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Is it me? Am I unreasonable with DH ?

473 replies

ihavenamexhanedtoday · 15/02/2022 22:23

8 months pregnant and have a toddler at nursery.

Toddler has been sick for ages now. The last 4 nights or so, I've been up with toddler until the early hours, so getting only a few hours of sleep. Maybe 3 hours or so.

Then looking after toddler during the day. I have had a very difficult pregnancy with hyperemisis and feel sick a lot still. I also have other serious health issues, which mean I struggle physically at the best of times, but it's very hard when I am pregnant.

I'm just absolutely exhausted. DH works hard, shift type work. But seems to expect dinner when he gets home. I usually have something for him, nothing fancy. But he does complain often, like ' oh a steak ? I had steak for lunch today '... sometimes I don't have dinner for him and just get a takeaway for him.

This evening he had to wait 30 minutes for dinner to be ready and was moody about it. He also wasn't happy with what was served and it wasn't enough as well apparently.

Isn't that fucking ridiculous behaviour ? I told him that he cannot expect an a la carte menu right now and I'm doing my best. I forgot to mention I also have a full time job still from home. I also get toddler up and ready for nursery every day ( when toddler is well ) and do drop off and pick ups and sort dinner for toddler and bed time etc. As DH is at work. When toddler is unwell, I stay home.

Sorry but can he not understand that sometimes I don't have dinner ready ? I really try hard to have something available most evenings, but he always only remembers the times I don't have anything or when it's late or the same thing again etc. Isn't that just ridiculous ? Or is it understandable, as he works late etc ? He doesn't seem to appreciate that I'm trying hard. He says it's always an issue that dinner isn't available. But it's not even true.

YABU- he's out late working, so should have dinner ready

YANBU- he should cook for himself ( he does do that sometimes, but it's a massive deal and he begrudgingly does it. Like he thinks he shouldn't have to do that after a hard day at work ) he also makes a massive mess, so it's actually more work for me, because he never cleaned up properly.

OP posts:
Toanewstart23 · 16/02/2022 08:35

* Trust me, I do tell him and shout at him. But he told me to leave him alone and that I'm so difficult and nagging him all the time.*

This is the environment your children are in op

Pair of you need marriage counselling
Or
It needs to end

It sounds negative on every level

Lalliella · 16/02/2022 08:38

Fucking hell. What on earth have I just read? Your husband is off the scale for unreasonableness, what a selfish, entitled, misogynistic twat. So he has a penis which stops him cooking does he? He’s treating you like a slave OP. Tell him to get his own fucking dinner.

cherrysthename · 16/02/2022 08:39

I wouldn't even think about cooking for him. What would he do if he was single, starve? He needs to grow up but people rarely changes their ways in relationships.

I've given nuclear family a go a couple of times. I've found that useless men somewhat step up when co-parenting after splitting up. They are subpar as partners though.

Toanewstart23 · 16/02/2022 08:40

@cherrysthename

I wouldn't even think about cooking for him. What would he do if he was single, starve? He needs to grow up but people rarely changes their ways in relationships.

I've given nuclear family a go a couple of times. I've found that useless men somewhat step up when co-parenting after splitting up. They are subpar as partners though.

My ex

Very alpha and traditional

Post divorce - he’s totally stepped up. Brilliant with the children and ensuring they’re fed well etc

MopHeaded · 16/02/2022 08:50

What’s going to happen when your newborn arrives? Will he just carry on using the fact that he works (like most people do?!) to do nothing else? To not help with housework, shopping, cooking, caring fur his children, looking after you now & then?

Because as it stands, you’ll need to add recovering from birth and caring for a newborn to the already long list of things you do without any help (or even a bit of fucking gratitude!).

This sounds like a miserable life for you.

Thatsplentyjack · 16/02/2022 08:51

@Cherrysoup

I’d be buying ready meals, adding in boil in the bag veg. If he’s whinging about steak, he’ll never be happy. Wtaf?! Asshole.
I wouldn't be buying him anything. I would be telling him to get my fucking dinner bought and made for me. Lazy prick.
PiperPosey · 16/02/2022 08:52

Honey I burned my bra in the 70's ( although no one noticed) for you to recognize the fact that you are NOT a slave to your husband. Come on now woman buck up. You can do it.
Pretty soon you will have 2 babies and it will get 100x worse. A grown man can feed himself after he shops for the food. Feed you and your toddler and I wouldn't worry about him.

IamJob · 16/02/2022 08:57

I honestly just despair at all these posts. Of course you are pregnant with another child to this useless piece of garbage. Why are you pregnant again when he is such a crap DH. Why do woman have such low standards.

No YANBU.

