To think fully grown men shouldn't need to pee in the street

[Madmaxxy]

I've just had the joy of looking out of my front room window to see a man had pulled his car up (into private spaces that are designated for the flats on our road) and relieved himself into the space. I saw everything

For context we are not rural! It's a long residential road that runs parallel to a main road, which is opposite the centre of town. Busy with cars and pedestrians, and opposite a long row of houses like mine. This was also less than a metre from the pavement, so a poor unsuspecting pedestrian would behave got an eyeful.
I also know that that space belongs to a family with three young children and he's just filled it with his piss in broad daylight.
So AIBU to think a fully grown man should at least be able to hold it until they get to a McDonald's or something.

@ineedsun

This clearly sounds like someone who’s doing it because they can but those people saying there are options are naive to the reality of some medical conditions which can link to incontinence.

Containers, pads etc aren’t always an option and there may be times when someone is adjusting / getting used to their continence problems. There may be occasions when someone is catheterised and there is a problem with it meaning that they either deal with it immediately or be covered in pee.

Those people saying there are never excuses have a limited life experience and should probably refrain from making sweeping statements.

I worked for years in a clinical area where long term continence issues are commonplace.

Just like women having episodes of flooding in public are unfortunate and embarrassing, pissing or having faecal incontinence is embarrassing. I have every sympathy.

Pissing in public as a continence management method is still never acceptable. Pissing yourself in public is different and is sometimes unavoidable.
Sympathy from passers by is expected in those cases.

ineedsun
Plenty of women have medical issues as well and we don't routinely see women weeing in the street.

I don't doubt for one minute thay occasionally a medical issue causes causes urgent situation, but I don't believe that these happen with such regularity that 'but what if he has a medical issue' is an appropriate way to explain away what is usually a man exercising his perceived right to pee anywhere.

There was man pissing up against the wall on a train platform last week as I stepped off the train onto the platform. At 6pm!!! It does irk me that it does always seem to be men that just piss up against anything and everything in public places.

(It was on a busy, zone 2 London platform in rush hour too)

There's a sort of derelict path with a broken gate opposite my flat & I see men pissing in it regularly, fucking disgusting tbh.

@Abigail12345654321

If you genuinely worked in such an area and dealt with incontinence I’m very surprised that a) you are erroneously referring to it as a continence management method as opposed to what some people are describing which is urgent unavoidable situations which happen because the continence management methods are ineffective, b) you’re referring to it as piss / pissing, c) you’re referring to people who are struggling to manage their continence as ‘dirty’.

@LolaSmiles

ineedsun Plenty of women have medical issues as well and we don't routinely see women weeing in the street.

I don't doubt for one minute thay occasionally a medical issue causes causes urgent situation, but I don't believe that these happen with such regularity that 'but what if he has a medical issue' is an appropriate way to explain away what is usually a man exercising his perceived right to pee anywhere.

No one is saying that it should ‘explain it away’ every time, or denying that some people do it because they can. What I’m saying (I can’t speak for everyone) is that the way people are talking in sweeping statements about ‘men’ and incontinence is out of order because genuinely at times someone might have a medical issue. Incontinence is often a source of huge shame and attitudes like those expressed on here are compounding this, that’s not OK.

It's actually illegal. Take a photo. Photo of the car reg. they could trace him. It's indecent exposure. Bastard

Prostate problems are vvvv common as you get older. As you get older you can not wait. Yabu.

@Abigail12345654321

I’m torn as to whether to report your responses to @Juliauns91 because they’re bang out of order but the fact that you haven’t even read their post properly before telling them how awful they are for not sorting their DH’s continence out, lest people think he’s dirty, probably undermines it enough anyway.

Absolutely disgusting. Women with continence problems manage to find an alternative,
Where I used to live a few years ago there was a bus terminus next to a small wooded area. The amount of times I came out of my house for the school run to see a bus driver nonchalantly strolling back to his parked bus zipping his trousers up. And it wasn't even just one driver, several different ones.

