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The way the Tory government are acting now makes it feel like all the lockdowns were a waste of time

366 replies

Poetrypatty · 21/02/2022 17:24

Just lifting all the restrictions as if it was all a waste of time. It makes me feel like a mug for everything we went through, especially as they were having their parties and not even following the rules. I think it's bad for peoples mental health as well.

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HesterShaw1 · 21/02/2022 20:23

Lockdowns and many restrictions were pointless?

Ah yes, I seem to remember a few of us saying this at the time. I seem to remember we were shouted at and called eugenicists, murderers, selfish, granny killers etc.

Funny that.

LadyMuckOfCowshitFarm · 21/02/2022 20:23

@MalagaNights

Testing is no longer needed. Stay at home if you're ill until you're better.

Sick pay is the same issue as it was before.

Testing is needed for some CEV people.

I have to test daily. I have to be sure I don't have covid when I take my immunosuppressant drugs. I cannot afford £20 for a box of tests. There are hundreds of thousands of people like me.

What do you suggest we do?

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 20:25

Labour were calling for far more support for state schools and more still in poorer areas and for far more ventilation to keep schools open.

But what does 'more support' mean? They were calling for longer periods of remote learning which was an absolute shitshow for the least privileged, regardless of 'support' and they knew it.

HesterShaw1 · 21/02/2022 20:25

@TheKeatingFive

Labour were calling for far more support for state schools and more still in poorer areas and for far more ventilation to keep schools open.

But what does 'more support' mean? They were calling for longer periods of remote learning which was an absolute shitshow for the least privileged, regardless of 'support' and they knew it.

It means printing more money of course, silly!
MalagaNights · 21/02/2022 20:25

Tests cost £2 billion a month.

And as so many pointing out there are still apparently so many people who have died. So...we'd have to conclude mass testing is ineffective??

Let's spend £2 billion a month on something better then!?

Or not spend it?? I don't know where people think this money is coming from? It's coming from debt our children will be left with. Huge immense crippling debt.

We've got the vaccines and yet people still want restrictions. So...we'll conclude this vaccines don't work then??

Masks. And still it spreads...so...?? Masks don't work then??

Mass testing and still everyone is dying...so... doesn't work then??

It's weird how people argued that despite all the measures, people are still dying so what we need are more of the measures... which don't work...

Not Rational Thinking.

Blossomtoes · 21/02/2022 20:26

I think it’s likely to end up with us back in lockdown again.

Never happening. After Partygate nobody would pay any attention.

toomuchlaundry · 21/02/2022 20:27

For those saying lockdowns were pointless, why were they?

labyrinthlaziness · 21/02/2022 20:27

Tests cost £2 billion a month

If this is true (and I believe nothing Johnson says) then the procurement was terrible and the government have wasted an absolute fortune throwng money at private firms... again.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 21/02/2022 20:27

@LadyMuck it says that there is going to be free tests for some groups of vunreable people

TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 20:29

If this is true (and I believe nothing Johnson says) then the procurement was terrible and the government have wasted an absolute fortune throwng money at private firms... again.

Well, they're 3-5 quid a pop where I am and if millions are doing them very regularly, that's going to add up.

MalagaNights · 21/02/2022 20:29

Yes I think free tests still available for CV.

LadyMuckOfCowshitFarm · 21/02/2022 20:29

[quote AllThingsServeTheBeam]@LadyMuck it says that there is going to be free tests for some groups of vunreable people[/quote]
Symptomatic testing will be free. I need to test daily, even when asymptomatic.

LadyMuckOfCowshitFarm · 21/02/2022 20:30

@MalagaNights

Yes I think free tests still available for CV.
Only symptomatic testing for CEV will be free.
labyrinthlaziness · 21/02/2022 20:31

the labour party is now the party of the elite middle class liberals wanting this to carry on not the Tories

Yes wanting proper sick pay and rights for lower paid workers is so middle class Hmm

I'm not middle class, but I am in 'middle class' employment, and my sick pay is absolutely brilliant.

MalagaNights · 21/02/2022 20:31

Tbh I have no idea how much mass testing of 60 million would cost per month.
But I imagine it's rather a lot.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 21/02/2022 20:32

@LadyMuck well I am sure that your doctor's will fight the corner for anyone who has to test everyday. I'm immunocompromised and had to shield. I got covid and ended up with a chest infection. I just had to stop my drugs.

labyrinthlaziness · 21/02/2022 20:33

@TheKeatingFive

If this is true (and I believe nothing Johnson says) then the procurement was terrible and the government have wasted an absolute fortune throwng money at private firms... again.

Well, they're 3-5 quid a pop where I am and if millions are doing them very regularly, that's going to add up.

The figures are getting queried, but they will have been swallowed by many at face value.

If you still trust Johnson, that is fine. I don't believe anything the lying arse says.

The whole T&T contract was a massive bung to Tory friends, we paid many many times more than Germany for example.

labyrinthlaziness · 21/02/2022 20:34

@MalagaNights

Tbh I have no idea how much mass testing of 60 million would cost per month. But I imagine it's rather a lot.
Especially if you have to add in healthy profit margins for the private companies too.
Dimondsareforever · 21/02/2022 20:35

In the last 2 years we have learnt more about the virus, have better medical intervention and vaccines. Of course the last 2 years haven’t been a waste of time. We needed that time to get to where we are now. We can’t live with restrictions forever. We have to come out of them. Now seems as good a time than any other. Provided they keep the back up should a nasty variant appear …

Theluggage15 · 21/02/2022 20:36

These threads are always full of the tedious laptop class whining on. Well when people moaned about the terrible impacts on them of lockdowns and restrictions they were told not to be selfish and suck it up. So if you’re whining about restrictions ending, stop being selfish and suck it up.

Helpel · 21/02/2022 20:38

When you have a cold do you test to see if you have flu? No. You keep going until your symptoms worsen, then you think argh it's probably flu and they you stay home and go to bed. But the flu virus was passed around before you worked it out.
So going forward, when you have a cold, you won't test to see if you have covid. If you then go on to become ill and it's a strong possibility its covid, you'll stay at home and probably in bed.
Same same. Not sure what the problem with this is, and why people are desperate to test to find out it's covid, now that the death rate for covid is more in line with flu (or looking to be less deadly than flu)

labyrinthlaziness · 21/02/2022 20:38

wtf is the 'laptop class'?

Ogel · 21/02/2022 20:38

@labyrinthlaziness

wtf is the 'laptop class'?
Who knows Confused
TheKeatingFive · 21/02/2022 20:39

If you still trust Johnson, that is fine. I don't believe anything the lying arse says.

I don't take anything for granted with regard to Johnson, but on the face of it, it doesn't sound wildly off the mark, necessarily.

Especially if you have to add in healthy profit margins for the private companies too.

Well, do you think they'll be doing it for free?

This expectation of long term, free, asymptomatic testing is very odd to me. Other countries don't have this expectation at all.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 21/02/2022 20:40

@Theluggage15

These threads are always full of the tedious laptop class whining on. Well when people moaned about the terrible impacts on them of lockdowns and restrictions they were told not to be selfish and suck it up. So if you’re whining about restrictions ending, stop being selfish and suck it up.
I'm assuming I'm the 'laptop class' someone who worked from home?

I am disabled and cv and unless I WFH I wouldn't be working. I agree with the restrictions ending.

I don't agree with your wording at all