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Did my friend try to scam me?

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didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 17:10

I’ll try and keep this as short as possible.. I live in a flat share with 2 girls, Chloe and Molly. Our contract states that we have to have a clean at the end of each year, also we are all moving out so need an end of tenancy clean.

Molly said that she would deal with arranging the clean, which cost £150, so £50 each. The clean was communal areas only, we have a hallway, bathroom and an open plan kitchen/lounge. On the day of the clean, Molly text us to say that the cleaners had been there for 6.5 hours, and we had only paid for 4 hours, so it would be an extra £60 (£20 each), I said this seemed excessive for what is basically 3 rooms.. but whatever, Molly advised that it was a deep end of tenancy clean so would take longer, fair enough. Once it was done, Molly sent over some photos, I noticed that there was a mans reflection in one of the photos but I just assumed maybe it was one of the cleaners, although they were wearing smart shoes which I don’t think cleaners would wear..

I got home later in the day and saw some litter outside our flat (cloths and empty bottles of cleaning stuff), When I walked in I could tell that the floors hadn’t been cleaned, and as I walked into the lounge I saw that all the furniture and everything was in completely random places.. it wasn’t even like they had tried to put stuff back in a logical place, the sofas were left in the middle of the room, the cutlery drawer left wide open and was a complete mess with it all just chucked in there, I found pasta and coffee pots in the boiler cupboard, the tv was left all unplugged and not where it should be etc, the whole place was a mess to be honest, if I hadn’t known that a clean had taken place I probably would have thought we had been robbed. Chloe and I spent an hour putting everything back in the right place and tidying up. I then looked round the rest of the flat, and the toilets looked like they had had bleach put in them, but no scrubbing or anything done, there were still marks on the floor that were easily washed off, the coffee table still had dust on it etc

I messaged Molly to say that the place was left in a mess and we’ve spent an hour putting stuff back in the right place and that the floors hadn’t been cleaned and said she should speak to the company about not paying the extra money we were charged and she got really defensive, saying that the floors were wet when she picked the keys up and she said ‘give them a break it was only £70 each’ which isn’t the point in my opinion ..

I then asked if she could send us the receipt for the clean, because our landlord would want to see it, so she sent me it and I then left a bad review on the companies trust pilot. The company responded to my review saying please can you contact us as we have no record of you, so I contacted them and gave them the name of my flatmate and our address etc, and they said they had no record of my address, so I sent them a copy of the invoice and they said that although the invoice had their logo on it, it wasn’t there’s as it was a totally different format to there invoices and the website written on the invoice wasn’t there’s, but was a dead site.

I messaged Molly to tell her all this, and she responded saying that her boyfriend who works at an estate agents had booked it through his work, so that would be why the company had no record of it… which doesn’t make any sense to me. She then said she would get her boyfriend to speak with them if we still want to complain. Just to double check, I went back to the company and gave them the name of Molly’s boyfriend and company he works at, and they said that no there was still no record and that they don't work with estate agents. I didn’t say anything more to molly because we are/were good friends and I didn’t want to be accusatory but I thought it was all pretty weird. Molly said she would ask her boyfriend to contact the company with our complaints and I kept chasing her for an update on this, each time she replied, it was clear that she had had no involvement in arranging the clean and hadn’t even been to the flat after it was finished.

Molly then sent me a screenshot of a message she received from her boyfriend saying ‘I’ve fucked up, we use a software to create all our invoices for cleans done on properties and I’ve mixed up your clean with another one that was done on the same day. Please apologise to her for me, and I’m going to try and get the money back from the cleaners as they want more business done with his company’

Again this makes zero sense to me.. because why would the estate agents be making invoices for cleaning companies, surely the cleaning companies would make their own invoices and send them to the estate agents. Anyway she then sent another screenshot where he said that the actual company was reimbursing us the full amount.

