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Did my friend try to scam me?

161 replies

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 17:10

I’ll try and keep this as short as possible.. I live in a flat share with 2 girls, Chloe and Molly. Our contract states that we have to have a clean at the end of each year, also we are all moving out so need an end of tenancy clean.

Molly said that she would deal with arranging the clean, which cost £150, so £50 each. The clean was communal areas only, we have a hallway, bathroom and an open plan kitchen/lounge. On the day of the clean, Molly text us to say that the cleaners had been there for 6.5 hours, and we had only paid for 4 hours, so it would be an extra £60 (£20 each), I said this seemed excessive for what is basically 3 rooms.. but whatever, Molly advised that it was a deep end of tenancy clean so would take longer, fair enough. Once it was done, Molly sent over some photos, I noticed that there was a mans reflection in one of the photos but I just assumed maybe it was one of the cleaners, although they were wearing smart shoes which I don’t think cleaners would wear..

I got home later in the day and saw some litter outside our flat (cloths and empty bottles of cleaning stuff), When I walked in I could tell that the floors hadn’t been cleaned, and as I walked into the lounge I saw that all the furniture and everything was in completely random places.. it wasn’t even like they had tried to put stuff back in a logical place, the sofas were left in the middle of the room, the cutlery drawer left wide open and was a complete mess with it all just chucked in there, I found pasta and coffee pots in the boiler cupboard, the tv was left all unplugged and not where it should be etc, the whole place was a mess to be honest, if I hadn’t known that a clean had taken place I probably would have thought we had been robbed. Chloe and I spent an hour putting everything back in the right place and tidying up. I then looked round the rest of the flat, and the toilets looked like they had had bleach put in them, but no scrubbing or anything done, there were still marks on the floor that were easily washed off, the coffee table still had dust on it etc

I messaged Molly to say that the place was left in a mess and we’ve spent an hour putting stuff back in the right place and that the floors hadn’t been cleaned and said she should speak to the company about not paying the extra money we were charged and she got really defensive, saying that the floors were wet when she picked the keys up and she said ‘give them a break it was only £70 each’ which isn’t the point in my opinion ..

I then asked if she could send us the receipt for the clean, because our landlord would want to see it, so she sent me it and I then left a bad review on the companies trust pilot. The company responded to my review saying please can you contact us as we have no record of you, so I contacted them and gave them the name of my flatmate and our address etc, and they said they had no record of my address, so I sent them a copy of the invoice and they said that although the invoice had their logo on it, it wasn’t there’s as it was a totally different format to there invoices and the website written on the invoice wasn’t there’s, but was a dead site.

I messaged Molly to tell her all this, and she responded saying that her boyfriend who works at an estate agents had booked it through his work, so that would be why the company had no record of it… which doesn’t make any sense to me. She then said she would get her boyfriend to speak with them if we still want to complain. Just to double check, I went back to the company and gave them the name of Molly’s boyfriend and company he works at, and they said that no there was still no record and that they don't work with estate agents. I didn’t say anything more to molly because we are/were good friends and I didn’t want to be accusatory but I thought it was all pretty weird. Molly said she would ask her boyfriend to contact the company with our complaints and I kept chasing her for an update on this, each time she replied, it was clear that she had had no involvement in arranging the clean and hadn’t even been to the flat after it was finished.

Molly then sent me a screenshot of a message she received from her boyfriend saying ‘I’ve fucked up, we use a software to create all our invoices for cleans done on properties and I’ve mixed up your clean with another one that was done on the same day. Please apologise to her for me, and I’m going to try and get the money back from the cleaners as they want more business done with his company’

Again this makes zero sense to me.. because why would the estate agents be making invoices for cleaning companies, surely the cleaning companies would make their own invoices and send them to the estate agents. Anyway she then sent another screenshot where he said that the actual company was reimbursing us the full amount.

I find this all really bizarre, so I called up the correct company but they refused to speak to me and said I had to go through our ‘agent’ (mollys boyfriend), I then got my male friend to call up and the lady told him that a clean was done at my flat but only one room..

I am basically thinking, Molly paid for her room to be cleaned, then her boyfriend quickly ‘cleaned’ the rest of the flat, and they pocketed the money? Then once I kept on at them they panicked and just sent the whole lot back...

Sorry it’s long but what do you think..

OP posts:
SpiderVersed · 16/02/2022 18:35

Wow, does Chloë know all of tis too?

What a tawdry amount to destroy a friendship over. Molly's an idiot.

Mummapenguin20 · 16/02/2022 18:36

I couldnt be her friend now

gettingolderandgrumpy · 16/02/2022 18:37

It just seems a very long winded way to scam someone. I mean they didn’t even do a good cleaning job , the fake invoices etc but people are strange . Well done for calling her out on it and getting your money back they clearly thought they could just fob you off .

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 18:39

@SpiderVersed

Wow, does Chloë know all of tis too?

What a tawdry amount to destroy a friendship over. Molly's an idiot.

Yeah Chloe knows, her and Molly aren't as close as Chloe only moved in a year ago
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billy1966 · 16/02/2022 18:40

Molly is an idiot.

She thinks Chloe and yourself are dumb.

She is absolutely a dishonest thief.

Be so glad you know.
Don't give her a second thought.

She has shown her character to be that of a thief.

As is her boyfriend.

No need to confront her.

However, I would definitely not be discreet about why you are no longer friends.

What a tawdry end to a three year friendship...for a couple of hundred pounds.

It tells you 100% how she viewed you, and who she is.

Avoid.
Flowers

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 18:41

@makingitalladdup

What does Chloe say about all this. I'm glad you're moving away from her and in with your boyfriend.
Chloe agrees with me about what's happened.. she isn't very close with Molly as only moved in a year ago and Molly didn't make a lot of effort with her
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Coyoacan · 16/02/2022 18:45

Glad you got yoru money but I'm so sorry you have lost your friend.

