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Original poster

The way the Tory government are acting now makes it feel like all the lockdowns were a waste of time

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Poetrypatty · 21/02/2022 17:24

Just lifting all the restrictions as if it was all a waste of time. It makes me feel like a mug for everything we went through, especially as they were having their parties and not even following the rules. I think it's bad for peoples mental health as well.

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tiredanddangerous · 21/02/2022 17:37

Every adult I know of who has had covid lately (and that's a lot - I work in a large secondary) has been very unwell with it. Compulsory isolation might be gone but that doesn't make any difference when you are too unwell to go to work anyway.

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 17:37

This is to save Boris Johnson's job

And what is it in the countries that are taking very similar steps?

CorrBlimeyGG · 21/02/2022 17:37

Having said that, lockdowns achieved the aim of reducing pressure on the NHS - which was all they could do, unless we closed our borders entirely like New Zealand.

The lack of restrictions since last summer has resulted in hospitals being so busy they've been unable to manage anything but covid. That means many people dying before their time.

This government will always put money before people. There can be a balance, but all they want to do is make their rich mates ever richer, and sod everyone else.

sashagabadon · 21/02/2022 17:39

We’ve had two years of restrictions and spent an absolute fortune that our children will be paying back.
Most other countries do not provide free lft’s , you have to pay for them. We’ve been lucky that we’ve had such a good testing system for so long.

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Poetrypatty · 21/02/2022 17:39

and what is it in the countries that are taking very similar steps?

Which countries are suddenly abandoning all testing and monitoring?

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AllThingsServeTheBeam · 21/02/2022 17:39

@tiredanddangerous

Every adult I know of who has had covid lately (and that's a lot - I work in a large secondary) has been very unwell with it. Compulsory isolation might be gone but that doesn't make any difference when you are too unwell to go to work anyway.
People should be able to make the decision. I wouldn't have been able to physically go to work but I worked from home. DP on the other hand had zero symptoms. Thank God he got paid. Not everyone is as lucky
Samcro · 21/02/2022 17:39

I wonder what will happen with care homes. At t moment they still have lots of restrictions in olace.

CorrBlimeyGG · 21/02/2022 17:39

Compulsory isolation might be gone but that doesn't make any difference when you are too unwell to go to work anyway.

Unfortunately it will mean those in the lowest income groups feeling they have to go to work however ill they are, as they need the money. Consequently they become more ill, and the consequences that go with it.

toomuchlaundry · 21/02/2022 17:39

@tiredanddangerous all my teacher friends have been poorly too with COVID. If no restrictions to children going into school with COVID will this get worse?

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Poetrypatty · 21/02/2022 17:40

Don't feel sorry for me or my nan or my friend on chemo. We are all for it

What- all for no testing and not having to isolate if you've got the virus? Why's that?

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AllThingsServeTheBeam · 21/02/2022 17:41

@Poetrypatty

Don't feel sorry for me or my nan or my friend on chemo. We are all for it

What- all for no testing and not having to isolate if you've got the virus? Why's that?

Because I know of some people who don't get paid if they don't go to work. My friend being 1! That's why. If they're not ill they should be allowed to go to work. They won't know they have it now anyway as testing is ending.
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Poetrypatty · 21/02/2022 17:41

Unfortunately it will mean those in the lowest income groups feeling they have to go to work however ill they are, as they need the money. Consequently they become more ill, and the consequences that go with it.

Likewise people won't be able to afford the tests. People can't afford food or heating ffs. They're not going to splash £20 for these, they just won't be able to.

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WindyState · 21/02/2022 17:41

@CorrBlimeyGG

Compulsory isolation might be gone but that doesn't make any difference when you are too unwell to go to work anyway.

Unfortunately it will mean those in the lowest income groups feeling they have to go to work however ill they are, as they need the money. Consequently they become more ill, and the consequences that go with it.

Exactly this.

All the people saying they are happy that people will now have to pay for tests and that support for self-isolation clearly aren't the people who are impacted by such measures.

lioncitygirl · 21/02/2022 17:42

The £20 a box - you know in most parts of the rest of the world - people have always have to pay for these right? Who did you expect to pay for them?the tax payer? And how long did you expect the restrictions to last? Forever? This is something we will now have to live with - like SARS. 🤷🏻‍♀️

toomuchlaundry · 21/02/2022 17:42

Do the other countries who are also getting rid of restrictions have the same demographic as us, the same level of deaths, similar health service, similar level of health amongst the population?

WindyState · 21/02/2022 17:42

self-isolation is ending

lioncitygirl · 21/02/2022 17:42

Denmark is pretty similar to us - similar restrictions being dropped etc.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 21/02/2022 17:43

@lioncitygirl

The £20 a box - you know in most parts of the rest of the world - people have always have to pay for these right? Who did you expect to pay for them?the tax payer? And how long did you expect the restrictions to last? Forever? This is something we will now have to live with - like SARS. 🤷🏻‍♀️
This. We are already fucked in this country. We can't afford the free testing. It's ridiculous!
TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 17:43

Which countries are suddenly abandoning all testing and monitoring?

I don't know of any other country that ever provided free continuous testing to begin with.

Norway has removed the requirement to isolate.

ROI is limiting PCR testing to over 65s and LFTs were never free. Which, in reality is removing the requirement to isolate as only those who pay for tests will ever know they have Covid.

Takingabreakagain · 21/02/2022 17:43

@Poetrypatty

They weren't meant to last forever. It's been 2 years! What do you want to happen?

People still to have access to testing and to sick pay, care taken about shielding people and the vulnerable. Ventilation in schools.

None of this comes for free. If we carry on like this it won't just be our grandchildren paying it back. The virus has mutated such that symptoms are mild. Yes some people will be sicker and some will die but unfortunately people are not immortal. The NHS can cope with and treat the number of sufferers. It now needs to focus on other illnesses. The harm caused by restrictions outweighs the harm from covid and has done for some time.
toomuchlaundry · 21/02/2022 17:44

Have these other countries vaccinated children?

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 17:45

Do the other countries who are also getting rid of restrictions have the same demographic as us, the same level of deaths, similar health service, similar level of health amongst the population?

I think they all have higher case numbers than the UK actually.

What they all have in common is that they have high vaccination rates, have passed the peak of their omicron wave and hospitalisations at the peak of the wave didn't threaten to overwhelm the hospital system - exactly like the UK.

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 17:46

Have these other countries vaccinated children?

Honestly, that's of very little relevance. It's vaccination rates in the over 50s that will determine the hospital system's ability to cope.

Indiana2021 · 21/02/2022 17:47

31Lazypuppy

Sick pay, work for a company who offers good sick pay, as plenty of people tried to do before covid. There are other illnesses other than covid

Jesus. Tell that to people on shitty zero hour contracts with minimal options.

I have no words Hmm

toomuchlaundry · 21/02/2022 17:48

@TheKeatingFive children vaccination rates might be important for schools

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