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Did my friend try to scam me?

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didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 17:10

I’ll try and keep this as short as possible.. I live in a flat share with 2 girls, Chloe and Molly. Our contract states that we have to have a clean at the end of each year, also we are all moving out so need an end of tenancy clean.

Molly said that she would deal with arranging the clean, which cost £150, so £50 each. The clean was communal areas only, we have a hallway, bathroom and an open plan kitchen/lounge. On the day of the clean, Molly text us to say that the cleaners had been there for 6.5 hours, and we had only paid for 4 hours, so it would be an extra £60 (£20 each), I said this seemed excessive for what is basically 3 rooms.. but whatever, Molly advised that it was a deep end of tenancy clean so would take longer, fair enough. Once it was done, Molly sent over some photos, I noticed that there was a mans reflection in one of the photos but I just assumed maybe it was one of the cleaners, although they were wearing smart shoes which I don’t think cleaners would wear..

I got home later in the day and saw some litter outside our flat (cloths and empty bottles of cleaning stuff), When I walked in I could tell that the floors hadn’t been cleaned, and as I walked into the lounge I saw that all the furniture and everything was in completely random places.. it wasn’t even like they had tried to put stuff back in a logical place, the sofas were left in the middle of the room, the cutlery drawer left wide open and was a complete mess with it all just chucked in there, I found pasta and coffee pots in the boiler cupboard, the tv was left all unplugged and not where it should be etc, the whole place was a mess to be honest, if I hadn’t known that a clean had taken place I probably would have thought we had been robbed. Chloe and I spent an hour putting everything back in the right place and tidying up. I then looked round the rest of the flat, and the toilets looked like they had had bleach put in them, but no scrubbing or anything done, there were still marks on the floor that were easily washed off, the coffee table still had dust on it etc

I messaged Molly to say that the place was left in a mess and we’ve spent an hour putting stuff back in the right place and that the floors hadn’t been cleaned and said she should speak to the company about not paying the extra money we were charged and she got really defensive, saying that the floors were wet when she picked the keys up and she said ‘give them a break it was only £70 each’ which isn’t the point in my opinion ..

I then asked if she could send us the receipt for the clean, because our landlord would want to see it, so she sent me it and I then left a bad review on the companies trust pilot. The company responded to my review saying please can you contact us as we have no record of you, so I contacted them and gave them the name of my flatmate and our address etc, and they said they had no record of my address, so I sent them a copy of the invoice and they said that although the invoice had their logo on it, it wasn’t there’s as it was a totally different format to there invoices and the website written on the invoice wasn’t there’s, but was a dead site.

I messaged Molly to tell her all this, and she responded saying that her boyfriend who works at an estate agents had booked it through his work, so that would be why the company had no record of it… which doesn’t make any sense to me. She then said she would get her boyfriend to speak with them if we still want to complain. Just to double check, I went back to the company and gave them the name of Molly’s boyfriend and company he works at, and they said that no there was still no record and that they don't work with estate agents. I didn’t say anything more to molly because we are/were good friends and I didn’t want to be accusatory but I thought it was all pretty weird. Molly said she would ask her boyfriend to contact the company with our complaints and I kept chasing her for an update on this, each time she replied, it was clear that she had had no involvement in arranging the clean and hadn’t even been to the flat after it was finished.

Molly then sent me a screenshot of a message she received from her boyfriend saying ‘I’ve fucked up, we use a software to create all our invoices for cleans done on properties and I’ve mixed up your clean with another one that was done on the same day. Please apologise to her for me, and I’m going to try and get the money back from the cleaners as they want more business done with his company’

Again this makes zero sense to me.. because why would the estate agents be making invoices for cleaning companies, surely the cleaning companies would make their own invoices and send them to the estate agents. Anyway she then sent another screenshot where he said that the actual company was reimbursing us the full amount.

I find this all really bizarre, so I called up the correct company but they refused to speak to me and said I had to go through our ‘agent’ (mollys boyfriend), I then got my male friend to call up and the lady told him that a clean was done at my flat but only one room..

I am basically thinking, Molly paid for her room to be cleaned, then her boyfriend quickly ‘cleaned’ the rest of the flat, and they pocketed the money? Then once I kept on at them they panicked and just sent the whole lot back...

Sorry it’s long but what do you think..

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THEDEACON · 16/02/2022 19:23

Glad you got your money back but yes Molly definitely tried to scam you and Chloe

Tiddlywinkly · 16/02/2022 19:36

A weird amount of effort for relatively little monetary gain! Anyway you got your money back thankfully and found out her true colours.

Momijin · 16/02/2022 19:38

What a bitch! If I needed the money, I would suggest to my flatmates that I would do the cleaning for the cost of getting a cleaner.

The cheek to ask for extra and then do a shit job! At least if she had done a great job for what it would cost a professional, then fair enough.

Twilight7777 · 16/02/2022 19:39

Definitely scammed

MissAmbrosia · 16/02/2022 19:40

Surely you have an end of tenancy clean when you've moved out? The whole thing sounds a bit mad to me.

