder
Fixed that for you

Except that a holiday is not an essential - there were recent holiday snaps in the Guardian article.

You have no idea how recent. Just stop Clav, you’re becoming a parody.

Fuck me 54% of adults do nothing?

No.

"The analysis produced by the think tank Civitas contends that 36 million Britons, or 54 per cent, live in households that get more out than they put in. This finding may well appeal to those who reckon the country consists of lazy, feckless scroungers on the take from hard-working people like them.
At risk of spoiling the fun, the truth is a little more prosaic. For one, Civitas gets to its 54 per cent figure by counting not only pensions and welfare payments but ‘benefits in kind’, i.e. the ‘imputed value’ of the NHS treatment, state education and social care each household receives. "

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-problem-with-britains-benefits-debate/

beachcitygirl
Previously Labour were my second team if you like but Sir Kid Starver is just a Tory in a red tie.

Very astute observation op.

One million children experienced destitution in 2022.

@Clavinova - random insult. I wasn’t stockpiling loo roll or pushing old ladies over to get bread. I was working to ensure vulnerable people were housed, fed and had access to medical and other care. What were you doing? Furloughed while the rest of us worked perhaps? Or were you an essential worker? In which case your views are even odder.

Firstly a lot of people could afford holidays in recent years who absolutely can't now.

Secondly how do you know they weren't photos at the beach at Grandma's house? And could you read the date stamp?

You are coming over as really desperate to show how cold hearted you are.

Enterthewolves
I wasn’t stockpiling loo roll

Yes you did. I bet you agonised over school catchment areas, organic wine and handmade kitchens as well.

You appear to be voting on self interest and fuck the poor, & disabled, fuck the environment and our children’s future - in fact fuck anyone that isn’t you. Fair enough, it’s a democracy vote for whoever you will, but know that we see you for what you are.

Why don't you spend less on luxuries for yourself and give more money to charity?

@Clavinova ah ok. Figures.

Enterthewolves
ah ok. Figures

Are you a champagne socialist?

@Clavinova

That's such a typically Tory approach to inconvenient facts. Focus on monstering the family in the article, ignore the 1 million children living in destitution in Tory Britain.

Somebody REALLY wants this thread to end