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Aggressive MIL still wants me to facilitate contact with my 6 month old

337 replies

DonnyBurrito · 15/02/2022 17:17

Sorry this is a long post, I didn't want to drip feed through comments.

My MIL has recently threatened me via a WhatsApp voice note sent to DP, calling me all the abusive names under the sun and saying how I need to be careful or she'd 'be paying me a visit'. This was due to an argument over WhatsApp I had with SIL, which was in no way aggressive on either of our parts, we just don't see eye to eye on things relating to my DS who is 6 months old. It was a disagreement that got heated, we were both a bit shitty to one another, and we agreed to not speak again for the forseeable. She then immediately ran off to her mummy to tell her we'd fallen out. MIL then proceeded to rant and rave at my DP all morning about how awful I am and how he needed to 'grow some balls' and 'make a decision', and then aggressively threatened me. I have her number blocked on my phone as I've found her way too stressful and demanding to deal with since having DS, otherwise I'm sure she would have contacted me directly.

I'd just like to say at this point that I don't have these kind of disagreements or fallings out with ANYONE else other than this particular family! They are all pretty unpleasant, and MIL has made many enemies over the years. I digress...

This isn't the first time she's sent abusive voice notes to DP. Just before Christmas she sent him 3 horrible voice notes, emotionally abusing him, calling him abusive names and threatening to smack him in the mouth. Not out of character for her, she's been awful to him since he was a child. She even admitted she thought he was a PITA as a baby. After Christmas she told DP that she doesn't give a shit about him, she just wants to see DS.

The constant breakdowns in our relationship with her always come down to her demanding that we bring our DS to see her, regardless of how inconvenient it is for us all, including the baby. She refuses to visit him at our house. We say no, we can't visit you today. She gets angry, DP gets angry, and I get stressed and wish I'd found a man with a nicer mum.

She has now said I'm not welcome at her house, which is obviously fine by me as I don't like it at her house anyway, but she still wants me to bring DS round to hers so she can see him. I'm the only one who drives at the moment, so I would have to drop him and DP off and then go hang around somewhere nearby and wait until I get a call off DP to come and feed him/pick them up. He still breastfeeds on demand for both milk and comfort - DS that is, not DP 😁

MIL will be supervised by DP obviously, but it feels very unnatural to leave my baby with a women who has threatened me and my DP and shown us nothing but disrespect since DS was born. I don't want to do her any favours by running my son around for her, and then disappearing off so she doesn't have to deal with me.

Also, her small house (1 bed bungalow) is always very chaotic and loud, with lots of people scrunched into the tiny front room, TV blaring and her older grandchildren running around screeching and not listening to any adults. The two times in the past I have taken DS round and left him there without me he's got very distressed, verging on inconsolable (he is never like this anywhere else), but MIL disagrees that it's because it's too loud with too many strangers, and that it's because I have babied him too much and he just needs to get used to the chaos.

DS spends 90% of his time with me, and sees his dad a few hours a day before he goes to work and then at weekend. He isn't as attached to his dad, so I don't want to leave him somewhere he has previously gotten very distressed, without being allowed in to comfort him myself.

So... AIBU?

YANBU - to insist on staying with DS if MIL wants to see him.

YABU - DP can look after DS fine for an hour or two on his own.

OP posts:
Justleaveitblankthen · 15/02/2022 17:32

It's a no from me. No fucking chance. What a nasty cow!
How dare she even think you would entertain the very idea?!
I would tell her to fuck off to the far side of fuck Angry

Your son is better off far away from her and you sound like a great mum Flowers

Auntieobem · 15/02/2022 17:32

Agree with pps

Why on earth do you want to facilitate contact between this woman and your child?????

TyrannosaurusRights · 15/02/2022 17:32

I’d ignore her. She wouldn’t be welcome in my house. I wouldn’t visit her, or drop my child to visit without me. If your DP wants to see her that’s his call but the rest, nope.

maddening · 15/02/2022 17:33

Don't facilitate anything

Cheeseonpost · 15/02/2022 17:33

I’m not going to vote as quite frankly YABU to even consider exposing your child to an abusive piece of shit

Justleaveitblankthen · 15/02/2022 17:33

2nd emoji fail sorry. Was supposed to be flowers 🙂

Leftbutcameback · 15/02/2022 17:33

I was waiting for option c too. What a toxic environment to take a small child into.

