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Been asked to change my name by Ex's partner!

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justustwoandmoo · 16/02/2022 17:12

I have been separated from my ExH for 4 years, divorced for about a year. He has been with his new partner for about 3.5 years. I'm settled, everyone happy, no conflict and my daughter goes 50/50 between us. All good.

BUT I have never changed my name because I don't want to have a different surname to my daughter. Also, I just can't be bothered with the hassle tbh. I see it as my name and my identity really. It would be strange to go back to my maiden name now.

My ExH is looked to get remarried and he's contacted to say that his partner would be more comfortable if I changed my name back so that she can adopt her married name.

My brain can't quite decide if I'm being unreasonable by refusing? I just don't want to change my name 🤔🤔

OP posts:
CandyLeBonBon · 16/02/2022 20:09

@HeadNorth

YANBU - you didn’t borrow his surname, you took it. It is now as much your name as his. In fact, you could have a hissy fit the new wife plans to use ‘your’ name and ask her not to. That would be just as logical ie utterly bonkers.
Oh do this for shits and giggles op!!Grin
ChocolateMassacre · 16/02/2022 20:10

@timeisnotaline

I’d probably reply ‘ok, if you could fill out and sign name change forms for dd to my maiden name so I can submit them together? Let me know when I can have those. Thanks’
I'd say this. And they'd also have to pay for everything to do with the name change.

If my name changed, my DC's name would change too.

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 16/02/2022 20:11

@SoupDragon

Ah but people do this to women all the time, in real life and on mumsnet, in the name of "tradition". So much social pressure on women to change their surnames after getting married, even in 2022. And for women who don't change their surnames after marriage, or have children and are not married, there seems to be an automatic expectation that the children have the father's surname and not the mother's

Equally, on MN people are constantly telling women what their name should be by telling them not to change it and belittling those that choose to change. Just like you've done in your post.

To the two opposing positions above, I can respond from the experience of a woman who didn't change my name on marriage and was surprised at some of the pushback this provoked. I thought nobody would give the slightest toss what I called myself; an expectation deriving from my mistaken assumption that sticking to the legal default and using my own family name was a lot more commonplace than it now seems it is. We married in 2008 and in my profession it was and is more common to retain your own family name. I was very wrong on all counts.

Strangers in business transactions wouldn't know I was married unless particular computer systems demand marital status and title together. The shit I've been given when I preferred not to use 'Mrs' really does defy belief. Outright rudeness is the last response I'd expected to receive on this score in the 21st century.

When I book something for me and DH in my name nearly everyone assumes in the first instance that 'Dr' is him. We regularly grin about it, but no denying it's casual sexism at work.

On the point of earning the 'Dr' title, I never intended to use this outside the workplace as I thought it pretentious. That was before I married and faced this Miss/Mrs/Ms shit all the time. It's now my default - because it neatly circumvents a conversation I can't be arsed to have.

After nearly 14 years, despite being requested not to, my MiL STILL persists in addressing me as Mrs Hisname.

I was told by an acquaintance 'Well, I RESPECT my husband!' Well, my husband and I respect each other. So much so - and I resisted the petty temptation to point this out out - that we were still married to each other.

There's been other stuff that's mostly gone over my head, but the title thing as well as the assumption that women have a 'maiden' (UGH!) name pisses me off far more than what other women do or don't choose to call themselves. The above examples haven't been a daily occurrence, but these are things I've not-infrequently heard over the space of nearly a decade and a half.

In sum, it is far easier for women to do what convention expects of them rather than step outside of it or act individually, even in so small a way as to express our own personal preference of identity.

Crackers - but here we (still) are.

BestZebbie · 16/02/2022 20:13

I only changed away from my married surname when I remarried - ex-H was very surprised as he was hoping to totally erase me from history to avoid any awkward questions about why the marriage ended, but I wasn't keen to be complicit in that.
This request makes me feel that the new GF is also hoping for some erasure, which is especially harsh as it isn't only against you but the creation of your shared child.

11stonesomething · 16/02/2022 20:17

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BuddhaForMary · 16/02/2022 20:17

@HeadNorth

YANBU - you didn’t borrow his surname, you took it. It is now as much your name as his. In fact, you could have a hissy fit the new wife plans to use ‘your’ name and ask her not to. That would be just as logical ie utterly bonkers.
Hahaa yes do this 😂
Velvian · 16/02/2022 20:18

I'm Mrs ExH-DH, as I'm an absolute mug. However that is now my name, I haven't been with ExH for nearly 20 years and he is an awful person. It has been my name for longer than it hasn't and it is the name of my Ds1. No way would I change it now.

ilovesushi · 16/02/2022 20:18

It's your name. Not for the second wife to be to dictate what you should be called.

billy1966 · 16/02/2022 20:21

@Alicenwonderland

I completely agree with you, it's much better to have the same surname as your children. Maybe suggest that you change your surname to your maiden name and the kids too, see what he says to that! 😜
This.