A neighbour and a friend of mine was also my cleaner for many years. Then I found out she was stealing from me. That was a few years ago now and it still hurts

cuno · 16/02/2022 18:46

She must feel incredibly silly ruining her friendship with two other women for the sake of a few quid that she could probably earn by picking up an extra shift or two, plus she hasn't even been able to keep the money anyway because you were onto her. Shown her true colours, hasn't she? Horrible of both her and the boyfriend.

SarahProblem · 16/02/2022 18:46

If you're in touch with Molly's family/wider friendship group I'd be annoyed/petty enough to tell everyone.

These things don't just happen once.

Glisil · 16/02/2022 18:47

Are you going to report him to his workplace? Because I would want to know if I was his boss. Disgusting behaviour like this should have consequences.

cuno · 16/02/2022 18:48

Also well done you for not letting this one lie, I think you're fab for the way you went about it. Most people would have just left it.

FlipFlapFlop123 · 16/02/2022 18:51

Regarding your end of tenancy clean you mentioned, I know I have definitely read somewhere that this isn`t a thing any more. I would check that out and you might have save yourself some money.

BakedTattie · 16/02/2022 18:52

Ditch Molly. She’s tried to steal from you.

What’s Chloe’s take on it?

caranations · 16/02/2022 18:54

INV0001? lol

billy1966 · 16/02/2022 18:54

@SarahProblem

If you're in touch with Molly's family/wider friendship group I'd be annoyed/petty enough to tell everyone.

These things don't just happen once.

Great point @SarahProblem, these things are not a once off.

What sort of person even comes up with something like this?

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 18:55

@DoctorManhattan

Definitely a scam.

I had a very similar situation some years back when I lived in a house share with 2 other guys, whom I considered friends. One of them had jealousy issues about a girl I was seeing and I could feel our friendship waning as he was often short with me and kept making sly comments. In our last week of tenancy I moved out early (work travel reasons) and handed my key back to the Landlord. The guys subsequently contacted me to say the oil tank needed refilled before we all left, they arranged to have it done and told me over the phone that my share was £xxx amount. It seemed high and I didn’t think we’d used that much oil but transferred the money to them anyway. Anyway I got back from travel a few days later and although I hadn’t planned to ever be in our house share again, I realised I’d forgotten something and had to go back for it. The guys were both working so I rung landlord who agreed to let me in at lunchtime for it. Nipped into the living room to get what I needed and there was an invoice for the oil lying open on the coffee table for all to see - it was substantially lower than they had said so I had effectively paid for theirs and also made them a nice little bit of profit in the process.

What followed was 2 weeks of excuses and finger pointing at the oil company and various other lies. I eventually threatened police and got my money back.

Wow wtf, did you ever have a feeling before that they weren't really good people? Looking back, There's been a few times where she's done or said really bitchy things and I've just pushed it to the back of my mind and told myself that's not who she really is but clearly I was wrong!
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Lilolily · 16/02/2022 18:59

Yeah, Molly isn’t your friend and her boyfriend should be done for fraud.

fromdownwest · 16/02/2022 19:02

There is scamming your mates, then there is drawing up a fake invoice, impersonating another company and obtaining money by deception.

Legally know as fraud.

Mumoftwoinprimary · 16/02/2022 19:09

I would send Molly the following:-

“Hi Molly, I thought about it and realised that the cleaning company just returning our money isn’t good enough. They obviously tried to scam us. They are disgusting thieves. If they tried to scam us then they probably steal from everyone. Imagine if it was a vulnerable person that they scammed?

I have tried to phone them to discuss and they will only talk to Jack. I think that we should request compensation for all the hassle they put us through. What do you think? Maybe £50. If Jack doesn’t want to have the difficult conversation then I’m happy to have it - he just has to tell them to talk to me. I am quite happy to tell them exactly what I think about thieves, how disgusting they are and how I wonder how they can sleep at night!

Best

Did she”

billy1966 · 16/02/2022 19:12

@Mumoftwoinprimary

I would send Molly the following:-

“Hi Molly, I thought about it and realised that the cleaning company just returning our money isn’t good enough. They obviously tried to scam us. They are disgusting thieves. If they tried to scam us then they probably steal from everyone. Imagine if it was a vulnerable person that they scammed?

I have tried to phone them to discuss and they will only talk to Jack. I think that we should request compensation for all the hassle they put us through. What do you think? Maybe £50. If Jack doesn’t want to have the difficult conversation then I’m happy to have it - he just has to tell them to talk to me. I am quite happy to tell them exactly what I think about thieves, how disgusting they are and how I wonder how they can sleep at night!

Best

Did she”

Do this.

Perhaps add, "these scamers need to be reported to the police. I can give the police Jack's number and his office address. I can't bear the thought of them scamming an eldey or vulnerable person"

Chimchiminie · 16/02/2022 19:13

@billy1966

What a tawdry end to a three year friendship...for a couple of hundred pounds.

It tells you 100% how she viewed you, and who she is.

Avoid.

Exactly

KylieCharlene · 16/02/2022 19:13

She THOUGHT you were stupid.
She knows now that you're not.
I bet she feels like a right idiot for trying to pull this off. There again, people like her probably don't feel in the same way as the rest of us.

LemonSwan · 16/02/2022 19:21

Wow, pretty shady behaviour

LoisLane66 · 16/02/2022 19:21

She's no friend and a liar to boot. I'd sack her. You don't need 'friends' like that...or, if you do, then you must IMO, be grasping at straws.

Opus17 · 16/02/2022 19:22

She needs ditched! Horrible person