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AIBU?

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Original poster

Who’s in the right?!

213 replies

wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:07

I will try and explain as clear as I can

To get into my car park for work you have to turn right off a main road and straight into the opening for the car park. There is a path/cycle Lane either side of the opening.

For the second time this morning, the same cyclist has not stopped to see if the coast is clear to cycle across the turning, meaning I have had to slam my brakes on/he’s swerved to miss me. This means I’ve had to stop dead in the middle of the other side of the road to ensure I don’t hit him.

Am I right in thinking cars have the right of way turning in and cyclists should wait on the path until it’s clear?

Tempted not to bloody stop next time. Grrrrr

OP posts:
SugarAndCoffee · 23/02/2022 08:41

They should slow down when they get to a road to cross not just ignore it and continue to try and set their best time for their stupid Strava league.

BobLemon · 23/02/2022 08:41

Flipping heck. You’re absolutely in the wrong and the cyclist is in the right. And you were BEFORE the Highway Code change! Your example of driving is objectively careless. Why would you fail to check for a hazard that had actually happened to you before? Confused don’t reply. It’s rhetorical. I think we’ve got the measure, OP.

SugarAndCoffee · 23/02/2022 08:42

@Bullandbush

It doesn't matter if the cyclist is technically correct. If they're stupid enough to cycle in front of a turning car because it's their right they'll soon be knocked off.

There's being right and there's being stupid.

I agree it doesn't matter what the rules are it's a stupid thing to do to just ignore a road
Arabellla · 23/02/2022 08:42

@wonderwoman26

So funny isn’t it, within 10 minutes of the post being up asking a question as to who’s in the wrong, I’ve been told I’m entitled, a dangerous driver and that people hate me. With zero prior knowledge of anything about me - the internets a funny place. I’m sorry the worlds so horrid to you that you feel the need to insult complete strangers online. I hope the day gets better for you trolls xx
people hate me

What did you expect when you said you hate all cyclists?

I’m not a cyclist but I have been a driver for half my adult life and by and far the biggest knob heads have been other drivers, not cyclists.

Anyone who says they hate cyclists cannot be sensible and worth listening to.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 23/02/2022 08:42

I think someone’s upset that she’s been told she’s wrong and can’t handle it. Anyone else seeing verica salt

Arabellla · 23/02/2022 08:42

Half of my life, that should be

Original poster
wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:43

It was a simple question as to whether I was wrong, which is clear that I am and have admitted.

The question has now been answered so you could all carry on with your days knowing you proved a ‘dangerous, moronic’ driver wrong - and I am know aware of the rules.
But instead of just simply replying and being helpful, you decide to judge my character without knowing me.
It’s okay though, I know I’m a perfectly capable driver, had a question it’s been answered. Nobody will die at my car.

Have a lovely day everyone xx

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SugarAndCoffee · 23/02/2022 08:43

No point sounding your horn either as I bet they have headphones in

AllOfUsAreDead · 23/02/2022 08:43

@Bullandbush

It doesn't matter if the cyclist is technically correct. If they're stupid enough to cycle in front of a turning car because it's their right they'll soon be knocked off.

There's being right and there's being stupid.

Doesn't matter if it makes sense or not. As the driver, you'd still be the one prosecuted.

Seems a high price to pay just to prove a point. And yet still be proven wrong.

Lindaloo08 · 23/02/2022 08:44

If you were turning in and I was walking, I'd stop to let you finish your turn, why is it different for a cyclist when the cycle lane has stopped? By some posters comments, if you were to wait to make sure no cyclist was coming you could be there all day.

queenMab99 · 23/02/2022 08:45

If there was no cycle path, cyclists on the road in the opposite lane would have right of way. Pedestrians walking in either direction on the footpath/cycle path would have right of way, as you are crossing their zone.
A cyclist cannot be travelling faster than the cars on the road, so you have no excuse not to see him/her.
If you cannot see that the cyclist has right of way, you must be blinded by your unreasonable hatred of cyclists. You are very unreasonable and a danger to others on the road.

Original poster
wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:45

@Lindaloo08

If you were turning in and I was walking, I'd stop to let you finish your turn, why is it different for a cyclist when the cycle lane has stopped? By some posters comments, if you were to wait to make sure no cyclist was coming you could be there all day.
I also thought it was just the polite thing to do, but clearly we are in the minority
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Arabellla · 23/02/2022 08:45

If you have to slam the brakes, you’re not a capable driver. You’re a dangerous driver.