I find this all really bizarre, so I called up the correct company but they refused to speak to me and said I had to go through our ‘agent’ (mollys boyfriend), I then got my male friend to call up and the lady told him that a clean was done at my flat but only one room..

I am basically thinking, Molly paid for her room to be cleaned, then her boyfriend quickly ‘cleaned’ the rest of the flat, and they pocketed the money? Then once I kept on at them they panicked and just sent the whole lot back...

Sorry it’s long but what do you think..

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ChargingBuck · 16/02/2022 17:43

@SheilaWilcox

It may not be her. Her boyfriend might be the knob. How long has she been with him?
Even if it is the b/f, Molly went along with it. And then doubled & tripled down on her lies.

The b/f's employer would be remarkably unimpressed by his antics btw. Scamming 'friends' by pretending his employer is invoicing for made-up jobs is definitely Gross Misconduct.
ie instantly sackable, with no notice.

bluechinavase · 16/02/2022 17:44

What a horrible thing to have happened to you! You got your money back which is good but I imagine the breaking of a trust is a much bigger letdown. Leaves a sour taste

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 17:45

@WabbitsAndWeasels

I'm glad you got your money back from her, was it all of it or just the extra £20? I'd also be asking her to come clean as you know only 1 room was cleaned but only if you want this friendship to continue, if not I'd leave it. If it's a one time event and you aren't living together after this I could be persuaded to continue the friendship but only if I felt I'd been told to truth however no money would ever be exchanged between us again, not even paying for a round of coffee.
We got the full amount back, which I also find weird because if it was real, I'm not sure the company would refund the exact full amount? In terms of friendship, we've been friends for 3 years since living here, and were really really good friends at the beginning. But we have become less close since she has been staying at her boyfriends a lot of the time, and I haven't loved her attitude to some stuff recently.. I'm not going to have a big argument with her but I'm also not going to be making any effort now that we won't be living together.. atm I kind of feel like I know what she's done, and I get the feeling she knows I know
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Headabovetheparakeet · 16/02/2022 17:47

Just drop the friendship.

IntermittentParps · 16/02/2022 17:48

I assume and hope you're not moving in with her at your next place?

I'd contact the bf's employers about his dubious activities too. Invoicing for made-up jobs using the employer's details is not something they'd be happy to have him doing.

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 17:51

@IntermittentParps

I assume and hope you're not moving in with her at your next place?

I'd contact the bf's employers about his dubious activities too. Invoicing for made-up jobs using the employer's details is not something they'd be happy to have him doing.

No, she's actually moving in with her boyfriend and I'm moving in with mine!
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ExactlyThat · 16/02/2022 17:51

Yes. She has not your friend.

custardbear · 16/02/2022 17:57

What a cow! She's trying to make a buck off a mate and being really shitty about it - I'd be very cold to be honest. A friend did
Something similar and left for a round the world trip owning me £75 for a gym membership she said she'd cancelled,
Except it came off my account and just lied and lied about tx the money to me and I even had to ask
Her as we waved her off from the station - to which she replied 'oh don't ask me that now I'm going away, I'll pay you back soon' ... her mum ended up sending me a cheque and told me she was disgusted by her behaviour - I was a student at
The time with a mortgage, 20+ years ago so it was a lot of money

AngelinaFibres · 16/02/2022 17:59

You have your money back, that is excellent. She knows that you know she scammed you. That is also excellent (the knowing, not the scamming). I expect the majority of women on this site are older than you and your friends. I imagine most people will be advising you to walk away from her. I would not want someone like that in my life. You will never truly trust her again. If she says it was her boyfriends idea ,then she should have dumped him. If she is in your life, then he will be. That's not a good idea.

Phantom1 · 16/02/2022 18:00

If her boyfriend has scammed you, then he's done it through the estate agents he works for. They wouldn't best pleased. He could ruin their reputation. Who would want to buy a property from him?

Pegasushaswings · 16/02/2022 18:08

As long as you won’t get charged by the landlord, I’d drop the matter and her , she won’t admit it and you have got your money back. I’m not condoning what she did but you now know her for what she is, if you see her socially going forward, that’s one thing but I certainly wouldn’t be trusting her too much again.