Theunamedcat · 15/02/2022 17:33

Go to the stately homes thread section whatever it is get the name of the book to free him from toxic parents get therapy for him because this isn't normal to want to subject your baby to abuse

Consider legal advice should you need to split up about protecting the baby from nanny

Also no don't drive him or the baby over there

Iloveacurry · 15/02/2022 17:34

She’s sounds like a right bitch. Does your DP actually wants to see his mother?

If I was you, I wouldn’t be facilitating any contact with my DS with her. If your DP can’t drive, there will no visits to his mother’s.

BlackCoffeeInAPoolOfSunshine · 15/02/2022 17:34

What's your child's father's take on all this? Is he begging you to help him facilitate contact between your mutual baby and his mother given he can't drive? Or would he be happy/ neutral about not bothering or actively refusing given his mother openly admits to not being interested in him and threatens to hit him?

Either way of course you shouldn't be feeling obligated to drop your baby off at the house of a relative who threatens family members with being thumped in the mouth!

My only concern would be how far into the Fear-Obligation-Guilt fog your child's father is, and whether he's illogically insisting that you should be driving him and your baby to his mother and hanging out outside.

Bonbon21 · 15/02/2022 17:34

You do not need this obnoxious woman in your life..... you sure as hell do NOT let her near your child.... EVER!!
No contact all the way...

Specialkp · 15/02/2022 17:35

@TurquoiseDragon

I'm not going to vote either way.

I vote for option C, cutting contact with MIL.

She makes threats to you and your DP, why on earth would you want your DS to have a relationship with her? She can demand you visit all she likes, but you don't have to go, and neither does your DS.

In fact, keep all the threats in case you need a restraining order.

I also vote for C. How horrible for you, sorry. I wouldn’t facilitate it.
sadpapercourtesan · 15/02/2022 17:36

Yeah, my mother expected similar when I finally called time on our "relationship". After the physical and mental abuse, the harassment, having to get the police involved to stop the hate mail/barrages of midnight calls/trying to snatch our 3yo from nursery....she wrote a snooty, high-handed letter requesting access to my children, threatening court action if we didn't comply, and suggesting "perhaps the children could come to us one Sunday a month". Yeah. No.

Stand your ground. She has no rights whatsoever over your child. Personally I find NC to be blissful, but it's up to you.

PermanentTemporary · 15/02/2022 17:36

Does she have any idea how abnormal it is to verbally threaten your family members? I assume not. I would not be happy to leave my tiny nonverbal baby with someone with such a skewed idea of how to behave. I think I'm usually pro doing work to keep family relationships going, but not at this price.

caranations · 15/02/2022 17:36

Christ. Over my dead body.

caringcarer · 15/02/2022 17:37

I think your DP needs to block her too. Don't run to.her command. No baby should be forced to get used to chaos. Go NC.

dementedpixie · 15/02/2022 17:38

I wouldnt be taking them there at all never mind leaving them there

Chloemol · 15/02/2022 17:39

Cut contact

Don’t let your DS go there ever

dementedpixie · 15/02/2022 17:39

So also C cut contact

LittleOwl153 · 15/02/2022 17:40

Why would you consider facilitating dropping a defenseless 6 month old baby off with someone who abuses both his parents and thinks he just needs to get used to it, and potentially a second adult who you disgree to the point of not speaking over parenting with - with the poor baby's only protection being his father who is so far stuck in the fog (fear obligation and guilt) that he cannot stand up for himself let alone the baby....

Nah tell her to bugger off. She can see him very occasionally by coming to your house on your terms when you are present - or not at all preferably!

Soubriquet · 15/02/2022 17:42

Don’t go round at all. She has no rights to your ds and I wouldn’t want her toxic attitude near my son at all

JustBlethering · 15/02/2022 17:43

You babied your baby too much? 🤣🤣🤣 gutting myself at that.
She sounds like a twat. I wouldn't be facilitating any sort of contact. If mil wants to see the baby then she can come to your house and be civil

Pixiedust1234 · 15/02/2022 17:43

Only read half your post but I vote C as well. Neither you nor the baby go near her. Up to DH if he wants to see his mum but he goes via public transport. You don't want to run the risk of her violence/nastiness when dropping him off in your car. Suggest DH gets counselling though.

Keep copies/screenshots of all abusive texts yourself, don't rely on DH to keep them.

Hadalifeonce · 15/02/2022 17:44

OP, I wouldn't even contemplate this woman spending any time with my DS, with or without me.

To be honest I am surprised your DH is still interested in any contact with her,

TTstormtrooper · 15/02/2022 17:45

@IWentAwayIStayedAway

Or plan c you dont facilitate anything
Yup. Its not officially DPs problem. He gets himself there and works out how to feed DS himself whilst he's there.
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