Toanewstart23 · 16/02/2022 08:58

@PiperPosey

Honey I burned my bra in the 70's ( although no one noticed) for you to recognize the fact that you are NOT a slave to your husband. Come on now woman buck up. You can do it. Pretty soon you will have 2 babies and it will get 100x worse. A grown man can feed himself after he shops for the food. Feed you and your toddler and I wouldn't worry about him.
Grin
NellyDElephant · 16/02/2022 09:11

My DP also works 12hr shifts, and is out of the house from 0630 and therefore all the morning childcare is on me before work, I get 4 DC ready, and off to school for them & work for me. I come home and feed the DC at 5pm, do some laundry and tidying up. DP comes home - from his 12hr shift - and cooks for us, every night without fail. He also does all the food shopping on his days off, all the DIY, all the gardening, all car maintenance and every day empties bins, empties dishwasher and puts it all away, in the correct places, loads washer, unloads washer, hangs laundry, folds laundry, puts away laundry. Guess what, he also gets loads of sex too - because he’s a great partner, we help each other, and this contributes towards the overall love and attraction I have for him. This is in stark comparison to your situation OP - but you could have this too!!!
But first, You need to LTB, it’s not going to get better with him!

Kennykenkencat · 16/02/2022 09:14

So when he complains, I try harder. Cos you know, he does work hard and is never home.. and needs my support

It is quite clear he doesn’t need your support The only thing he needs is you to run around after him, easing his way through life and doing everything.
That is not support.

Even my mum calls me sometimes and is surprised if I haven't cooked for him. We always had to rush back to have dinner on the table for my father too. All hell would break loose if dinner was big on the table. God forbid we were doing a nice mother daughter activity. Everything revolved around getting dinner ready for him

I think this is going to be a harder habit to break but you need to realise you are not your mother and your lives are not the same.
I am sure if your Dh went out to work each day and you were home and your only job was looking after dc and the house, putting together a meal each night it would be no problem but you are 8 months pregnant and work full time with an ill toddler and haven’t slept properly for nights. Even without the sickness it is too much to ask.

If your Dh isn’t happy with something you do like making dinner then stop making dinner. It quite clearly stresses him out to have had steak for lunch and dinner.
You aren’t happy because you have cooked when feeling tired and unwell, he isn’t happy you have cooked the same thing that he has had for lunch.
No point in both of you being unhappy. Might as well put your feet up. He is going to moan whatever you do so stop doing it.

ISmellBurnings · 16/02/2022 09:16

Can we copy this, again…

I’m copying and pasting this incredible post from another thread. It cannot be repeated enough on Mumsnet. Unfortunately, I can’t recall the original author.

(This post is specifically geared at women in heterosexual relationships.) Ok ladies, we need to talk.

Every few weeks there's a post that makes the admin team spend a day debating if we should say something or not. These posts are always on the same theme; husbands who are not pulling their weight.

Well, after just reading a post from this week were a whopping 4 HUNDRED of you commented in solidarity with the OP I've decided today is the day we say something.

Household chore inequity and child care inequality is a form of domestic abuse. It forces women to work themselves into exhaustion and illness, whilst men buy their free time with female exhaustion.

No one wants to see themselves as being in an abusive relationship. It means acknowledging that someone you love, someone you married or committed to, someone you chose to have children with is taking advantage of you and that hurts on so many levels.

it's heartbreaking to acknowledge, but acknowledge it we must.

If your husband or partner is capable of working at their job without being micromanaged and given extremely explicit instructions, then they are capable of contributing fairly at home without being given extremely explicit instructions and micromanaged. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they were capable of living independently without living in a rat-infested pigsty without any clean clothes and living off pizza, then they are capable of ensuring children are fed and clothed, groceries are done, and household chores are shared equally. If they act like they are incapable they are gaslighting you.

If they claim they love you and yet your health comes secondary to their leisure, they're gaslighting you.

If they claim they can't possibly function and it would be unsafe for them to work with broken sleep, but it's totally fine for you to have to work, drive and do all the household chores and childcare on broken sleep, they're taking advantage of you.

If they say they are going to get up in the night and help but when the time comes the pretend to be asleep/complain, they're gaslighting you.

If they don't even actually try to settle the baby and had bub back almost immediately with "they just want you:", they're gaslighting you.

If your health, sanity, sleep, work, or self-esteem are suffering because you are the one doing everything, whilst they leverage your exhaustion into their free time, they're abusing you.
Like other forms of abuse, it will not get better on its own. It's not an accident.

So please ladies. Please stop laughing it off as "just men"

It's not just men. It's purposeful.

It might not be consciously purposeful, but it is still purposeful. They know they can get away with it.

one of you being on antidepressants because your husband won't help raise the children he fathered is one too many. 400+ of you being exhausted to the brink of PND and breakdowns is heartbreaking for us to watch.