I check the pavements / cycle paths on either side of the road before turning into the road and have never had to slam the brakes.

GrendelsGrandma · 23/02/2022 08:46

If having a right chuckle = having your arse handed to you because you have shown yourself not to know the rules you're required to follow as a driver, then yeah sure, hah ha ha.

You came on to get people to bitch about cyclists. The 'stoopid cyclists deserve to get knocked down' attitude is very dangerous. Sort yourself out. I don't think the police or your insurer would have a sense of humour about it either.

poorbuthappy · 23/02/2022 08:47

Ok playing devils advocate a little bit.

If the OP is turning her car into the entrance and the cyclist hits the side of her car....so the cyclist basically turns up during the manoeuvre would she still be the cause of the collision?

Yes I know it's unlikely because unless it's such a massive hill that the cyclist can get up to 80mph and appear from nowhere then actually the cyclist is in the vicinity and therefore obviously needs to be taken into account.
Just wondered Grin

User1367349 · 23/02/2022 08:48

It’s fascinating, isn’t it? You joke about killing a cyclist, say you hate them and then complain vigorously about everyone else’s “shitty” comments. Please take a look at yourself. If you have kids I hope you are raising them better than this.

From what you’ve described, you didn’t have right of way before the rules changed. Now they have changed you have even less excuse. Look where you are going.

Original poster
wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:49

I am more than happy with being wrong - it’s not a knock to my ego and I am now better off for knowing the Highway Code changes - the reason for the post was to find out if I’m wrong and that’s totally fine. I don’t have any issues with that, confused by those comments saying I’m having my arse handed to me? Good! Means I am getting an answer to my question.

If any of genuinely believe I would run someone over for the sake of it - your off your rockers. It’s called a joke, but clearly the seriousness of mumsnet doesn’t allow for such a thing.

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FrangipaniBlue · 23/02/2022 08:50

OP - AIBU?
The Highway Code - yes, you are in the wrong
OP - ok that's what you say are the rules, but your rule are silly and I'm still not BU

MN gold.

Wiennetta · 23/02/2022 08:50

Nobody is trolling you @wonderwoman26. You said you hate cyclists and said next time you’ll just plough into him. That plus you actually not being aware of the current Highway Code is what’s worrying people - you sound like a dangerous and unpleasant driver. I hope you read the responses on here and rethink.

Original poster
wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:51

@poorbuthappy

Ok playing devils advocate a little bit.

If the OP is turning her car into the entrance and the cyclist hits the side of her car....so the cyclist basically turns up during the manoeuvre would she still be the cause of the collision?

Yes I know it's unlikely because unless it's such a massive hill that the cyclist can get up to 80mph and appear from nowhere then actually the cyclist is in the vicinity and therefore obviously needs to be taken into account.
Just wondered Grin

This was one of my curiosity’s also, because both times he ended up swerving behind me to not hit into the side of me - as I was already that far into the turning that I wouldn’t have hit him with the front of my car, he would of hit me if that makes sense. But by the looks of the Highway Code I’d have still been at fault
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luxxlisbon · 23/02/2022 08:51

“ I also thought it was just the polite thing to do, but clearly we are in the minority”

So do you stop for all motorists wanting to cross over your lane then? Surely it’s the polite thing to do…

oviraptor21 · 23/02/2022 08:52

Maybe try not to hate cyclists so much? There are good ones and bad ones, just like there are good and bad drivers. But the chances of even the bad cyclists killing someone are much lower than the chances of even the best driver.
And no, he is not safer on the path than you are on the road, as you are clearly demonstrating every time you brake/swerve to avoid him.

Bullandbush · 23/02/2022 08:52

@AllOfUsAreDead we know though that cyclists come off worse in a collision.
Both the driver and the cyclist shouldn't be proving a point.
Everyone should use the roads with more consideration.

Arabellla · 23/02/2022 08:53

This was one of my curiosity’s also, because both times he ended up swerving behind me to not hit into the side of me - as I was already that far into the turning that I wouldn’t have hit him with the front of my car, he would of hit me if that makes sense.
But by the looks of the Highway Code I’d have still been at fault

Because you are at fault. Check the pavements / cycle paths.

MotherCupboard · 23/02/2022 08:53

If the OP is turning her car into the entrance and the cyclist hits the side of her car....so the cyclist basically turns up during the manoeuvre would she still be the cause of the collision?

Yes, because cyclists don't just turn up out of nowhere. The cyclist would have been there to be seen.

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