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Who’s in the right?!

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:07

I will try and explain as clear as I can

To get into my car park for work you have to turn right off a main road and straight into the opening for the car park. There is a path/cycle Lane either side of the opening.

For the second time this morning, the same cyclist has not stopped to see if the coast is clear to cycle across the turning, meaning I have had to slam my brakes on/he’s swerved to miss me. This means I’ve had to stop dead in the middle of the other side of the road to ensure I don’t hit him.

Am I right in thinking cars have the right of way turning in and cyclists should wait on the path until it’s clear?

Tempted not to bloody stop next time. Grrrrr

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:17

To be clear - I am not some maniac that is driving 100mph and turning into oncoming traffic.

I am obviously waiting for the coast to be clear in which it is when I initiate my turn, both times he has been nowhere near when I started my turn but because of the speed he’s flying down the path he reaches me very quickly.
I am going a suitable speed as there is a speed bump to cross also, and I obviously stop in time to not kill him

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Smileatthesmallthings · 23/02/2022 08:18

Does the cycle lane have stop or give way lines at the ends before the opening like at a road end?

Thebedistoohot · 23/02/2022 08:18

I understand your frustration, especially as some cyclists come flying along and seemingly appear from nowhere.

The Highway Code has changed and so now, any cyclist or pedestrian has right of way over a car at junctions so you are in the wrong in this instance.

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:19

@Smileatthesmallthings

Does the cycle lane have stop or give way lines at the ends before the opening like at a road end?
Erm can’t say either way on that one actually as I’ve never walked the path so don’t have time to look when I’m driving if that makes sense
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EnjoyingTheSilence · 23/02/2022 08:20

I hate drivers like you. So bloody entitled

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:20

Okay I’ll accept it appear via Highway Code that I am in the wrong.

However in both instances with this cyclist I believe he’s been going way way to fast and using his newly given power to abuse

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:21

@EnjoyingTheSilence

I hate drivers like you. So bloody entitled
For not wanting to kill a speeding cyclist on a junction? Okay 👍🏼
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SugarAndCoffee · 23/02/2022 08:21

@Smileatthesmallthings

Does the cycle lane have stop or give way lines at the ends before the opening like at a road end?
Ooh yeah that's important
SugarAndCoffee · 23/02/2022 08:22

That wasn't sarcastic BTW. If it has those lines the cyclist should be aware it's like a junction for them.

Georgeskitchen · 23/02/2022 08:22

The news laws are an absolute ass. Many cycclists are a f**King liability at the best of times, now they have been given even more rights without having to take any responsibility whatsoever for their often utter dickhead behaviour. This is one reason why I rarely drive these days
(Luckily don't need to)

Savvysix1984 · 23/02/2022 08:22

Is the cyclist cycling in the same direction as you but on the wrong side of the road or is there a designated cycle lane?

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:22

So funny isn’t it, within 10 minutes of the post being up asking a question as to who’s in the wrong, I’ve been told I’m entitled, a dangerous driver and that people hate me.
With zero prior knowledge of anything about me - the internets a funny place.
I’m sorry the worlds so horrid to you that you feel the need to insult complete strangers online. I hope the day gets better for you trolls xx

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vivainsomnia · 23/02/2022 08:23

As a cyclist, it's people like you who I curse putting my life in danger. I got almost hit by someone like you. The path was clear, you could see me from coming but that car was too impatient and decided to cut across suddenly and if I hadn't slam my breaks would have hit me.

Go and learn the code before you take attitude with those who do know it.

AllOfUsAreDead · 23/02/2022 08:25

@Wiennetta

The cyclist has right of way. Drivers like you are dangerous - you’re anti cyclist and you don’t know how to drive.
Dunno why op laughed at this, you're right. She's a moron and a danger on the road.

You've done this how many times and still not cottoned on to the fact that you're fucking up here? Hmm You even see the cyclist as you're driving past him, and still almost hit him. That's a hell of a fuck up to admit to.