Or ask him is he on drugs?

The cheek.

KneadingKitty · 16/02/2022 20:21

Only change it if you want to. It's perfectly fine to want the same surname as your children. I certainly wouldn't be changing my name and all my documents to please the new wife and that's nothing to do with whether I did or didn't like them, I just don't think it's a normal demand.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 16/02/2022 20:21

@KirstenBlest

Keep your name as it's the same as DD's and because you don't want to.

Nothing to do with your XH's DP

This ^

His new wife can keep he own me if she doesn't want the same one as you.

Tell him you won't object to this.

Sideswiped · 16/02/2022 20:22

When I got divorced, I had been married for more than half of my life. It was my name. I didn't see why I should get used to a new one (anyone ever had their name called at a doctor's surgery or similar when they've suddenly realised it was their name that had been called?)
Like OP, I wanted to have the same last name as my dcs.
I didn't want to go through the rigmarole of changing my name on bills, bank account, etc.
Also, professionally, I had been known by that name for a long time.
For those that think differently, good for you. It doesn't make my (or OP's) feelings about this invalid.

MintyFreshBreath · 16/02/2022 20:22

She’s a weirdo although my husband’s ex-wife was exactly the same. She actually phoned him up sobbing the day after our wedding saying ‘I can’t be Mrs Smith now that mintyfreshbreath is’ (name changed obviously) DH just said he didn’t care whether she kept it or not and neither did I. She went back to her maiden name in the end 😂

sHREDDIES19 · 16/02/2022 20:23

What about if you change both yours and your dd’s surname to your maiden name? Problem solved right?!

affairsofdragons · 16/02/2022 20:24

Tell him you'll be happy to change if it he's happy to sign the paperwork to simultaneously change your/his daughter's surname to match your new one.

That should shut him up pretty quickly.

FKATondelayo · 16/02/2022 20:26

Just point out Tina Turner, Demi Moore and Susan Sarandon still have their first husbands' surnames 30 years+ after divorce.

It's not 'their' name it's YOUR name and they have no right to it.

UniversalAunt · 16/02/2022 20:26

What matters is continuity for your daughter, that her father’s new marriage does not change her place in the world.

Her step mother - although she is used to her etc - is an addition to her life, not an agent of significant change e.g. ‘my mummy now has a new name, does that mean she’s not my mummy any more? ‘type thing.

I’d treat this matter as a very very small red flag because it is unnecessarily daft, just quietly fluttering at the edge of your peripheral vision.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 16/02/2022 20:28

@Everydayimhuffling

People don't get to take back a name. He could always -shock, horror- change to hers if they want a different "married name" to you. It's yours now, not just his.
They can, but I think the law regarding name changes needs to be changed. If a woman gets married she can automatically change her passport etc by providing a marriage certificate, but AFAIAW I don't think a guy can. A guy I worked with got married and took his wife's surname because his was one he didn't like and didn't want any children to be made fun of because of it. He had to do it through deed poll.
ThanksItHasPockets · 16/02/2022 20:31

No option that involves a double-barrelled name is a good one.

The entire nation of Spain seem to manage alright.

Qwill · 16/02/2022 20:31

Message them to ask if she’d be willing to change her first name as you don’t like it and it makes you feel uncomfortable.

ivykaty44 · 16/02/2022 20:33

if id been asked this, then I would have taken the opportunity to suggest that I would willing change both mine and my dc name - so that we both continue to have the same name etc and then the second Mrs blogsclub can have her wish

alternatively why not change his name to hers and then they both have a second name that nots the same as yours

ivykaty44 · 16/02/2022 20:36

He had to do it through deed poll.

he did it by deed poll - doesn't mean he needed to

I was told to change my name back it had to be done by deed poll 0 but I didn't have to do that just took my decree absolute around and I guess the man can just take his marriage certificate around as a woman does, why would it be different?

Grandville · 16/02/2022 20:36

Has he responded yet?

cakewench · 16/02/2022 20:36

YANBU.

My mother hasn't changed her name back and she's been divorced from my father for 40 years. She went through the hassle of changing it the first time, then she had a child whose name is that name, why should she be strongarmed into changing it back by anyone else?

Some people really are insecure.

Itloggedmeoutagain · 16/02/2022 20:36

What's that expression so often used on here?.....
No is a complete sentence