TillyTopper · 16/02/2022 18:10

Yes, they are both scamming you imo!

Frankola · 16/02/2022 18:10

Get rid of Molly ASAP!

Beautiful3 · 16/02/2022 18:13

Yes she's scammed you. I'm glad you both got your money back. I would never trust her with money again.

TravellingFrom · 16/02/2022 18:13

Wow she went ti great length to try and scam you of £70… (because yes she did scam you)

Why on Earth would someone do that?

MyAnacondaMight · 16/02/2022 18:16

Yeah one or both of them scammed you. I can see how they maybe thought it wasn’t harmful: by deciding to do the clean themselves and falsifying the invoice then they’d be in the $$$ and you’d be no worse off than if a professional had cleaned. But then the clean took forever and they did a bad job, and it all escalated.

I would tell his employer everything. Call up the estate agents office and ask for a rectified invoice for the cleaning service organised by x, and complain about what a bad job was done.Wink

DoctorManhattan · 16/02/2022 18:17

Definitely a scam.

I had a very similar situation some years back when I lived in a house share with 2 other guys, whom I considered friends. One of them had jealousy issues about a girl I was seeing and I could feel our friendship waning as he was often short with me and kept making sly comments. In our last week of tenancy I moved out early (work travel reasons) and handed my key back to the Landlord. The guys subsequently contacted me to say the oil tank needed refilled before we all left, they arranged to have it done and told me over the phone that my share was £xxx amount. It seemed high and I didn’t think we’d used that much oil but transferred the money to them anyway. Anyway I got back from travel a few days later and although I hadn’t planned to ever be in our house share again, I realised I’d forgotten something and had to go back for it. The guys were both working so I rung landlord who agreed to let me in at lunchtime for it. Nipped into the living room to get what I needed and there was an invoice for the oil lying open on the coffee table for all to see - it was substantially lower than they had said so I had effectively paid for theirs and also made them a nice little bit of profit in the process.

What followed was 2 weeks of excuses and finger pointing at the oil company and various other lies. I eventually threatened police and got my money back.

Chimchiminie · 16/02/2022 18:20

Even the amount she claims it cost is preposterous. Firstly, it doesn’t take 6.5 hours to clean 3 rooms. It doesn’t even take 4 hours, unless it was really truly filthy. And even if it did, she was claiming the company charged £32+ per hour for domestic cleaning? What a load of crap. Is she that hard up that she needs to steal off her friends? Bizarre.

WouldIwasShookspeared · 16/02/2022 18:20

Yes, she tried to scam you and they panicked when they realised you weren't falling for it and might contact her boyfriends employers.

At least you aren't out of pocket and you know she's a thief.

SurferRona · 16/02/2022 18:25

Seeing the BF works for your letting or EA, he’s either fucked up as per the message, but the photo with the man’s reflection shows what’s actually happened here. Won’t you be letting his employer know? I’d want to know if someone in my team was this dodgy….

ThePlantsitter · 16/02/2022 18:25

What a weirdly effortful scam though. Not doubting it is one but seems there would be easier dishonest ways of getting 70 quid off you.

makingitalladdup · 16/02/2022 18:27

What does Chloe say about all this. I'm glad you're moving away from her and in with your boyfriend.

GreenTeaMom · 16/02/2022 18:29

I would report to his employer and they may even potentially take it to the police - using another companies logo to make a fake invoice is illegal. X

fromdownwest · 16/02/2022 18:29

Yeah, Molly should be an ex friend. If she is doing this now, she will carry on, and the lies get bigger, the money gets more, and so on.

Can her off for someone who isn't a money grabbing tw*t.

Cherrysoup · 16/02/2022 18:33

A sad end to a friendship, she’s an idiot for doing this as she has presumably lost 2 friends who know exactly what she’s done.

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