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Did my friend try to scam me?

161 replies

didshedidntshe · 16/02/2022 17:10

I’ll try and keep this as short as possible.. I live in a flat share with 2 girls, Chloe and Molly. Our contract states that we have to have a clean at the end of each year, also we are all moving out so need an end of tenancy clean.

Molly said that she would deal with arranging the clean, which cost £150, so £50 each. The clean was communal areas only, we have a hallway, bathroom and an open plan kitchen/lounge. On the day of the clean, Molly text us to say that the cleaners had been there for 6.5 hours, and we had only paid for 4 hours, so it would be an extra £60 (£20 each), I said this seemed excessive for what is basically 3 rooms.. but whatever, Molly advised that it was a deep end of tenancy clean so would take longer, fair enough. Once it was done, Molly sent over some photos, I noticed that there was a mans reflection in one of the photos but I just assumed maybe it was one of the cleaners, although they were wearing smart shoes which I don’t think cleaners would wear..

I got home later in the day and saw some litter outside our flat (cloths and empty bottles of cleaning stuff), When I walked in I could tell that the floors hadn’t been cleaned, and as I walked into the lounge I saw that all the furniture and everything was in completely random places.. it wasn’t even like they had tried to put stuff back in a logical place, the sofas were left in the middle of the room, the cutlery drawer left wide open and was a complete mess with it all just chucked in there, I found pasta and coffee pots in the boiler cupboard, the tv was left all unplugged and not where it should be etc, the whole place was a mess to be honest, if I hadn’t known that a clean had taken place I probably would have thought we had been robbed. Chloe and I spent an hour putting everything back in the right place and tidying up. I then looked round the rest of the flat, and the toilets looked like they had had bleach put in them, but no scrubbing or anything done, there were still marks on the floor that were easily washed off, the coffee table still had dust on it etc

I messaged Molly to say that the place was left in a mess and we’ve spent an hour putting stuff back in the right place and that the floors hadn’t been cleaned and said she should speak to the company about not paying the extra money we were charged and she got really defensive, saying that the floors were wet when she picked the keys up and she said ‘give them a break it was only £70 each’ which isn’t the point in my opinion ..

I then asked if she could send us the receipt for the clean, because our landlord would want to see it, so she sent me it and I then left a bad review on the companies trust pilot. The company responded to my review saying please can you contact us as we have no record of you, so I contacted them and gave them the name of my flatmate and our address etc, and they said they had no record of my address, so I sent them a copy of the invoice and they said that although the invoice had their logo on it, it wasn’t there’s as it was a totally different format to there invoices and the website written on the invoice wasn’t there’s, but was a dead site.

I messaged Molly to tell her all this, and she responded saying that her boyfriend who works at an estate agents had booked it through his work, so that would be why the company had no record of it… which doesn’t make any sense to me. She then said she would get her boyfriend to speak with them if we still want to complain. Just to double check, I went back to the company and gave them the name of Molly’s boyfriend and company he works at, and they said that no there was still no record and that they don't work with estate agents. I didn’t say anything more to molly because we are/were good friends and I didn’t want to be accusatory but I thought it was all pretty weird. Molly said she would ask her boyfriend to contact the company with our complaints and I kept chasing her for an update on this, each time she replied, it was clear that she had had no involvement in arranging the clean and hadn’t even been to the flat after it was finished.

Molly then sent me a screenshot of a message she received from her boyfriend saying ‘I’ve fucked up, we use a software to create all our invoices for cleans done on properties and I’ve mixed up your clean with another one that was done on the same day. Please apologise to her for me, and I’m going to try and get the money back from the cleaners as they want more business done with his company’

Again this makes zero sense to me.. because why would the estate agents be making invoices for cleaning companies, surely the cleaning companies would make their own invoices and send them to the estate agents. Anyway she then sent another screenshot where he said that the actual company was reimbursing us the full amount.

I find this all really bizarre, so I called up the correct company but they refused to speak to me and said I had to go through our ‘agent’ (mollys boyfriend), I then got my male friend to call up and the lady told him that a clean was done at my flat but only one room..

I am basically thinking, Molly paid for her room to be cleaned, then her boyfriend quickly ‘cleaned’ the rest of the flat, and they pocketed the money? Then once I kept on at them they panicked and just sent the whole lot back...

Sorry it’s long but what do you think..

OP posts:
HPIEX · 17/02/2022 18:34

Sounds like Molly is good friends with Charlie 🤣

Insanelysilver · 17/02/2022 18:41

Definitely something very fishy has gone on with this clean. It sounds as though they’ve just ripped off a logo and done it themselves.
I wonder if your DF was pressurised into it by the BF but it’s defo suspect.

AnnieSnap · 17/02/2022 18:46

Sadly, based on your account, Molly has scammed you and therefore, she is not your friend. What a horrible person she is!

Mandyjack · 17/02/2022 18:58

Sounds fishy to me, get your money back and consider if you still want her as a friend as she's obviously not the friend you thought she was. Maybe she's been manipulated by her estate agent boyfriend but he sounds dodgy too. What does your other flat mate think?

spongedog · 17/02/2022 19:04

I feel most sorry for the landlord. They had agreed to an early end of tenancy clean and - frankly if you have all been living there for several years - no matter how clean and tidy you all are - it will need a good clean - and they get a rubbish one. I guess now you and Molly have the funds to get a proper end of tenancy clean done as you are staying on.

