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AIBU- No overnight stays

363 replies

Satsuma2019 · 22/02/2022 18:06

Hello, me and my DH are on different pages with regards to sleepovers at grandparents (or anybody really) house. My MIL and my mum have asked a few times and I have said no because tbh I don’t really see what they are gaining by having them sleep. I’m more than happy to drop DDs off at their house for them to spend the day whilst I get on with some errands and pick them up at a convenient time. My MIL thinks I’m being selfish but I think since I’ve done all the hard parts like night feeds, teething and the troublesome twos without any help and the DDs are now easier to watch, why shouldn’t I reap the rewards and enjoy their time rather than palming them off. Plus if I say yes to one then how can I say no to everyone else and then what time will I get to spend with them?

Aibu?

OP posts:
Lorw · 22/02/2022 19:16

But isn’t the perks of having grandkids not doing the hard parts? Like that’s not their responsibility 😂 I loved going to my grandmas house when I was younger, we were always there and having sleepovers 😁

Mooda · 22/02/2022 19:16

You haven't said whether your DC would like to stay with their grandparents. Surely that's the deciding factor - not point scoring over who did what when they were younger.

Personally I adored staying with GPs when I was a child and my DC love their stays with their GPs. They didn't start going until they were about 5 though as I wouldn't have expected anyone else to deal with the baby/ toddler years.

mummykel16 · 22/02/2022 19:17

@Abraxan

Yes, but the mother should have the final say, obviously.

Why?
Mum and dad ought to be equal parents (ideally, obviously different in some situations) so neither has a greater say than the other.

At some point a decision must be made, mom should get final say.
bexxboo · 22/02/2022 19:17

I wish I had this problem 😂 the only time when my DD's GP has her overnight is when I've been in tears on the phone to my ex about how I'm struggling to cope. In other words it's not as a regular thing/ a treat, it's whenever I have a mental breakdown.

CandleWick4 · 22/02/2022 19:17

What I wouldn’t give for my parents or my PIL to offer to have my DC for a sleepover once in a while. I loved sleeping at my nans when I was little - she’s no longer here and I have lovely memories about the time we spent together.
It’s not about palming them off or who did what when they were babies. It’s about them getting quality and fun time with their grandparents. Baths and cuddles in their pjs and hot chocolate and bed time stories and having breakfast together.
You and DH get a break - have a nice tea, go out for a drink, get a sleep in, have breakfast in bed, walk around naked, whatever. It’s a novelty not a chore.

saraclara · 22/02/2022 19:18

When the children were under 2, they were too young for them to be comfortable staying the night with GPs...so your rationale of revenge on them for not doing overnights when the children were under 2 comes across as petty and obtuse.

Not to mention that it was Covid times, so kids weren't experiencing time at, or with their grandparents'. My DD is now two, and I wouldn;t have dreamed of having her overnight when it was allowed, because she had led a very socially isolated life for much of her first two years, barely seeing the inside of anyone's house, or being cared for by anyone other than her mum and dad.

Things are different now, she knows me well, and my DD and I are planning a night where she stays here overnight, but with my DD present, as a step towards her having sleepovers. It's important that she does have experience of staying here, because should DD and her DH have any kind of emergency and I have to have her, she'll already be comfortable staying here.

I loved staying with my GPs. It was cosy, and I got lots of attention and love.

worriedatthemoment · 22/02/2022 19:18

@mummykel16 you compromise like you do in relationships and be grown ups
What if they split ? On his time he can do what he wants
If op had safety concerns then fair enough she would have a more valid argument
But according to you mums trump it all

Stropalotopus83 · 22/02/2022 19:18

@AngelinaFibres

I am 1 of 3. We stayed with my grandparents every school holiday. They are some if the happiest memories of my childhood. My dad was totally career focused and my mum is not very demonstrative. My grandparents were absolutely wonderful. After lunch we used to sit on grandads knees (all 3 of us at the same time) and climb inside his giant old jumpers and we would say "Tell us a story grandad". He would tell us about his childhood, and starting work in the Derbyshire coal fields at 14. He had an allotment. It is because of what I learned from him that I have a beautiful garden. My grandma used to bake. She taught us all to make bread and cakes. My brothers and I shared the back bedroom until I was 8. I shall never forget summer nights ,when it was still light, laughing ourselves silly in our beds in that room. It takes many , many people to raise a fully rounded child Op. I have so many skills because of my wider family. I am about to be a granny. I cannot wait to have my grandchild to stay over when he is a little older. Embrace all the opportunities there are out there. Different people have different knowledge, skills, hobbies, interests. Let everyone share their love for your child.
We did this with our children. MIL and FAL lived abroad for many years and childcare was difficult for us during holidays. So we sent our two children to them for the holidays. Easter, Whit, summer holidays they both spent abroad with their grandchildren. They absolutely loved it, grandparents loved it and both children are now very independent and have a love of travel. They used to look forward to going so much and DH and I enjoyed the child free time. We missed them of course but it's done wonders for their self confidence and they have so many happy memories with their grandparents and such a lovely relationship with them.
Katya213 · 22/02/2022 19:19

Unless there's a reason you don't trust them, be grateful.

TicTacHoh · 22/02/2022 19:19

God, is there no end to what people will moan about? Of course people are more likely to offer to babysit once they're past the baby/toddler years.

What do your children think? I have fond memories of staying with my GP's, and my DC love doing the same now.

