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The way the Tory government are acting now makes it feel like all the lockdowns were a waste of time

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Poetrypatty · 21/02/2022 17:24

Just lifting all the restrictions as if it was all a waste of time. It makes me feel like a mug for everything we went through, especially as they were having their parties and not even following the rules. I think it's bad for peoples mental health as well.

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AllThingsServeTheBeam · 21/02/2022 20:08

@TravellingFrom

For an illness that itself isn't very serious now anyway.

Have you missed the 1000 people who died last week??

My nan 'died from covid' except she didn't. She was 90, been bedridden for 7 years and fed through a tube who caught covid whilst already having a chest infection that led to pneumonia.

So take those figures with a pinch of salt. Do you trust China's figures?

labyrinthlaziness · 21/02/2022 20:08

The arguments for continued restrictions are utterly irrational & disordered thinking

Tests are not restrictions.

Sick pay is not a restriction.

Duntelchaig · 21/02/2022 20:09

Firstly, if you are elderly or vulnerable and have symptoms the tests are STILL FREE! Those in my view are the people who should be able to access free tests, not just anyone who fancies it at a cost to the taxpayer.

I have colleagues who test every sodding day at work completely unnecessarily - they can pay for it if they want to keep doing it, and I bet you they won’t!

Secondly, the UK deaths are listed as being very high because of how we recorded them. Dying because you fell out of a tree within 28 days of a positive test? Yes, you are recorded as a Covid death. No one could accuse the powers that be of massaging figures down…

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roarfeckingroarr · 21/02/2022 20:10

@Poetrypatty

If people want to test they can.

They won't be able to any more after what 5 weeks time. So it's just free for all after that. I feel sorry for shielding people and vulnerable people I really do.

You can pay for tests.
Alexandra2001 · 21/02/2022 20:11

@Marchmount No one is saying anyone has got it all right all the time but with Delta, Sturgeon led and BJ followed.

Omicron was a complete unknown, no one predicted it would be so much more milder than Delta but still a very serious illness for older unvaccinated people.

Can't compare rates in the devolved nations as they had zero control over borders.

MalagaNights · 21/02/2022 20:11

Windystate
^These threads are always the same, full of middle class tory voters who have no fucking idea what the impact of the pandemic has actually been for the people who haven't been able to wfh and save money on petrol for the audi.^

I agree with your point about those privileged people who've had quite a nice lockdown working from home in their new garden offices etc, ^except^...the labour party is now the party of the elite middle class liberals wanting this to carry on not the Tories.

LorelaiDeservedBetter · 21/02/2022 20:11

This isn't about the science. It isn't about the economy. It isn't about health. It's about Boris trying to save his skin and funnel some extra money to wealthy city landowners.

I'm amazed there are lots of idiots willing to sacrifice their health, and their DCs' health to line the pockets of the wealthy and save Johnson's reputation especially since Johnson and those wealthy elites have made it abundantly clear that they do not care if anyone else lives or dies.

I'm patiently waiting for other countries to ban entry from the UK again. Maybe then Boris will suddenly remember that science exists.

Franklin12 · 21/02/2022 20:12

It’s about time and why should everything be free forever. It’s why we can’t seem to have a sensible conversation about overhauling the NHS.

okelydokelyneighbourino · 21/02/2022 20:12

I'm currently feeling awful with covid and I'm hoping I will feel better by Thursday as I need to get paid and I know my boss will expect me back. I've been so happy to be still getting positives so I didn't have to go in tomorrow.

Alexandra2001 · 21/02/2022 20:12

@roarfeckingroarr Name change fail?

Carers on min wages have got an extra £20 per week for tests.

GirlInACountrySong · 21/02/2022 20:13

I'm just glad that staff absences will stop now

Nobody will stay off work and use up a sickness period for something so mild.

Life will be easier without running round trying to cover

Mumoblue · 21/02/2022 20:13

I won’t be able to afford £20 tests. I’ve already have it and I’m triple vaxxed but it is a bit worrying. I think it’s likely to end up with us back in lockdown again.

MalagaNights · 21/02/2022 20:13

Testing is no longer needed.
Stay at home if you're ill until you're better.

