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AIBU?

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Part 7.5

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jgw1 · 11/02/2022 17:37

AIBU to still be enjoying falls?

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DePfeffoff · 14/02/2022 15:28

Wonders how well the trip went so far...

Rumours are that Scottish supermarkets are running low on eggs

DuncinToffee · 14/02/2022 15:33

What about Dundee cakes?

SueSaid · 14/02/2022 15:36

'Well, aren't you lucky. I'm still waiting for my twice-postponed supposedly urgent oncology appointment.'

This is terrible. I know in my own area urgent 2 week referrals went ahead throughout the pandemic as did oncology appointments. I understand some people delayed getting new symptoms checked but an urgent oncology should have gone ahead. I hope you have submitted a formal complaint.

jgw1 · 14/02/2022 15:48

@JaniieJones

'Well, aren't you lucky. I'm still waiting for my twice-postponed supposedly urgent oncology appointment.'

This is terrible. I know in my own area urgent 2 week referrals went ahead throughout the pandemic as did oncology appointments. I understand some people delayed getting new symptoms checked but an urgent oncology should have gone ahead. I hope you have submitted a formal complaint.

According to a song I heard. Boris doesn't care.
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CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 14/02/2022 16:26

God that horrible smirk - it is so revealing of his character.
Hi viz prediction was correct!

longwayoff · 14/02/2022 16:37

Mitch Benn is the Master. Wondered where he'd gone to. Glad to have found him again.

CSWife · 14/02/2022 16:38

I thought it had been a bit quiet from Nadir. She's still on top form twitter.com/angrysalmond/status/1492774740444037122?s=21

SueSaid · 14/02/2022 16:41

@CryingAtTheDiscotheque

God that horrible smirk - it is so revealing of his character. Hi viz prediction was correct!
It's funny how we all see things differently. I don't see a horrible smirk at all just a polite comment and a friendly smile. He has the patience of a saint with those rabid reporters.
CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 14/02/2022 16:54

They were talking about death threats Janiie, not having a jolly chit chat.

merrymouse · 14/02/2022 16:55

It's funny how we all see things differently. I don't see a horrible smirk at all just a polite comment and a friendly smile. He has the patience of a saint with those rabid reporters.

Yes, it’s strange that even knowing how badly he has behaved towards his family, and even though his closest supporters have never suggested that he is either patient or saintly, you would describe him as such.

Clearly he has some talents - his columns are popular with a particular audience and some people obviously find him charming, but it’s so clear that his flaws mean he should not be PM.

Piggywaspushed · 14/02/2022 16:59

[quote CSWife]I thought it had been a bit quiet from Nadir. She's still on top form twitter.com/angrysalmond/status/1492774740444037122?s=21[/quote]
To be fair, that's not from today. Some while back.

She's still astonishingly stupid , however.

Alexandra2001 · 14/02/2022 17:00

@JaniieJones

'Well, aren't you lucky. I'm still waiting for my twice-postponed supposedly urgent oncology appointment.'

This is terrible. I know in my own area urgent 2 week referrals went ahead throughout the pandemic as did oncology appointments. I understand some people delayed getting new symptoms checked but an urgent oncology should have gone ahead. I hope you have submitted a formal complaint.

My DD works in NHS plus the stats don't bare this out as the norm, the 2 week wait went out the window.

Even quite recently, my former line manager had to wait weeks for a biopsy because the team of 3 that did that, went down to 1 after the other 2 returned to EU after 31st December.
His cancer went from stage 1 to stage 3, his chemo is awful.

Brexit, driven by Johnson, has cost the NHS and us very dearly (he of course will get priority over you or i) or will get a donor to pay for his private treatment,

So Boris really doesn't care.

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 14/02/2022 17:01

He is cynical and knows exactly what he is doing. The lie is out there now, and all he needs to do now is to keep it current by refusing to apologise. Nick Cohen wrote a very good article this weekend about the govt's lying, including the following about strategic lying:

"This is a government that lies. It lies because it instinctively understands what sociologists call “strategic lying” and the rest of us call “shit sticking”, shifts the news agenda on to its preferred territory. It lies because it knows Dominic Cummings was right to agree that when he told the lie that Brexit would deliver £350m a week to the NHS in 2016, or the prime minister told the lie this year that Keir Starmer failed to prosecute Jimmy Savile, they “trapped” their opponents into spreading the lies as they refuted them."

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/12/lies-lies-and-more-lies-a-government-built-on-lies-is-incapable-of-anything-else

HarrietPierce · 14/02/2022 17:02

"God that horrible smirk - it is so revealing of his character."

Yes, disgusting. Smirking when the Leader of the Opposition has received a death threat, no doubt fuelled by Johnson's lying slur. Yes, "funny" how we see things differently.

dontcallmelen · 14/02/2022 17:10

@merrymouse

It's funny how we all see things differently. I don't see a horrible smirk at all just a polite comment and a friendly smile. He has the patience of a saint with those rabid reporters.

Yes, it’s strange that even knowing how badly he has behaved towards his family, and even though his closest supporters have never suggested that he is either patient or saintly, you would describe him as such.

Clearly he has some talents - his columns are popular with a particular audience and some people obviously find him charming, but it’s so clear that his flaws mean he should not be PM.

None so blind as those that see, comes to mind.
AuldAlliance · 14/02/2022 17:13

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Alexandra2001 · 14/02/2022 17:17

It's funny how we all see things differently. I don't see a horrible smirk at all just a polite comment and a friendly smile. He has the patience of a saint with those rabid reporters

Of course what one "sees" can be bias toward your political leanings but i thought it was very telling he couldn't bring himself to condemn the threats if nothing else.

Remarkable really.

SueSaid · 14/02/2022 17:20

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ClaudineClare · 14/02/2022 17:24

Don't pretend to be obtuse JJ. The point is obviously that Johnson loses no sleep about behaving in a reprehensible and potentially criminal manner, whereas a civil servant lost his life because he was so worried that he might accidentally do something wrong.

AuldAlliance · 14/02/2022 17:26

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SueSaid · 14/02/2022 17:30

'The point is obviously that Johnson loses no sleep about behaving in a reprehensible and potentially criminal manner,'

In your opinion, which is fine but let's wait to see what the Met have to say about alleged criminal manners shall we?

Peregrina · 14/02/2022 17:30

Not sure why you have linked this to my comment regarding BJ?

Because the contrast with BJ is stark? Here was a man who was conscientious to the extreme; there is one who lies and lies and lies.

longwayoff · 14/02/2022 17:36

John Nicolson has called it right on Nadir, a truth twisting, self seeking, self protomoting apology for a politician whose 'oh poor me, I'm a persecuted woman you know' does a disservice to women everywhere. Shameful and shameless.

HarrietPierce · 14/02/2022 17:38

Johnson lies every time he opens his mouth. It would be good if the following came to pass.

The Liberal Democrats have tabled a motion to allow MPs to point out when the Prime Minister makes misleading statements, without being thrown out of the Commons.
The Liberal Democrats are calling on Conservative MPs and opposition parties to back the change, so that Boris Johnson can be held to account for his lies and “Trumpian” behaviour.

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StormzyinaTCup · 14/02/2022 17:43

What jumps out to me in that article and other articles on this case more than anything is this:

Mrs Morris said her husband feared there was not enough time to process information in the fast-moving period and if any error got past him the government "would be torn apart in the press".

As a result, he was "desperate" to keep on top of what was going on, working every day with "no real time off", she said.

She said her husband "never liked media interest" in his working life and was "fearful of being ripped apart by the UK press".

Yes Covid was fast moving and yes it would have been hugely stressful