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Virginia Guiffre and Andrew settle out of court

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Suzanne999 · 15/02/2022 16:15

From Metro
Prince Andrew and Virginia Giuffre have reached a ‘settlement in principle’ in the civil sex claim filed in the US, court documents show

Does this show his guilt? Water down in some way his actions? I’m sure some will say this proves she was only in it for the money. I think she and a lot of underage girls were abused but because of the wealth involved those guilty will never face justice. Can’t understand why I feel sad about this outcome.

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Roussette · 16/02/2022 16:43

They don’t have a duty to do anything of the sort

And therein lies the problem.

Total opacity on finances

No accountability even with a Sovereign Grant every year.

You couldn't make it up

TheKeatingFive · 16/02/2022 16:45

They don’t have a duty to do anything of the sort.

It would be in their own interests naturally. It's pretty damaging for people to be running away with the idea that the Queen stumped up a seven figure sum from lord knows what income stream, if that's not true.

Queenie and her advisors are smart enough to clock that

mathanxiety · 16/02/2022 16:49

It would be smart to take on the case pro bono because this is a high profile case.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60303921
I am right that Giuffre's lawyers are working pro bono.

Perhaps there is personal interest in the plight of sexual abuse survivors. Perhaps it's because they don't need the money.

BlanketsBanned · 16/02/2022 16:50

Maybe PA has been given an advance on his inheritance

mathanxiety · 16/02/2022 16:53

The trial might still go ahead, btw - Judge Lewis Kaplan has to sign off on the settlement and it is possible he will throw it out.

ABitBesottedWithMyDog · 16/02/2022 16:54

@mathanxiety

It would be smart to take on the case pro bono because this is a high profile case.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60303921
I am right that Giuffre's lawyers are working pro bono.

Perhaps there is personal interest in the plight of sexual abuse survivors. Perhaps it's because they don't need the money.

There's a lot of money to be made from these cases (as this case shows).

They will definitely earn back their "lost" cut in advertising. Can you make out half a case against a duke, a banker, a socialite? Who are you going to call?

Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 16:58

@TheKeatingFive

How much do you think a team of top lawyers, cross-Atlantic, covering US law etc would cost?

I'm not actually buying that a woman with no case whatsoever requires 12 million to go away.

And I don't think I'm entirely alone there.

This. If you really can get a payout of £12 million by accusing an innocent man with no evidence, lots of women would be doing this. I mean I met Prince Andrew once. So where is my £12 million payout?
Virginia Guiffre and Andrew settle out of court
Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 16:59

@TheKeatingFive

They don’t have a duty to do anything of the sort.

It would be in their own interests naturally. It's pretty damaging for people to be running away with the idea that the Queen stumped up a seven figure sum from lord knows what income stream, if that's not true.

Queenie and her advisors are smart enough to clock that

People are saying that because we know Andrew does not have enough money for this. So the obvious source has to be family. Who else would give him £12 million pounds?
Blossomtoes · 16/02/2022 17:06

Who else would give him £12 million pounds?

Someone very rich with something to hide who was afraid it might come out in court? There’s more than one very wealthy American who could be implicated.

Wonnle · 16/02/2022 17:12

The fact someone's bottled it and now the case is not going to court is really odd after all the build up hype .

It's not about the money apparently though mmmmm........

Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 17:14

No it will be his family. They have lots of money and can easily pay out to make this go away. The last thing they would have wanted is Andrew testifying in court.

mathanxiety · 16/02/2022 17:16

@ABitBesottedWithMyDog, yes, this is definitely a high profile case, one of many he has worked on.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Boies

Sigrid McAuley:
Sigrid has been a leader in the legal fight on behalf of victims of sex predator Jeffrey Epstein and his co-conspirators. Her pro bono work contributed to the arrest of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Jean Luc Brunel, and resulted in a successful resolution of claims for numerous Epstein victims she represents. Sigrid is presently representing pro bono a group of ballerinas in their efforts to hold their abusers accountable on sex trafficking charges.

Committed to public service, she has served for the past 10 years on the board of directors for ChildNet, which manages the protection of over 3,000 neglected and abused children in South Florida, and she presently serves on the Board of Directors for Jack & Jill.
www.bsfllp.com/lawyers/sigrid-s-mccawley.html

MarchCrocus · 16/02/2022 17:44

There's more than one very rich person who would much rather Andrew settled this instead of having his day in court.

VanGoghsDog · 16/02/2022 18:36

@mathanxiety

It would be smart to take on the case pro bono because this is a high profile case.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60303921
I am right that Giuffre's lawyers are working pro bono.

Perhaps there is personal interest in the plight of sexual abuse survivors. Perhaps it's because they don't need the money.

Yes, her case.

I assumed you meant PA's defence as it was him we were talking about in the post you replied to and quoted.

Blossomtoes · 16/02/2022 18:39

@MarchCrocus

There's more than one very rich person who would much rather Andrew settled this instead of having his day in court.
Quite. There will be men who see him as the fall guy.
derxa · 16/02/2022 18:42

Quite. There will be men who see him as the fall guy. Yes he's a very greedy stupid man who fell into a well sprung trap.

feelsobadfeltsogood · 16/02/2022 18:47

@AndAsIfByMagic

It was always going to happen.

They pushed and pushed until it threatened to ruin the Queen's jubilee to get maximum payout.

Evidence that the photo was fake has been around for a while.

He was a lecherous old goat but, even if he did have sex with her, she wasn't underage.

She's still being used and abused by men but now they are lawyers.

Let's hope that's an end to it.

I couldn't have put it better myself!
Roussette · 16/02/2022 18:56

Evidence that the photo was fake has been around for a while

Where?

I have given a link on here saying definitely that is not the case.

testerwiki · 16/02/2022 19:02

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TatianaBis · 16/02/2022 19:03

Victoria Hervey is touting a very badly photoshopped photo as the ‘real’ one. Is she being paid by Andrew? I don’t know. As GM is on record as saying: “I think it’s real, it looks real”, it’s all somewhat pointless.

BlanketsBanned · 16/02/2022 19:11

testerwiki, what do you mean posters won't be able to hide behind their logins forever?

AlDanvers · 16/02/2022 19:13

You won't be able to hide behind your logins forever!!

Wtf?

Blossomtoes · 16/02/2022 19:16

Wow, where did that come from?

AuntMasha · 16/02/2022 19:24

@TatianaBis

Victoria Hervey is touting a very badly photoshopped photo as the ‘real’ one. Is she being paid by Andrew? I don’t know. As GM is on record as saying: “I think it’s real, it looks real”, it’s all somewhat pointless.
The photo that Hervey is pretending is the real one is a pathetic, transparently chopped about piece of digital manipulation, so I don’t know what she’s trying to prove. In fact Hervey in general has made it her business to victim-blame these girls, calling 15 year olds ‘slags’ and ‘whores’. She excelled herself today on Twitter by attacking Virginia Guiffre’s weight gain and appearance. The woman is lower than a snake’s belly.
derxa · 16/02/2022 19:43

The photo that Hervey is pretending is the real one is a pathetic, transparently chopped about piece of digital manipulation, so I don’t know what she’s trying to prove. In fact Hervey in general has made it her business to victim-blame these girls, calling 15 year olds ‘slags’ and ‘whores’. She excelled herself today on Twitter by attacking Virginia Guiffre’s weight gain and appearance. The woman is lower than a snake’s belly.
I think the photo is fake.

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