You're wrong, he's right. Try not to kill someone, although I imagine you'd just drive off and not admit to it.

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:25

@Savvysix1984

Is the cyclist cycling in the same direction as you but on the wrong side of the road or is there a designated cycle lane?
So he’s the opposite side of the road, but on a cycle path, so there is the other traffic going the other way between us
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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:26

Haha wow! I’m now also a moron and a murderer!! It’s a good job I’m happy in my life as to not be affected by total strangers comments.

Feel so bad for you x

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vivainsomnia · 23/02/2022 08:26

The need is because of your attitude. You did just asked a question, you strongly implied you were in the right and the cyclist was an imbecile whilst you were putting in danger.

Still now you know, so hopefully you'll behave differently and if you told him off or worse before, you'll apologise.

MajorCarolDanvers · 23/02/2022 08:26

Cyclists and pedestrians have right of way. In this case they always have - even before the Highway Code changed.

MotherCupboard · 23/02/2022 08:26

both times he has been nowhere near when I started my turn but because of the speed he’s flying down the path he reaches me very quickly

I work in insurance claims and you wouldn't believe the number of times people say "he came out of nowhere". Unless he's harry potter in his invisibility cloak, no he didn't. You just aren't looking properly.

He's got right of way. The car turning right always has to give way to the vehicle whose path they are trying to cross in the absence of any road signs or markings. Especially seeing as the highway code now states that the person who is crossing the road in that scenario has right of way, even if they hadn't started to cross yet. You should be looking far enough up the road to see him approach and giving way to him. If he's taking you by surprise then you aren't observing properly. Good job its not a parent with a pram or something.

This is pretty basic stuff - think you need to brush up on the highway code and chill because getting this wound up about cyclists going about their day is going to lead to an accident and the cyclist will always come off worse.

Noshoesinthehouse · 23/02/2022 08:26

OP, please read some of the responses and look at the voting. You are are wrong and have a worrying attitude. If you follow through on your misguided thinking you will kill a cyclist, ha ha.

EnjoyingTheSilence · 23/02/2022 08:27

@wonderwoman26 go back and read your earlier posts

‘Tempted not to stop next time’ yes I know (at least hope) it’s a joke but that you even think it’s ok as a joke

‘Hate cyclists at the best of times’ nice attitude to have there. There are some bad cyclists out there, there are also bad drivers and bad pedestrians

So yes, as a cyclist and a driver, I hate drivers like you who can’t be arsed to wait a few seconds or minutes to ensure everyone’s safety.

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wonderwoman26 · 23/02/2022 08:28

Thank you everyone for your helpful comments, I believe the Highway Code has changed fairly recently and seeing as I don’t regularly read updated rules and regulations books I was out of the loop.

To those who have used it as a post to vent out from their shitty mornings - try and cheer up, it’s only 8.30am you’ve got a long day ahead in this mood x

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InaccurateDream · 23/02/2022 08:28

I have to turn into a car park every day to collect my son from school. Across a similar turning.

I always check to see what the pedestrians/cyclists are doing and if they’re likely to stop if they’re near the turning, if they’re near enough that I should pause etc. You are obviously aware of this cyclist from your OP and you’re assuming he will stop but he doesn’t need to so just keep not hitting him…

notthemum · 23/02/2022 08:29

Sorry Wonderwoman. I feel your pain, but I'm afraid that pps are right and you are the one who needs to stop/wait.
I am concerned that these ridiculous new rules are going to cause some serious accidents. (Although tempting, please don't run them over 😉)

MotherCupboard · 23/02/2022 08:29

The news laws are an absolute ass. Many cycclists are a fKing liability at the best of times, now they have been given even more rights without having to take any responsibility whatsoever for their often utter dickhead behaviour. This is one reason why I rarely drive these days

It sounds like the road is a much safer place for you not driving if you're getting that angry about other road users.