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to ask if your older relatives don’t ‘get’ that you work?

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Knityourownyoghurt · 13/02/2022 18:21

My dad is in his 60s, has been retired for 10 years & before that was his own boss. However he seems to have totally forgotten what full time work is like. He phones mid afternoon on weekdays expecting a chat and doesn’t ‘get’ that I don’t have half an hour to natter.

MIL, who worked sporadically but never full time and not for many years after having children, offered to look after DD one day a week as she thinks full time nursery is ‘too much for little ones’. When we explained she would have to 100% commit to that day, she seemed confused, and said if something popped up and she couldn’t have DD we would just have to take the day off Hmm

Is this a ‘thing’ or just my relatives?!

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astoundedgoat · 16/02/2022 08:58

@lollipoprainbow

How lucky are you all to still have your parents bothering you, I wish I did.
I don't have my beloved Mum any more, and I am quite confident that she would be driving me around the twist now if she was still with us. Doesn't mean I love or miss her any less.
Novemberish · 16/02/2022 09:12

Yes to all of this. My friend is guilty of the teacher thing. Whenever I suggest anything to do together she always says we should wait until half-term, Easter, Summer, whatever holiday is coming up. I have to explain over and over again that I don’t get those holidays. Summer is the worst, she always tells me that there’s a whole 4 weeks (after her 2 week holiday) to find time to meet for coffee. From my point of view though, there’s only 6 weeks in which 10 members of my team all want to take a two week holiday and we still need adequate cover. So, if I’m off, I’m probably actually away on holiday and if not, I’m really busy at work because I’m covering for others and there’s no way I can take any additional time.

My parents and in-laws are as described by others on this thread. Even before covid, they didn’t get it. They’ve always call DH things like “the worker of the house” and ask him if he’s had a very busy day, then my dad will turn to me with a smirk and ask, “did you have a busy day too November? Lots of coffee to make for the boss, lots of papers to file”. I am the boss. I earn 3x what DH does and I work bloody hard with lots of long hours.

When covid hit, DH and I both worked throughout but his job can’t be done from home whereas mine transferred 100% to home working. Mum started calling several times in the middle of the day “because you’re not working”. I had to keep explaining that I am working and I’m in a series of meetings with clients all day every day. She then changed her tactic, telling me that I could call her at any time during the day because she was sure I’d be really bored and lonely at home. Then, if I didn’t call, she would call me to ask if I was bored and needed someone to talk to. I wish I had time to be bored! Dad, in the meantime, would regale me with stories about his friends’ (adult) children who were also furloughed but had renovated their houses and done all sorts of productive stuff while I was choosing to spend my furlough working. Again, I had to explain over and over again that there is a difference between furlough and wfh. I took a day’s annual leave for DH’s 40th last year and when I mentioned this, my parents fell about in hilarity – they genuinely thought I was making a joke about taking time off because there’s obviously nothing to take time off from. Similarly, a few weeks ago, we had to attend a dinner with DH’s family, booked for 5pm. He noted quite grumpily that he’d been able to finish work early but it had been difficult and then MiL turned to me to ask in a jokey manner, “and what about you, November? Was it difficult for you to get away from work early/” While the rest of the family fell about laughing. I just sat there with a straight face and stoney look, saying “yes, actually, I had to rearrange some important meetings which affects other people’s work schedules too” until they looked sheepish and dropped the subject.

Last year, my parents came to stay for a month. That was an eye-opener for them and we had quite a few arguments about the fact I disappeared behind a closed door all day when they thought we’d have lots of time together. In the first week, they kept inviting friends and relatives round for coffees and would walk straight into my office to tell me “auntie so-and-so is here. You need to come down to say hello otherwise you are being very rude”. After repeating over and over again that I was at work and they needed to act as if I was in the office and not at home, they finally got the message, although mum did keep barging in at 4.59pm to announce (I learned to hastily mute) that it was finishing up time. She still calls me at 5pm on the dot most days because I’ll be finished work and gets really huffy if I tell her that I need to tie some stuff up and will call back later.

Funnily though, this attitude completely changes at Christmastime. I’m lucky to work for an organisation that closes over Christmas and new year and we get roughly 10 days off – although it has to come out of our annual leave allowance. Every year, my parents huff and tut about how they never got time off for Christmas and young people (I’m 40!) don’t know they are born these days, and don’t know the meaning of hard work.

EllaVaNight · 16/02/2022 09:33

I think it's more of a "pretending I don't understand when I'm actually being a twat" thing rather than an age thing. Same as people who blame racism/homophobia on their age. My grandparents (2 are 90, 2 are 85) have never batted an eyelid at it and are all proud of my jobs whatever they have been!

One of my grandmas was a particularly strong female influence for me. Her husband worked abroad, she had 3 children and worked throughout, even setting up her own business once they left home.

My other was a sahp and her and my grandads are just as proud.

EllaVaNight · 16/02/2022 09:43

How lucky are you all to still have your parents bothering you, I wish I did. Why does someone do this on every thread about parents?! People moan about their kids on mumsnet but I don't pop up saying how lucky they are as mine died! I still moan about my living children! Relatives are annoying!

MummyInTheNecropolis · 16/02/2022 09:53

My mum is like this. She’s only in her 50s but has never had a full time job. She thinks I should just take a day off when I need to and often asks me to book a day off to do something. I’m a teacher! I get long holidays to do stuff and can’t just have a day off in the middle of a term but she still doesn’t get it despite me explaining a million times.

When DD was younger and my mum wasn’t working I used to occasionally ask her to look after DD if she was too ill to go to nursery or school. Not seriously ill or anything, just under the weather. She’d do it but I’d get constant comments about how children come first, and a sick child needs its mother. Well yes, in an ideal world, but sadly life isn’t always that simple!

Novemberish · 16/02/2022 11:52

Good point from EllaVaNight My maternal grandmother worked tirelessly (unpaid) for a charity close to her heart. It was not unusual to see her working late into the night bashing out letters on her typewriter or calling people to arrange meetings and events, as well as actually doing hands-on work all day. Despite the fact that she died nearly 20 years ago, before my career got going, I like to think that she'd be proud of me and understanding of work schedules.

My parents, on the other hand, have only ever worked in "unskilled" sectors, mainly retail. They clocked on and off at a specific time and obviously these were jobs which couldn't translate to home working, even if this had been feasible in the 70s-90s If either of them were denied an annual leave request, they would simply quit and get a similar job elsewhere. Mum, in particular, was always hopping from one supermarket to another. The thing is, even on quite low wages (Dad full-time and mum part-time), they managed to buy a nice little house in the mid-70s, were able to go on regular holidays abroad and had a generally nice life. Their experiences have coloured their view of the working world (plus, my DPs in particular seemed to enter a bubble in 2001 when they retired and have absolutely no understanding or acknowledgment of any changes in the world since then) and therefore can't understand that DH and I both have to work full-time to afford a smaller home than they had. They have never worked in the sort of industry I'm in but rather than take my word for what I do all day, they try to superimpose their own working experiences on it and assume then when I'm at home I won;t be working, or that I can start and finish at 9am/5pm, or even that I have a boss who allocates me work every day and is in charge of everything I do, rather than me generating contracts and projects and having to arrange my own annual schedule to make these work and although I do report upwards (everyone has a boss), this is to an executive board where I need to evidence targets and justify productivity.

Mary46 · 16/02/2022 17:16

God its tiring. I dont have loads time in evenings as try sort dinners. She usually wants big long chat)

SilverGlitterBaubles · 16/02/2022 19:40

I've taken to saying that I am working in the office even when I'm WFH to avoid random calls and them just popping in during the day.

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