Sick pay is the same issue as it was before.

EatSleepRantRepeat · 21/02/2022 20:13

@TravellingFrom

I'm sick of hearing people using "the vulnerable" as an excuse instead of saying they're personally struggling to adjust. The vulnerable have been vaccinated 3 times and will get a 4th, all for free, so we can get out from under these restrictions.

@EatSleepRantRepeat one of the ry big reason why vulnerable people are still so vulnerable is because (and excuse me for shouting)
THEY ARE NOT ABKE TO DEVELOP THE ANTIBODIES DESPITE 3 or 4 JABS
So they are still just MORE susceptible than despite having had some many vaccinations.

Getting 4 jabs, which all the CEV will have had already btw, will not those people from catching covid and be ill.

Plus of course, there is a huge risk as a society with long covid.
There is very little information out there about LC, the effect of the vaccines and getting several infections with covid closely together. If the numbers are still even half of what they were pre vaccination, that’s still at least 1% of people with LC. That means 1% of people who are basically disabled. Not good for a society at all, at all levels really.

Did you read the rest of my post? Even if covid disappeared tomorrow, the vulnerable will still be vulnerable to other diseases endemic in the population - flu, chickenpox/shingles, even norovirus. Do we pay to keep those people just locked indoors, forever? Or do we multiply the £2bn a month by how many other diseases we need to test for to keep them "safe" plus paying all of those asymptomatic people to stay at home too? I was absolutely fine with it for alpha through delta, but Omicron is a mild variant - the global response to this whole pandemic has screwed with people's overall assessment of risk.

I'm CV myself and had two bad doses of the flu already this year (despite having the vaccine) through going to work, but we can't live like this forever.

Holothane · 21/02/2022 20:14

20 a box😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮I was thinking tenner at the most.

Franklin12 · 21/02/2022 20:15

What older unvaccinated people?. By now everyone has been able to choose to have a test. If you choose not to then that is on you. You cannot surely expect everyone else to fund and support this decision?

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 20:15

the labour party is now the party of the elite middle class liberals wanting this to carry on not the Tories.

Bizarre isn't it.

I still can't get over the fact that Labour were advocating for even longer school closures, in the full understanding of what that meant for the poorest in society.

GirlInACountrySong · 21/02/2022 20:15

@MalagaNights

Testing is no longer needed. Stay at home if you're ill until you're better.

Sick pay is the same issue as it was before.

No it's not

Covid related was not part of the RAG process at our place

Now it is. 3 sicknesses and you are on a disciplinary with potential job loss!

Franklin12 · 21/02/2022 20:18

Vaccine (not test)!

curlymom · 21/02/2022 20:19

@labyrinthlaziness

Always good to hear Whitty and Valance, both pointing out that next winter could be shite Sad
Just covering their backs as usual
LadyMuckOfCowshitFarm · 21/02/2022 20:21

There's a vaccine which prevents serious illness and death available to everyone

I find it incredible that at this point there are still people who don't understand that vaccines don't work as well (or at all, in some cases) for immunosuppressed CEV people.

Isolation ending is one thing, and yes, it's probably time for it. But taking away CEV people's ability to protect themselves is simply hideous.

Alexandra2001 · 21/02/2022 20:22

@TheKeatingFive

the labour party is now the party of the elite middle class liberals wanting this to carry on not the Tories.

Bizarre isn't it.

I still can't get over the fact that Labour were advocating for even longer school closures, in the full understanding of what that meant for the poorest in society.

Labour were calling for far more support for state schools and more still in poorer areas and for far more ventilation to keep schools open.

Unfair to pick a click bait headline and then judge them on that alone.

TravellingFrom · 21/02/2022 20:22

@EatSleepRantRepeat and the reason why CV people are still at risk even fo chickenpox is the reason why children are supposed to stay at home and not go out until the spots have scabbed off.

Or are you telling me that is out if the window too and any child with chickenpox can go and play at the park, go the supermarket etc… when they are still contagious?
I mean there is a vaccine for chickenpox right? Same thing then.

AnyFucker · 21/02/2022 20:22

NHS - fuck it, just spread it about

Nope. Not true.

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