Part 7.5

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AIBU to still be enjoying falls?

@DuncinToffee

MPs had no problems wriggling out of voting against free school meals and in favour for sewage in our water and Paterson so I am sure they will manage.

They are very good at defending the indefensible.

I'm just disappointed that there hasn't been a poster along to explain why it is necessary for the Prime Minister to lie to parliament. Perhaps they haven't had their instructions on that yet?

At least we are now all clear that it is necessary for this Prime Minister to booze in order to work, also to have his wife present and birthday cake, otherwise he can't work.

@Piggywaspushed Apologies! I just saw it tweeted today. I should have checked.

These threads were meant to be about enjoying Bozo's downfall but the fucker isn't going anywhere

So disheartening

@GreenLunchBox

These threads were meant to be about enjoying Bozo's downfall but the fucker isn't going anywhere

So disheartening

Give it time. I’m not expecting him to go anywhere until May at which point I anticipate his MPs won’t be able to oust him fast enough.

May is a long way off. If we seem to be "over" the pandemic by then, could there be a bounce for Johnson and the Tories?

Maybe Matty can enlighten us on the parties
news.sky.com/story/matt-hancock-appears-on-podcast-to-answer-all-tough-questions-after-breaking-lockdown-rules-by-kissing-aide-12541914

May’s ten weeks away. I intend to volunteer for canvassing and I’ll take great pleasure in reminding people of Johnson’s mendacity, I’m sure all the canvassers for anyone but the Tories will do then same.

Johnson’s new defence (parties are an ordinary part of a PM’s work day) is certainly difficult to square with his telling parliament that there were no parties/ he was furious to discover that parties had taken place.

Fuck me! I can't decide if some posters are drunk, stupid, deliberately obtuse or just fucking deluded.

The government led by BJ banned groups of people outside of essential work.
The government led by BJ had police forces fine people who were deemed to have ignored the ban, however temporarily.
The government led by BJ ignored the ban and did whatever the fuck they wanted.
Rather than apologising and having some honesty and integrity those involved have lied, obfuscated and told the population we are idiots.

Not sure what people defending BJ are thinking.

He should go. I’m disheartened that he hasn’t yet been pushed to go… but I can’t help thinking that he’s never going to get the boot!

In some respects I'm happy he's hanging on, every day he does so he damages the Conservative party yet further.

I'm just disappointed that there hasn't been a poster along to explain why it is necessary for the Prime Minister to lie to parliament. Perhaps they haven't had their instructions on that yet?

I'm confidently expecting loads of cut and paste posts referring to some allegation of a lie Kinnock or Callaghan or Wilson is alleged to have pronounced in Parliament several decades ago. And some more stoutly claiming that Johnson has never lied, or that it's an essential part of his job, or that he did but none of it matters because Brexit.

All this rule clarification by Govt puts me in mind of the commandments in Animal Farm:
The original commandments are:
1 Whatever goes upon two legs is an enemy.
2 Whatever goes upon four legs, or has wings, is a friend.
3 No animal shall wear clothes.
4 No animal shall sleep in a bed.
5 No animal shall drink alcohol.
6 No animal shall kill any other animal.
7 All animals are equal.
These commandments are also distilled into the maxim "Four legs good, two legs bad!" which is primarily used by the sheep on the farm, often to disrupt discussions and disagreements between animals on the nature of Animalism.
Later, Napoleon and his pigs secretly revise some commandments to clear themselves of accusations of law-breaking. The changed commandments are as follows, with the changes bolded:
4 No animal shall sleep in a bed with sheets.
5 No animal shall drink alcohol to excess.
6 No animal shall kill any other animal without cause.

Nobody noticed the changing rules, and if they thought the rules had been different in the past they were told they had misunderstood the rules in the first place.
Sound familiar?

InMySpareTime you're absolutely right.
Our political system relies on truth, honesty, integrity, service to your country. If we as a population can't trust those we elect to share our values, to put our interests first then the system is broken.
If the system is broken, where do we go?
What dies this say about our country and our values?

It worries me about the critical thinking skills of some posters with the repeated "I'll wait for the report".

We've seen the photos and we've heard BJ admit to the meeting in the garden and admit he should have shut it down.

Why do you need a report from a civil servant to form your own opinion about that?

The thing is working in Downing Street is extra-ordinarily stressful. Well you have to work with Boris and Carrie keeps wandering passed with the decorator, so I can see why people think it is stressful. But is it more or less stressful than other roles?
What we need is OFTMESS.
The Office for Testing Mental Stress.
They could go around work places measuring the amount of stress and mandating the number of tax-payer funded piss-ups that are permitted.

@itsgettingweird

It worries me about the critical thinking skills of some posters with the repeated "I'll wait for the report".

We've seen the photos and we've heard BJ admit to the meeting in the garden and admit he should have shut it down.

Why do you need a report from a civil servant to form your own opinion about that?

Thinking skills?

InMySpareTime that is uncannily close to our own dear Napoleon’s antics.
And not forgetting of course “some animals are more equal than others”…

@CryingAtTheDiscotheque

InMySpareTime that is uncannily close to our own dear Napoleon’s antics. And not forgetting of course “some animals are more equal than others”…

I think it unfair to suggest that Big Baby thinks of himself as being more equal. He knows in his mind that he is far superior to the rest of us.

@InMySpareTime 100%.

He’s certainly a superior liar

I can see it really triggers some people when a 'dissenter' enters the fray but as I said before I'll sit back and see how it all plays out rather than spend months and unnecessary energy frothing about it (much better for stress levels).

Speaking of the garden 'gathering' rather conveniently that one was defined as a ''work meeting' because a certain person was in attendance but the 'gatherings' where he wasn't in attendance were 'parties' - funny that.

Oh and we reached Animal Farm many many months if not years ago, have you only just realised? .

I know we've been Animal Farmed for ages, but it was the specific bit of Animal Farm about the commandments that really resonates lately.

I don't usually look at the Times, but this pretty much sums it up...

Yes, it was good to be reminded of the part about Napoleon's changing commandments, which I for one had forgotten about.

Good piece by Hugo Rifkind. I still read The Times, sometimes I wonder why but it does publish quite good pieces from time to time. During the lockdown I subscribed to the FT and still read that - it is pretty good though I skip over the hard core financial stuff.

I've heard ByLine Times is good, I follow them on Twitter but haven't subscribed yet, maybe I should.