Part 7.5

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AIBU to still be enjoying falls?

@longwayoff

They will say that the High Court doesn't understand the law and that the judiciary - remember? - is the Enemy of the People. That thanks to her sterling work =fastest vaccines etc. That they know best and nobody else does. And they will say that Orwell wrote guidelines, not warnings, and they are following them. Black is White. White is Black. There is no room for Grey.

They’d be spectacularly stupid to say any of that. Wasn’t that Enemy of the People nonsense a Daily Heil headline?

It feels as if we’re reaching a tipping point now. Challenges to the government’s behaviour are coming from all sides on many issues and MPs who want a political career beyond Johnson slowly recognising they need to put their heads over the parapet.

@DuncinToffee

“The High Court was also clear that the prime minster broke the law in appointing Dido Harding as chair of Test and Trace”.

Well, how will they defend this.

It was an unprecedent time of crisis. Decisions had to be made at pace. Unprecedent. Crisis. The proof in the appointment is the excellent job she has done. Crisis. unprecedented. Pace. The vaccine roll out. Jeremy Corbyn.

Well yes, they would be, but that hasn't stopped them previously. Fingers crossed you're right, the sooner Bozo's cabal has its fingers prised off the State coffers the better.

I notice that the few headlines on this are focused on Matt Hancock

How many court rulings stating that the government has acted unlawfully does it take for the fact that this governement acts unlawfully to sink in with some? How much taxpayers money has been wasted defending indefensible lawsuit after lawsuit? How much time is being wasted on this shit instead of being used to actually govern?

@BringBackCoffeeCreams

How many court rulings stating that the government has acted unlawfully does it take for the fact that this governement acts unlawfully to sink in with some? How much taxpayers money has been wasted defending indefensible lawsuit after lawsuit? How much time is being wasted on this shit instead of being used to actually govern?

Many more yet... it will never matter for millions of people in the country, if the collapse of the NHS isn't enough to turn people off the Tories, nothing will.

Feel quite negative about the May elections and Labours chances at the next GE.

Feel quite negative about the May elections and Labours chances at the next GE.

We won't see that many councils change hands in the May elections, given that many of those up for election are not Conservative. The only thing one can hope for is a very low Conservative turn out, otherwise it will be heralded as some kind of triumph.

I think they can kiss goodbye to the seven London boroughs they still hold.

@Blossomtoes

I think they can kiss goodbye to the seven London boroughs they still hold.

Hopefully so, and share of the vote in the others will be an important indication of sentiment and might reflect what would happen in a GE in Shire counties also.

Here is my prediction: Tories win at the May elections / suffer minor losses. Bozo makes a victory speech promising whatever he thinks of in the moment. Starmer is forced to stand
down and a new LL is found who still doesn’t unite the L party. Tories remain in power and corruption continues. We end up losing many rights and freedoms while thanking Bozo for his generosity.

Whilst calling eachother 'comrade'...

^^yup

@ENoeuf

Here is my prediction: Tories win at the May elections / suffer minor losses. Bozo makes a victory speech promising whatever he thinks of in the moment. Starmer is forced to stand down and a new LL is found who still doesn’t unite the L party. Tories remain in power and corruption continues. We end up losing many rights and freedoms while thanking Bozo for his generosity.

Want to put some money on that? Because I think you couldn’t be more wrong.

@Blossomtoes a friendly bet? let’s bookmark and winner gets the Mumsnet emoji?

Sounds like a plan 😉

Let’s hope I lose!

Oh yes. And not because I want the 🍷!

It was an unprecedent time of crisis. Decisions had to be made at pace. Unprecedent. Crisis. The proof in the appointment is the excellent job she has done. Crisis. unprecedented. Pace. The vaccine roll out. Jeremy Corbyn.

Well, Peston is saying BJ's defence is they weren't parties but gatherings of workers, all part of the working day and that he went back to work immediately afterwards, none the worse for wear, fit an able to carry out his duties.

I strongly suspect the Police will accept this and there will be no FPN for, whether anyone else gets one is irrelevant from his pov.

What about the parties in his flat? He might just get away with that, but what Govt job does Carrie do, or her friends?

Partygate is over

You mean his lawyer is suggesting this loophole.

@Alexandra2001

Well, Peston is saying BJ's defence is they weren't parties but gatherings of workers, all part of the working day and that he went back to work immediately afterwards, none the worse for wear, fit an able to carry out his duties.

I strongly suspect the Police will accept this and there will be no FPN for, whether anyone else gets one is irrelevant from his pov.

Peston says:

Those close to him think he will be fined. And much of the work of his team is to prepare the political case to put primarily to his MPs - and the public - for why he shouldn't resign or be booted out if he is fined.

@Peregrina

What about the parties in his flat? He might just get away with that, but what Govt job does Carrie do, or her friends?

His flat is his work space and Carrie is an independent woman, responsible for her own actions?

Saving Big Dog hasn't any script for Carrie to avoid a fine.

Dunno but after seeing Prince Andrew worm his way out of justice, i think BJ can avoid a FPN.

And what about the 2 parties he apologised for, will the now count as work events? Meaning he lied to the queen again.