Virginia Guiffre and Andrew settle out of court

[Suzanne999]

From Metro
Prince Andrew and Virginia Giuffre have reached a ‘settlement in principle’ in the civil sex claim filed in the US, court documents show

Does this show his guilt? Water down in some way his actions? I’m sure some will say this proves she was only in it for the money. I think she and a lot of underage girls were abused but because of the wealth involved those guilty will never face justice. Can’t understand why I feel sad about this outcome.

The Queen is the worlds biggest land owner. 6.6 billion acres to be exact. I’m sure she’s skint!

I have to say that I think she was motivated by cash with the encouragement of greedy lawyers with their snouts in the trough

I thought it was said her lawyers were working pro bono?
Or at least they were in her case against Epstein ...

@GreekGod

It's such a shame this didn't get to Court. It would have been wonderful to see him in prison. Clearly, he is just an awful disgusting useless man. I am glad the money is going to a charity.

He was never going to prison. It was a civil case.

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The Queen's personal wealth seems to be estimated around the £300m mark. More than enough in her coffers to help out.

@TatianaBis It was a civil case. If it went ahead it was about money, if it didn't it was about money. So "- No evidence that VG was simply after money" it was only about money, and can only have been about money.

and she settled with Epstein too - and he was definitely guilty. There is huge amounts of evidence this was about money.

Ok, that’s one down, now what about all the other men involved with Epstein? No way PA was the only one that can be identified…

He has paid out to stop more revelations. If he thought she could do no damage he would have seen it through.
It was always about money as it’s a civil case. VG has exposed him for what he is. His interview helped her.

He’s guilty as hell and she finally got paid for the services she provided 👍

I would have been more surprised if it had gone to court.
The whole situation is the shadiest cover up from Epsteins suicide, to Maxwells trial and now more mouths being zipped.

@pompey38

He’s guilty as hell and she finally got paid for the services she provided 👍

I don't think it sits right to say she got paid for the services she provided

He is so arrogant that, as a member of the Royal Family, he probably thought he was above the law and some strings would be pulled to make this all go away!

His interview with Emily Maitlis showed that he thought he could just spout rubbish and everyone would believe him. The cock and bull story about him “being unable to sweat” was laughable.

To then say that he had taken Princess Beatrice to a party at Pizza Express, on one of the dates, was even more unbelievable. Did he perhaps think that his daughter would lie to give him an alibi? If this had any truth in it, there would have been no shortage of witnesses. After all, surely at least some of the other parents, would remember him being there? It’s not as if they would be in the company of a Prince on a regular basis! That no one at all came forward to corroborate this piece of fiction, shows him for the liar he is.

He is no longer classed as a senior Royal, but if Prince Charles and his children and grandchildren somehow all died in an act of terrorism, or some other disaster, Andrew would still (god forbid) be next in line to the throne! He should be removed from the line of succession and banished from ever appearing in public again as a member of the Royal Family!

@Classica

Mummy got her cheque book out.

This

The queen isn't supposed to be paying his bills

She needs to go after Clinton and trump

@kmblark

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Why is everyone attacking @tickingthebox73? This is what she said:

If it did happen it's distasteful, but none of it (believe it or not) is criminal. VG was over the age of consent and the people to convict are Epstein and GM. PA is "just" at best a complete bloody idiot and at worst a slimy middle aged douche.

But she didn’t have to take the money, did she?

Surely if she was set on justice then money would not even come into it?

@kmblark - you clearly need to read what I've written again as that's not the conclusion I draw.

@Classica

Mummy got her cheque book out.

Liz?

@Leilala

But she didn’t have to take the money, did she?

Surely if she was set on justice then money would not even come into it?

The moneys going to victims of trafficking. If you can't get real justice you may as well make him sweat squirm.

@Sunbird24

Ok, that’s one down, now what about all the other men involved with Epstein? No way PA was the only one that can be identified…

Already paid one assumes... You have lots of high profile names on that list of Epstein's.

I'm reading it as the incidents happened.

Of course there will be a statement stating that the settlement is not an admission of guilt, and honestly I wouldn't know whether he knew VG was trafficked or not. I think sleazy happenings (at best) to be a certainty however.

He was never going to take the stand. He is a car crash of a man and whether guilty or not he would have just made things worse if he did.
I don't believe it was ever his intention to go to court. He was testing the water. She was trafficked by Epstein and Andrew was his friend despite him saying now that he wasn't. Andrews statement reads like the words of the lawyer not of Andrew
Andrew is not remorseful and I honestly don't believe he thinks he has done anything wrong.
He has always had everything he wanted.

@Blinkingbatshit

She doesn’t have the proof required (that photo really has a high possibility of being fake) & PA just wants it to go away at this point. Don’t get me wrong, PA is an odious, arrogant creep (he wasn’t nicknamed Randy Andy for nothing) but I’m not sure in this instance he can be accused of more than that and keeping very dodgy company (and having really bad judgement….ok, there are a few more things…). If she gives all the money to charity then that’s a great move pr wise for her.

^This is what I think.

He's an awful, sleazy man whose behaviour was very much celebrated at the time, but looking back, his behaviour was arrogant and lecherous. But I'm not sure that it's more than this and now we won't ever know, which is a giant shame.

And yes, pointing out that there were inconsistencies and a few issues with Virginia's side of the story isn't victim blaming. Also, PA's lawyers ask for the original photo to see if was tampered with and suddenly it's "lost" and there's a settlement announced.

if you've ever been a victim of sexual assault or grooming it's natural to be completely on Virginia's side but objectively, there are some things that don't stack up. It doesn't mean she's not telling the truth, but equally, it doesn't mean that she's been scrupulously honest either.

We'll never know what went on.

Do you think she won't personally see a penny of the money? I'm not so sure.

All I know is if my reputation was on the line I would do anything to get the truth out regardless of what it cost me personally, I would be chomping at the bit to get in a court of law to get the truth out if I were innocent, Either way I wouldnt want to go out for a meal with either of them, Him and Her make me a bit blegh to be honest! I dislike him but don;t like her much either!!!