Uni90 · 22/02/2022 19:19

Do you find your families a bit demanding on you for time etc with your children ?I can understand that if you don’t want to suddenly open the floodgates for a sleepover and therefore another area for demanding. Sometimes I think it can feel like you are pleasing everyone else all the time so do what you want to they are your children after all. I never stayed at grandparents and I can’t say it’s something ive ever really thought about ( we didn’t have the option for various reasons but still!)

peboh · 22/02/2022 19:19

@mummykel16 I completely have to disagree. Especially in the case of the OP. There are no safe guarding concerns, so why shouldn't dad get to say 'off to grandparents you go kid'. My husband and I come to compromises. In some instances what I say goes, in others what he says does. It's a partnership. I'm not the leader and the boss. As mummy, I don't get final ownership over our shared daughter.

DickMabutt73962 · 22/02/2022 19:20

@Satsuma2019

I just don’t understand how they can be so little involved during the tough parts and suddenly want to be so involved now that the children are more interesting that’s what I meant in my OP by reaping the rewards. Obviously it seems I’m being unreasonable but based on my parents, my in laws and siblings all offering to have DDs overnight I don’t think it’s extreme to think it will be a constant thing being badgered.
What an odd perspective
Leggingslife · 22/02/2022 19:20

Yabu

elenacampana · 22/02/2022 19:20

I loved my sleepovers at my nan’s growing up, they’re some of my best memories. I also loved my relationship with her, her home was my home. I’ve missed her immeasurably since she died in 2014. If my mum had kept me away because she wanted me all to herself, she’d have been robbing me of my whole other life that meant so much to me. It’s not the same as daytime visits, the overnights are special.

My daughter is only 3 months so she doesn’t know whether it’s Wednesday or Wembley half the time, but we’ve let her stay out twice at my MIL’s house and she’s going to my mum and dad overnight soon. I really want her to have the lovely time with grandparents that I had.

So yes, I think YABVU because it seems to be all about you.

Mamamia7962 · 22/02/2022 19:21

I find this really sad. One of the best parts of childhood is going to stay at grandparents. I used to go and stay with my grandmother for a week or more during school holidays, and my children would stay with my parents regularly as well. Happy childhood memories.

SickAndTiredAgain · 22/02/2022 19:21

Ok, dad says yay mom says nay, what next?

A reasonable discussion where no one says “I’m the mum so I always decide”? Like every other disagreement in a reasonable adult relationship.

(I’m not suggesting OP is doing this)

If it’s the case that every time you disagree you play your “mother” trump card, you must make all the decisions and always get what you want regardless of their father’s feelings on it?

saraclara · 22/02/2022 19:21

At some point a decision must be made, mom should get final say.

I'd love to know your reasoning for this thinking @mummykel16

WhatisanODP · 22/02/2022 19:22

Yab a bit unreasonable. The kids will love it, and you can have a lie in!

What’s not to love!?

Shamoo · 22/02/2022 19:22

Unless the adults in question have issues that make them unsuitable to care for children, it seems super odd to me that you wouldn’t be biting their hands off assuming your kids are a reasonable age.

My inlaws have announced they want to take our DD to Spain for three weeks without us each year. Now that I have an issue with!

DickMabutt73962 · 22/02/2022 19:22

@Satsuma2019

I’m not bitter at doing the hard parts. I never asked for help and just got on with it with little help from DH too. But DGPs had very little contact during this period. Was never really bothered about visiting etc they were offered quality time but always had a reason why they couldn’t see us and now suddenly they want phone calls every day, visits every week and now sleepovers. Just a bit convenient it’s now that the children are easier they want to be involved Blush
Well your kids are more interesting now! Sorry that they didn't find staring at a blub of a baby all that engaging.
mummykel16 · 22/02/2022 19:23

[quote worriedatthemoment]@mummykel16 you compromise like you do in relationships and be grown ups
What if they split ? On his time he can do what he wants
If op had safety concerns then fair enough she would have a more valid argument
But according to you mums trump it all [/quote]
So they can't agree a compromise, with some things that's not possible, what next?

Justwatching1 · 22/02/2022 19:23

one day their grandparents wont be there i dont have any grandparents left my first one died when i was 12

Abraxan · 22/02/2022 19:23

Obviously neither of you have to agree to it, but your reasons for not wanting them to stay over appears to come from them not helping out more when the children were small.which seems unfair - they are children's grandparents, not parents.

How old are your children? If old enough to be asked, what would they say?

I have lovely memories of staying over with my grandparents. It was often last minute ad-hoc occasions, and I can still remember how lovely it was. My memory still brings up the smell of my grandparent's bedding on the spare bed, and the joy of helping grandad in the garden or walking to the shops with my nana and being able to choose some sweets for the evening. I even got to go on holiday once with one set, as did my siblings individually.

My dd stayed over with grandparents from being about 3. Initially for a reason, such as us going out, later at her request. She's been on holiday with them and she used to have an annual visit to London with my parents to visit my grandparents, when they were alive. Such precious memories for her,

She's always loved staying with her grandparents. She is now almost 20y and at university. She's been for 'sleepovers' at her grandparents whilst there - catching the train and spending 2 or 3 evenings with them, going out for a meal and, now she's older, sharing a bottle of wine, etc with them.

I think often a stronger bond can form through those slightly extended times together, without parents in the way. And obviously a perfect chance for grandparents to 'spoil' the children with too much sweets/sugar than mum and dad allow, and maybe getting to stay up a bit later for a while as part of the treat.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 22/02/2022 19:24

Just a bit convenient it’s now that the children are easier they want to be involved

Of course they waited until it got easier. Don't forget they also raised you and your DH through the 'hard parts' - why would you expect them to do it again?

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