Walkingalot · 16/02/2022 19:41

Sounds like she was talked into this by her boyfriend, even so, that's awful behaviour. There are good and honest people in this world and maybe she was one of them until she met this creep. Good on you for being savvy enough to suss this all out and get your money back.

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 19:44

@Momijin

What a bitch! If I needed the money, I would suggest to my flatmates that I would do the cleaning for the cost of getting a cleaner.

The cheek to ask for extra and then do a shit job! At least if she had done a great job for what it would cost a professional, then fair enough.

Yep, and annoying thing is she earns more than both me and Chloe, and her boyfriend comes from a rich family
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rifling · 16/02/2022 19:46

Well done you for getting your money back although it hurts when you realise that someone you consider a friend is quite willing to scam you - been there and it was a rude awakening!

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 19:47

@MissAmbrosia

Surely you have an end of tenancy clean when you've moved out? The whole thing sounds a bit mad to me.
Yeah I missed out this bit because it's long and useless information, basically Molly is moving in with her boyfriend early and ending her tenancy early, whereas Chloe and I are waiting until the tenancy actually ends. Because of this, I didn't want to be in a situation where Molly moves out and doesn't have to contribute to the clean, so the landlord agreed to have the clean done now when Molly moves out and not at the very end of the tenancy
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MGMidget · 16/02/2022 19:50

I am wondering about his habits as an estate agent and whether end-of-tenancy cleans have been charged for using his ‘cleaning company’ invoices. Maybe he (and your friend) thought a well-practiced habit of his would also work on you?

whataboutbob · 16/02/2022 19:54

Are you all 3 still in the flat together? If so be very careful, don’t leave back cards etc hanging around, or anything with bank details, cash, valuables etc. If you have to leave them with a trusted friend/ parent When I flatshared as a student one flatmate went rogue under the influence of a sociopathic boyfriend, she tricked one other ( over trusting) flatmate in to revealing her PIN number and emptied her account. She then disappeared, dropping out of uni. It was really upsetting and weirdly I was so ashamed of the whole situation I told no one, as if it reflected badly in me to have lived with such a dishonest person.

whataboutbob · 16/02/2022 19:58

By the way, you sound pretty smart and clued up, well done!

Yuckypretty · 16/02/2022 20:05

That's awful. What are you going to do about your friendship?

IReallyLikeCrows · 16/02/2022 20:12

You've said you're going to stop contacting her after this. I'd also suggest that if she has the cheek to contact you that you ignore her. The friendship that you had can never be won back after she has attempted to steal your money and treat you like a halfwit.

It's entirely up to you what you do now that it's all pretty much done and dusted but if you decided to contact his company and let them know that they are employing a thief who committed fraud I really wouldn't blame you. If you're happy to just leave it be and move on with your life I'd go along with that too. I'm really sorry that someone who was supposed to be your friend did this to you and really glad that you're out of it now.

LadyEloise1 · 16/02/2022 20:13

Definitely send that message, particularly the bit about giving the police Jack's number so they can investigate the scam. Grin
What a rotten pair they are.
Has Jack done something like this before ?
It would be good that his employers were aware of his dishonesty. It might prevent someone more vulnerable being scammed. Sad
They were willing to ruin a friendship for a couple of hundred quid. Not the brightest are they ?

affairsofdragons · 16/02/2022 20:17

Scammers, the pair of them.

I'd actually report him to the estate agency he works for, frankly. Using his own company name with you to commit fraud.

billy1966 · 16/02/2022 20:19

Even more reason to send the text.

Plenty of money, but they both wanted to steal from Chloe and yourself.

Send the text.

Scare the absolute hell out of them.

Juliauns91 · 16/02/2022 20:28

Yes, that's what happened. Lying scammers.

Please remove your negative review from trustpilot or you will ruin that totally innocent business. You really shouldn't have posted that in a knee-jerk way before you had got to the bottom of what went on!

Catnipdelight · 16/02/2022 20:36

Wowwww. Nice work on finding her out though!! What a deceitful twat!

Luredbyapomegranate · 16/02/2022 20:37

It sounds like that yes. Get your money back, and block. How weird.

Flickflak · 16/02/2022 20:38

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TheHoptimist · 16/02/2022 20:38

All sounds a bit daily mail to me
Good luck

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 20:39

@Juliauns91

Yes, that's what happened. Lying scammers.

Please remove your negative review from trustpilot or you will ruin that totally innocent business. You really shouldn't have posted that in a knee-jerk way before you had got to the bottom of what went on!

I removed it as soon as I spoke to the company, before that I had no real reason to think that it wasn't them who had done a shit job
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MGMidget · 16/02/2022 20:39

I would be inclined to report it to the police because of the possibility he has dne this to others through the estate agency. If you report it to the estate agency they may investigate internally but then cover the tracks. Others may have been charged for end of tenancy cleans this way through his role as an estate agent.

Dibbydoos · 16/02/2022 20:50

Dodgy as F. Is Molly easily lead? What a cheapskate!

Honestly boggles tge mind at hoe little money can buy a person integrity!!!

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