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Eating out alone as a woman

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Chocolattay · 21/02/2022 00:35

I’m not judging anybody who eats out alone, I think it should be normal and the stigma is pathetic. But people on Mumsnet only speak positively about it. I had a terrible experience of it and surely it can’t have been unique to me, as the stigma exists. Or is it really me?

I was in London for an important appointment a few years ago, and I had the whole day to kill. It was my first time ever in London and I didn’t want to settle for a crap Big Mac or Burger King for lunch when I could have that at home, so I went to a hippy bohemian bistro type place in SoHo. I had to talk myself into it. I’d eventually convinced myself it’d be fine and thought they probably got loads of business people in alone anyway. But it was fucking awful. Even though I had specifically said table for 1, they didn’t seem to grasp that. I was waiting an hour just to order a drink. I’d make eye contact with the waiter but he’d just smile awkwardly. Eventually I spoke up and asked to order when he was rushing past. He asked if I was waiting for anybody. I said no. He looked like he’d seen a ghost ffs. He was actually quite rude to me in the service afterwards, and blunt. As if he’d decided there must be something wrong with me for me to be alone. It was horrible.

I vowed never to do it again. Weirdly enough I’ve done it a couple of times post-baby with baby in tow and haven’t felt awkward at all. It’s like the mere presence of a pram is going to be proof to people that I can’t be that weird if somebody has had a baby with me, therefore I’m ‘allowed’ to eat out alone.

DH does it regularly though and says nobody has ever battered an eyelid, which makes me wonder if it’s a gender/misogyny thing. It’s fine for men to enjoy their own company but women should always have a group of ‘girls’ to chat with? Is that what it is? Or am I massively overthinking it?

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JunkIsland · 21/02/2022 18:06

@latetothefisting - yes, this is pretty much what I was trying to say less eloquently. I do a lot of stuff on my own, but it’s not really the norm and I’m aware that many people wouldn’t dream of going to the cinema or a restaurant or alone. It’s great to see so many women on here doing it, but it’s not something I see day to day and people have made comments that suggest they view me as an oddity. It does help to get older and less self-conscious I find.

latetothefisting · 21/02/2022 19:35

I just remembered one hotel chain where the website had a section for solo female travellers who were nervous - it specified they would do things like hand you your room key face down and not say the number, not put solo female travellers in a room at the far end of a corridor, and if you wanted to use the restaurant just ask and they would seat you in a quiet nook/alcove. All quite good ideas in fairness but for some reason the last one just tickled me and my colleague "A single lady! Travelling without a male escort! Quick hide her in the alcove!" Whenever we went anywhere we would msg each other saying "Have they stuck you in a cranny?" "How is your little lady niche?" etc.
Personally I like sitting by a window so I can people watch!

FelicityFlops · 21/02/2022 19:51

The only times, I have ever had a problem as a woman alone, were in Thai restaurants. Perhaps they thought I was going to steal their "custom"? This was at lunchtime.
Apart from that I have eaten across Europe in Michelin* places and tiny, backstreet establishments without issue.
I think you just may have been unlucky.

luxxlisbon · 21/02/2022 19:59

I think a lot of this perceived treatment over being alone was just in your head. I’m often out and about on my own for work or travelling and I’ve never thought twice about eating alone. I see plenty of other people eating along and I don’t understand the women vs man argument either.

MrsHamlet · 21/02/2022 20:03

I took myself out for a very nice meal last week. No one batted an eyelid until breakfast when the waitress kept giving me the side eye and finally asked if I'd like to order or was I waiting for my friend?

crosstalk · 21/02/2022 20:43

I used to travel solo a lot for work abroad and I'm ancient.

I had nothing but help from waiters and maitre d'. They understood I was alone even in tiny bistros. They knew I was happy eating and reading a book.

However I do find English pubs odd at my venerable age especially rurally. My DH can walk in to a strange one, talk about beer, football or cricket or rugby and soon he has someone to talk to.

Bouledeneige · 21/02/2022 21:37

I can't imagine waiting an hour before ordering a drink. Didn't you catch his attention and ask to order before that? And order both food and drink at the same time? I've eaten hundreds of meals on my own in the UK, US, Ireland, Australia, Jamaica, Sweden - you name it. Lunch or dinner. But I don't start out either with the assumption that it's odd or that it's out of the ordinary. Because it's not. Especially lunch.

I just went on holiday to the Caribbean on my own for a whole week!

tintodeverano2 · 21/02/2022 22:43

Can't believe you sat there for an hour! I would've walked out!

I've eaten alone many times, never had a bad experience, but then I'd say something if I had bad service.

The only bugbear is sometimes you get a really crappy table near the loo or the kitchen, but apart from that it's always been fine.

Bryonny84 · 21/02/2022 22:52

You waited an hour without a drink or anything? Well you should have said something. I would have left after 10 or 15 minutes. It's not all on you though, the waiter should have been right up there after you sat down offering a drink. Poorly trained waiter, if trained at all.

I have travelled the world alone, eaten alone, been alone and yes, sometimes a woman on her own is seen as odd and for other people "uncomfortable". Not for me though. If I get crap service I leave, whether it's Sydney or Sydenham.

DiddyHeck · 21/02/2022 23:03

@Aquamarine1029

Come on now. You're making this sweeping decision based on one fuckwit server who clearly had zero manners, no proper training, and no common sense. Your experience is not typical.
Exactly this ^^. Plus it's very unusual in any restaurant not to be shown the drinks menu pretty quickly. It's one of the ways they can ensure people actually stay there if they assume they're waiting for someone who's late.
Grasping · 22/02/2022 09:30

As I said up thread

this was all about the waiter, not you

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