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Did my friend try to scam me?

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didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 17:10

I’ll try and keep this as short as possible.. I live in a flat share with 2 girls, Chloe and Molly. Our contract states that we have to have a clean at the end of each year, also we are all moving out so need an end of tenancy clean.

Molly said that she would deal with arranging the clean, which cost £150, so £50 each. The clean was communal areas only, we have a hallway, bathroom and an open plan kitchen/lounge. On the day of the clean, Molly text us to say that the cleaners had been there for 6.5 hours, and we had only paid for 4 hours, so it would be an extra £60 (£20 each), I said this seemed excessive for what is basically 3 rooms.. but whatever, Molly advised that it was a deep end of tenancy clean so would take longer, fair enough. Once it was done, Molly sent over some photos, I noticed that there was a mans reflection in one of the photos but I just assumed maybe it was one of the cleaners, although they were wearing smart shoes which I don’t think cleaners would wear..

I got home later in the day and saw some litter outside our flat (cloths and empty bottles of cleaning stuff), When I walked in I could tell that the floors hadn’t been cleaned, and as I walked into the lounge I saw that all the furniture and everything was in completely random places.. it wasn’t even like they had tried to put stuff back in a logical place, the sofas were left in the middle of the room, the cutlery drawer left wide open and was a complete mess with it all just chucked in there, I found pasta and coffee pots in the boiler cupboard, the tv was left all unplugged and not where it should be etc, the whole place was a mess to be honest, if I hadn’t known that a clean had taken place I probably would have thought we had been robbed. Chloe and I spent an hour putting everything back in the right place and tidying up. I then looked round the rest of the flat, and the toilets looked like they had had bleach put in them, but no scrubbing or anything done, there were still marks on the floor that were easily washed off, the coffee table still had dust on it etc

I messaged Molly to say that the place was left in a mess and we’ve spent an hour putting stuff back in the right place and that the floors hadn’t been cleaned and said she should speak to the company about not paying the extra money we were charged and she got really defensive, saying that the floors were wet when she picked the keys up and she said ‘give them a break it was only £70 each’ which isn’t the point in my opinion ..

I then asked if she could send us the receipt for the clean, because our landlord would want to see it, so she sent me it and I then left a bad review on the companies trust pilot. The company responded to my review saying please can you contact us as we have no record of you, so I contacted them and gave them the name of my flatmate and our address etc, and they said they had no record of my address, so I sent them a copy of the invoice and they said that although the invoice had their logo on it, it wasn’t there’s as it was a totally different format to there invoices and the website written on the invoice wasn’t there’s, but was a dead site.

I messaged Molly to tell her all this, and she responded saying that her boyfriend who works at an estate agents had booked it through his work, so that would be why the company had no record of it… which doesn’t make any sense to me. She then said she would get her boyfriend to speak with them if we still want to complain. Just to double check, I went back to the company and gave them the name of Molly’s boyfriend and company he works at, and they said that no there was still no record and that they don't work with estate agents. I didn’t say anything more to molly because we are/were good friends and I didn’t want to be accusatory but I thought it was all pretty weird. Molly said she would ask her boyfriend to contact the company with our complaints and I kept chasing her for an update on this, each time she replied, it was clear that she had had no involvement in arranging the clean and hadn’t even been to the flat after it was finished.

Molly then sent me a screenshot of a message she received from her boyfriend saying ‘I’ve fucked up, we use a software to create all our invoices for cleans done on properties and I’ve mixed up your clean with another one that was done on the same day. Please apologise to her for me, and I’m going to try and get the money back from the cleaners as they want more business done with his company’

Again this makes zero sense to me.. because why would the estate agents be making invoices for cleaning companies, surely the cleaning companies would make their own invoices and send them to the estate agents. Anyway she then sent another screenshot where he said that the actual company was reimbursing us the full amount.

I find this all really bizarre, so I called up the correct company but they refused to speak to me and said I had to go through our ‘agent’ (mollys boyfriend), I then got my male friend to call up and the lady told him that a clean was done at my flat but only one room..

I am basically thinking, Molly paid for her room to be cleaned, then her boyfriend quickly ‘cleaned’ the rest of the flat, and they pocketed the money? Then once I kept on at them they panicked and just sent the whole lot back...

Sorry it’s long but what do you think..

OP posts:
Mamanyt · 18/02/2022 03:34

Good thing you're moving. Molly pulled a fast one.

Getupoffthesofa · 18/02/2022 03:51

You could print out all these comments and send them to her. Might make her realise how shameful her behaviour has been

expat101 · 18/02/2022 04:35

Time to let go of this person.

I would assist the cleaning company as much as possible because if it is the BF, he might be presenting fake invoices and diddling his employer and they want to maintain a professional standard to whoever they do legit business with.

We had a rental years ago, carpets were supposed to be cleaned and the matter went to the tribunal. The carpet cleaning invoice tenant presented was an old one from her employer with a different cleaning address....

But I have been an official number 2 on an invoice. Our neighbour started up a business, so she made herself 1 and I was her second delivery...

PiperPosey · 18/02/2022 05:06

@Getupoffthesofa Excellent idea! I wouldn't hesitate copying all of this. 100% agree with you.

didshedidntshe · 18/02/2022 07:55

@me109f

Unbelievable. Scamming friends is disgraceful, and Molly and boyfriend are filth for trying it on. How pathetic that they did not even do a professional job but left a badly done mess. I am glad you got all your money back.

I would have thought that 3 girls could have done a professional cleaning job yourselves, spending the best part of a day and a pile of cleaning materials cleaning the flat from top to bottom.

I asked the landlord if we could do it ourselves, but the landlord said no and needed to see a receipt unfortunately
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FancyAnOlive · 18/02/2022 10:13

Def a scam. Horrible! Also 6.5 hours for three rooms is ridiculous even if it is a deep clean. My cleaner does my whole house really well in 4 hours and it's got 4 bedrooms! Absolutely she has scammed you. You have done excellent detective work by the way, am impressed.

catface1 · 18/02/2022 11:26

Yes you need to send this whole post to her . She is not a good friend - she may be friendly to you - but this is not the same a true friend . A true friend would never do something like this! Maybe a true friend who was desperate for the money and too ashamed to tell you why ( perhaps debts / drugs /gambling ) could pocket the cash but even then they surely would have done a good job so as not to be caught out! Unless it's drug money, maybe they were stoned or worse and can't tell what's what anyway . I had an electrician once who was a junkie- thats another sorry tale, but suffice to say some people think they have done a great job when under the influence and it's actually total incomprehensible shite!

cannockcandy · 18/02/2022 14:53

Glad you got your money back but yes, you were definitely scammed and she tried to steal yours and your other flatmates money.
Make sure you cut her off. X

LovelyIssues · 20/02/2022 20:46

Yes, she's shown her true colours. What a shame

me109f · 22/02/2022 02:38

@PiperPosey I did the same thing with a small 1-bed flat I rented to be close to work. Cleaned it twice with total thoroughness, even the tops of doors everything. The landlady tried everything to find fault but there was nothing. The only thing that I did not do was the carpet which had been well hoovered but needed a shampoo. But it was old and far from clean when I had moved in a year earlier.

PiperPosey · 22/02/2022 02:53

@me109f The landlord told me he never seen someone leave an apartment that clean. I just could NOT afford to lose a penny from my deposit.
In fact she offered me a job to clean vacated apartments. She didn't realize I spend days cleaning every cupboard, closet...every inch of that place. It would cost her a fortune to pay me by the hour! Grin

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