Dnaltocs · 17/02/2022 19:07

Bye friend!

maybloss2 · 17/02/2022 19:34

I wouldn’t be looking to build any bridges with this girl. Whether her b’friend suggested it or not, she didn’t have to go along with it. She can’t be trusted. I hope you got the full amount back.

GatoradeMeBitch · 17/02/2022 19:37

She and her boyfriend scammed you. There was a man in the pic, it was him. She didn't hand the keys over to anyone else, did she? They decided to clean the place themselves and pocket the money which would have been fine-ish if they hadn't done a shit job and rinsed you for more money!

Focus on getting your money back for now. The soap opera can come after. Just keep texting her "has he sorted out that refund yet?" If she drags her feet, threaten to contact his company directly.

Middersweekly · 17/02/2022 20:34

I agree with everyone else. The boyfriend cleaned the flat badly and your flat mate and him tried to scam you and your other friend out of £140 and tamper the invoice. Are they really that hard up that they needed to rob their friends? At least you got your money back. I hope the bag review for the cleaning company has been taken down. They obviously didn’t expect you to delve so deeply into the matter and it backfired on them!

HedgingWithASledgehog · 17/02/2022 20:43

It's the extra £20 that gets me, like she felt she wasn't already scamming you for enough.

Scottsy100 · 17/02/2022 20:51

Oh you got completely rolled over there for sure

Yankey812 · 17/02/2022 21:25

seems a bit weird to go through so much for such a small amount of money I bet her boyfriend is a professional scammer

k1233 · 17/02/2022 21:41

Maybe the extra 20 was to cover the cost of cleaning her room? May as well make it totally free for herself.

She's a scammer in the making. No one ever gets started scamming without a few failures. It's how they learn and perfect what they do.

cheekyasfish · 17/02/2022 21:46

Wow cheeky cow

Pinkfluff76 · 17/02/2022 22:18

What a con. Sorry OP. Also £150 for 4 hours is a very high hourly rate unless 3 cleaners which definitely wouldn’t be necessary for such a small place.

Payitforward55 · 17/02/2022 22:20

That is so bad. Some people have no shame. The boyfriend sounds like the type to boast about having money then leave the bar when it's his round!

ChaToilLeam · 17/02/2022 22:43

You got your money back, but I’d be shouting loud and clear to all what cheek scammers she and her BF are. And then be done with them.

me109f · 18/02/2022 02:22

Unbelievable. Scamming friends is disgraceful, and Molly and boyfriend are filth for trying it on.
How pathetic that they did not even do a professional job but left a badly done mess. I am glad you got all your money back.

I would have thought that 3 girls could have done a professional cleaning job yourselves, spending the best part of a day and a pile of cleaning materials cleaning the flat from top to bottom.

dipdye · 18/02/2022 02:26

Sounds like a lot do work though?

For not much money?

profile22 · 18/02/2022 03:05

That is a classic ‘dummy invoice number’. Which means it’s a made up invoice, and not real. I work in accountants, invoicing etc, and you’ve been scammed. The smart shoes on the male in the picture, is obviously her estate agent BF. End the friendship, she’s a thief.

PiperPosey · 18/02/2022 03:13

" May those who love us, love us.
And those that don't love us,
May God turn their hearts.
And if He doesn't turn their hearts,
May he turn their ankles,
So we'll know them by their limping. " Irish saying
.........................................
She limps..NOW you know.
And SHE knows that you know and so does Chloe.

MallampatiCatty · 18/02/2022 03:14

You've reminded me of a time I was also scammed by a housemate at university. She was training to be a healthcare professional, v diligent and hardworking and by all accounts a pleasant and friendly person.

Things went downhill quickly after we moved in together and she made me very uncomfortable. I must have had a sixth sense because before I moved out, I took photos of every bill I could find. Soon enough, she contacted me saying I owed her for this and that. She was adamant I owed her a fairly substantial sum and I played along asking for proof of such bills. Nothing materialised. I eventually forwarded her photos of the bills I'd taken before moving out. She actually owed me money (£10ish, I was never going to chase it). Her cage was so rattled by the proof of the sums of money (that she'd absolutely made up when asking me for it!) she actually did transfer it. Shameful behaviour, it unnerved me for a while.

I'm sorry you were scammed by your friend. Excellent sleuthing skills though Thanks

PiperPosey · 18/02/2022 03:23

I just wanted to add...MY BFF in the entire world bought a $800 couch and a $250 refrig. from me 20 years ago. ( they were new and I moved in with my BF who had couch and ref.already) She said she would pay me $20 a week for them. She had a fabulous job and they were very high end furniture.
She never paid me a penny for them. Never mentioned them to me again. No I'm sorry I'm broke...NOTHING.

It changed my feelings about her. I have always questioned her character since. When I would go into her home and see these pieces I would just cringe inside. She may have forgotten about it...but trust and believe I haven't. It doesn't consume my life. Your post just woke the memory up for a minute.

PiperPosey · 18/02/2022 03:26

@me109f I thought the same. To get my deposit back I took the light bulbs out of the lamps and cleaned them. I left the place spic and span! Better than it looked like when I moved in!

TigerLilyTail · 18/02/2022 03:27

I'd draw a line under it. She isn't a friend and it's likely her boyfriend does this a lot.

Just never ever trust either of them again.