No one is saying that it should ‘explain it away’ every time, or denying that some people do it because they can. What I’m saying (I can’t speak for everyone) is that the way people are talking in sweeping statements about ‘men’ and incontinence is out of order because genuinely at times someone might have a medical issue. Incontinence is often a source of huge shame and attitudes like those expressed on here are compounding this, that’s not OK

Incontinence is a sensitive subject, but it's very telling about the way society works that a man is weeing in a residential area and the whataboutery started in the first couple of replies.

We don't see women crouched down a metre from a pavement on a regular basis. In fact there's been some threads on here that are heartbreaking to read women's experiences of needing access to bathrooms and not being able to get there. Yet for some reason a man passing in a residential area near someone's house is met with but he probably couldn't hold it in... whatabout.... It's the default response to male behaviour far too often.

@londonrach by that logic it's ok for any old man to piss in the street with their dicks out by the pavement for all to see? What about old women? And if so then actually why is it usually young and middle aged men that do it? Not sure I've ever seen an old man peeing in public come to think of it

Jesus men really can do no wrong, judging by some of the replies.

Photo/video and local facebook group.

Plenty of women suffer from incontinence and don't just squat down for a piss wherever they feel like it.

My doorway is the first one off a busy main road and we constantly have men peeing in the doorway. Never caught a woman doing it but maybe upwards of 20+ men in the 5 years I've lived here and that's just the ones I've seen when I'm going in/out the building.

Public urination is not always itself illegal (depends on council by-laws) but it is anti-social and if people can see anything it can be criminal. Sometimes people can get caught short unexpectedly, but tbh, at least 9 times out of ten it happens, they could have held it in long enough to get somewhere else, or at the least find somewhere more discreet.

It's disgusting that so many posters have come along and said ah but what if he has a medical condition.. well so what? After my last c-section I had the bladder of a toddler but I still didn't piss in the street.

Directly opposite my house is quite a large grass verge and I've lost count of the amount of times my DC have been playing in our front garden and some bloke has stopped for a pee in plain sight. Last month I went out and there was a guy squatting to take a crap. It's foul. Children and dog walkers cut across that verge to get to the recreation ground. Not to mention why do they think it's ok to get their cock out in public??

I've taken men to task over it and they honestly have no shame. Most say 'you can suck it if you want' 😡

I'm a runner.

I've seen plenty of runners, male and female, urinating when caught short.

It is true it is more prevalent that it is men, but totally false to say its only men.

Is it right? Depends on the setting and the situation. Outside a primary school at playtime? Clearly not. Behind a bush in a rural environment? Why not?

In this situation, sounds like it is the wrong side of the line.

If a man and a woman are equally tall the woman's bladder will be a third the size of the man's bladder. However men and women need an equal amount of liquid a day. Women are more prone to urinary tract infections than men are. For these reasons, women need the toilet more often than men during the day. Yet it is men we see peeing in the streets, on shop windows, on parked cars or bikes.

In France, where this happens a lot it’s illegal.

They’re pure trash, OP. You’ll get women excusing it (as well as the men, obvs) but it’s male territory-marking — they’re literally pissing their entitlement wherever they feel like it.

@londonrach

Prostate problems are vvvv common as you get older. As you get older you can not wait. Yabu.

And what about pregnant women, post-partum women, post-caesarean woman, who all can potentially suffer from stress incontinence? They seem to manage not to pee in full view of everyone else.

There should be more public loos available for both sexes, so I do have sympathy for old men and women, but I don't see why it's seen as ok for men to pee publicly when women can't?

@JaninaDuszejko

YANBU, it's disgusting. A woman would never do this. It's got fuck all to do with a medical condition and everything to do with male entitlement. He was in the middle of a town, he could have found some public toilets.

100% THIS.

Haven't rtft yet so sure some people must have already said this but this gives me the absolute rage. Women are FAR more likely to have UT and continence issues than men but do we see women pissing in public when and where ever they like?

Of course we don't. It's a massive example of male entitlement and assuming their right to public spaces.