Is the UK in danger from Russia?

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Keep receiving conflicting information. I am sick to my stomach and quite simply hate the unknown. So a simple question - is it likely that the UK will be in danger from Russia? And if so what does that look like? Cyber attacks, bombs being dropped?

@Valhalla17

If Boris keeps making threats then it's highly likely we will be nuked.

This is what I'm thinking .

[quote user1481840227]@Kinsters
No I don't think he was talking about economic sanctions or harsh words.

I assumed he meant if any country sent troops in etc. that they would then face consequences more extreme than they had faced before.[/quote]
Yes, I agree. So it's just empty words from him as he'll already have known NATO agreed not to send troops in.

I've just read the Russian troops are at the Polish border. Worrying!

They are going to kill zelensky. This is so sad.

I saw something on twitter yesterday comparing the number of NATO troops to russia, about 4-1 in NATOs favour, USA about 3 times more, plus allies like UK and Germany added up to a similar figure to NATO. Putin would be an absolute lunatic to extend beyond Ukrainian borders into Europe. I know he's not quite right but surely even the Russian forces would know they would be massively overwhelmed?

Suspect he has seen the taliban and china do exactly what they want in the last couple of years and fancies his chances with Ukrain which he will probably get away with. Didn't the international community condemn china and threaten economic sanctions for Tibet? And still we deal with China.

A dog turd in a dog turd bag, left hanging on a tree branch, would do a better job in this situation that Boris Johnson.

@Katya213

I've just read the Russian troops are at the Polish border. Worrying!

Where did you read that? Poland is a NATO member so if this is the case it's big news but I'm not seeing it anywhere.

@Katya213 where did you read this please, I’ve had a google but can’t see anything. Extremely worrying if true

Kinsters I think they were about 40 miles away from the Polish border. So still in the Ukraine. It’s in the papers this morning, satellite imagery shows a line of tanks

well of course Poland is next to Ukraine, all a bit close for comfort

I can't cut and paste it but it's in the daily mail, they've got there via Belarus, this is according to the US Secretary of state.

The whole situation is very concerning. I really feel for the ordinary people of Ukraine who are at a loss to know what to do. I know many are trying to flee but many will be unable to do this. The loss of life will be devastating.

@Katya213

I can't cut and paste it but it's in the daily mail, they've got there via Belarus, this is according to the US Secretary of state.

That's very worrying if the reports are correct. Hopefully they will just sit there and not try and engineer any pretext for war. I don't know why they would do that though - it would almost certainly be a war Russia couldn't win.

The West has shown itself to be incredibly weak. Putin won't stop at Ukraine, but he has no interest in the UK. Bar an ever spiralling decrease in living standards, we will not be directly impacted in the UK.
I also don't think that NATO will respond militarily to an attack on a member (say, Lithuania) despite it being the founding purpose of NATO. There is no appetite for it. Putin knows this. I imagine China will also be emboldened to attack Taiwan. Our empire is over and new ones are emerging. It's the way of things.

[quote Libraryghost]@TabithaHazel are you seriously comparing long covid to the situation in Ukraine? You sound unhinged. [/quote]
Err no I’m not I was quoting another poster who was ffs

It's worrying but I really don't think we are looking at nuclear war. Or maybe I just don't want to believe anyone is that stupid. It's like sinking the boat you're on in order to get rid of a fellow passenger. It's insane.

I am, erm, blessed, to have a conspiracy theorist in my life who believes that Putin has been forced/manipulated into this by the USA and UK in order to save their bankrupt economies by selling lots of weapons. That and there are a great many Russians and russian speakers in Ukraine (and other parts of the old USSR) with family in Russia and who want to become part of Russia again. That's just the edges of it. It's really quite the essay!

Long covid 😂

@AnyFucker

If not Russia, there's Long Covid. Despite rumours to the contrary that threat has not gone away

Get some help, for pity’s sake

I get banned for a week for making a thread about She Who Must Not Be Named, and this is allowed to continue unabated.

No the UK isn't in danger. The UK would moan and complain and condemn and secretly offer weapons to Ukraine doing charity works etc. Also the casualties won't be very high like some Middle Eastern country where they deliberately aim at hospitals and civilians with phosphorus bombs to ethnically cleanse and expand housing development. To not allow this to go out of context, I'm no way supporting what Russia is doing right now but what Russia is doing isn't ethnic cleansing and believe me, my native country has lived through ethnic cleansing in Balkans and mass graves are still being dug up today.

Scrolling through thinking to myself 'tealights always finds away to make a thread - ANY THREAD - about covid or the london homeless and...

London? Doubt Londoners - particularly the two thirds of all of England's homeless families - wanted any 'filthy' money

I mean this in the nicest way possible: get some help IRL. Please.

@MrsLargeEmbodied

yes, cost of living for a start cyber attacks refugees communism

Communism??

Russia isn't communist, its a military dictatorship.

How are we in danger from refugees? We never let them in and the few that make it here aren't a danger to us, despite what the Putin loving Farage wants us to believe...

We have already been cyber attacked happened at 3.30 am yesterday morning at CGHQ communications were affected and went off grid. Russia did it to multiple countries around the world at the time of invasion - mainly communication symptoms. We have vessels patrolling in the sea to try to prevent Russian subs from cutting the cables on the seabed that we rely on and the Ukraine for internet and comms. Less likely to be attacked and more likely to be sabotaged.
We apply sanctions - do you seriously think Putin won’t react to that or counter.
Our energy prices are set to double. Russian energy supplies cut off who force the economy into paying sky high prices as demand is restricted or soars.
Putin has already put troops on the boarder of Poland. He might bide his time like he did after Crimea but he won’t stop expanding Greater Russia.

His attack could of been prevented months ago if the West has stated and flown troops into Ukraine. We are responsible for failing to protect them and it will have dire consequences.

Regarding the EU - if I was in Poland or had family there I’d been very worried right now.

Communication systems not symptoms (!) have other posts on this thread in my brain (!!)

It's something we sadly have no control over, so maybe just carry on dealing with our own grief and problems. Quite a few of us have enough of those (heartaches) in our own personal lives to sink a ship.
We can't cope with our own grief right now, so there is no way we can take on the rest of the world.
It's like with the pandemic. It doesn't take away our personal sadness. It just sticks to it like a fucking leach and makes it even harder to deal with. Life is vile, cruel and unfair. I only have to look into my son's eyes to know that.