You can't fix this by night weaning. Or sleep training. Or bedsharing, or chore charts, or even kicking hubby into the spare room. There are only two things that will fix this - therapy, or leaving.

I am sorry

BoodleBug51 · 16/02/2022 09:20

Everything the above post says.

WIth bells on.

You won't fix him, lovely, you just need to get rid of him. Your life will become easier overnight.

gigantaraffe · 16/02/2022 09:24

What the fuckkkkk. Op omg you are worth more than this!!

RedToothBrush · 16/02/2022 09:27

This is not the 1950s.

Why is it a problem if he has to wait 30 mins for his dinner?
Why is he not doing any child care?
Why is he ungrateful that he had the same for lunch?

More importantly, why are you enabling this and putting up with it?

You are his wife not his servant.

Refuse to do it anymore. He's giving you extra work you don't need. He doesnt respect you and he doesn't care about you.

The only thing he does do is pay for things, and child maintainence will do that just fine - minus the abuse.

1Micem0use · 16/02/2022 09:29

Your life would be easier as a single mother.

bucketsoflove · 16/02/2022 09:33

You're not going to change this man, or get him to see that he's being unreasonable. He knows that, he's a misogynistic bully.

So you have to decide what you're going to do about your situation- for you and your DC.

Accept this life, recognising that it won't get any better and will probably get worse with two young DC to look after.

Or leave him because you deserve a much better life than this.

Neither will be easy but one offers a brighter future. Good luck OP.

Peachy7 · 16/02/2022 09:33

Unfortunately if you have always catered to his every whim, why would he expect it to change?. My aunt has been like this with my uncle for over 30 years, I would not put up with it, everything in a relationship should be equal.

diddl · 16/02/2022 09:35

If he's had steak for lunch why are you cooking in the evening?

My husband used to have a cooked meal in the canteen at work.

Never occurred to me to cook in the evening.

I'd just cook for myself & the kids at lunch!

He'd then cook at the weekends to give me a break from it even though I didn't go to work!

Your husband sounds awful.

Benjispruce5 · 16/02/2022 09:39

YANBU
When I was in your situation, at home pregnant with a toddler, i normally had a meal ready. DH ALWAYS was/is grateful for any meal cooked for him. If I hadn’t, he would walk in and ask what I would like and start cooking. Stand up for yourself or nothing will change.

lockdownalli · 16/02/2022 09:40

OP you keep saying things like "he doesn't understand" or "he just doesn't get it" but he does. He does understand.

he just doesn't give a fuck.

You are there for his convenience and to meet his needs. When you ask him to help meet your needs you are met with a wall of anger and resentment.

It is a shame your mum lives abroad as it makes it harder to just fuck off and live with her once the new baby is born. I would definitely be making plans to leave though. Your life would be so much happier and easier without this misogynist shitbag in it. Flowers

appleturnovers · 16/02/2022 09:42

Your husband is a useless lazy c* who is making you ill and he needs to be made aware of that fact.

Phobiaphobic · 16/02/2022 09:47

This is not an attack, OP, but I am really struggling to comprehend how a woman living and working in the UK in 2022 can possibly think this disproportion in your domestic life is remotely acceptable. Were you brainwashed into thinking women were just supposed to do everything? How on earth did you find yourself in this situation?

It goes without saying that your husband is a total arsehole. Please leave him and find someone who believes women deserve equality and respect.

BoredZelda · 16/02/2022 09:49

I've been trying to get through to him for so long about all this and it just doesn't work. When he does stuff it's always bearing a grudge too.

What are you here for? You know his behaviour is wrong if you've tried to get him to fix it, you're continuing the relationship, adding to your family anyway, what do you expect MN to do? What advice do you want, other than to leave him?

Toanewstart23 · 16/02/2022 09:50

@NellyDElephant

My DP also works 12hr shifts, and is out of the house from 0630 and therefore all the morning childcare is on me before work, I get 4 DC ready, and off to school for them & work for me. I come home and feed the DC at 5pm, do some laundry and tidying up. DP comes home - from his 12hr shift - and cooks for us, every night without fail. He also does all the food shopping on his days off, all the DIY, all the gardening, all car maintenance and every day empties bins, empties dishwasher and puts it all away, in the correct places, loads washer, unloads washer, hangs laundry, folds laundry, puts away laundry. Guess what, he also gets loads of sex too - because he’s a great partner, we help each other, and this contributes towards the overall love and attraction I have for him. This is in stark comparison to your situation OP - but you could have this too!!! But first, You need to LTB, it’s not going to get better with him!
To be fair Your DH has a LOT to make up for! (I remember you randomly from a past thread)