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AIBU?

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To not want DF to bring her baby everywhere?

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DijfunvKd · 11/02/2022 12:19

My friend lives a few hours away from me, and visits the area I live in fairly often. She had her first baby last year. When she visits, it's always with her DH.

Now she's had the baby, she will contact me asking if I want to meet her and the baby for coffee or lunch, and I always go. She will also ask if I want to go for a drink or nice meal one evening, and so I find a date on which I'm available. However, I then get messages to say she'll have to bring the baby because she'll need breastfeeding, or there is no one else to look after her etc. So we end up having a quick coke in a child friendly pub, or they both come to my house.

I don't mind the lunches with the baby, and do the expected 'isn't she cute?' (she is), 'is she eating/sleeping well?' small talk, but I find it extremely boring and do it to be polite and supportive. I don't want to repeat the same conversation on the evening.

DF will always say 'baby will be no trouble while we're out, she's very placid', but it inevitably becomes DF talking to the baby while I sit and make the expected cooing noises, and then she needs to leave early to get the baby to bed. If she had no option but to bring the baby to socialise then that would be one thing, but her DH goes off for hours with his friends, child free, well into the night, and I can't understand why she can't do that. If it was because she simply didn't want to leave the baby, then why ask if I'd like to go for a drink or nice meal in the evening?

During her pregnancy she was claiming nothing would change, that she'd still be going on holiday with friends and leaving the baby with her dad, and I thought she was deluding herself with that, but now that the baby has arrived she's swung hard the other way, which is her prerogative, but AIBU to think that her expectation that she brings the baby every time we see each other is ridiculous?

For information, the same happens when I visit her too, although that is less often because she visits friends and family where I live and stays with her parents.

OP posts:
Blossomtoes · 11/02/2022 13:58

@Mmmmmmbop90

I think your friend could do without friends like you
Because we all have to worship at the altar of motherhood?
Marimaur · 11/02/2022 13:59

I found it hard to leave mine before they were 10 months or so. I got mastitis twice from going to long between breastfeeding after cluster feeding and it was hell - had to go to urgent care. Literally would take a few hours to happen.

It will change later but it’s hard in the beginning.

Drunkpanda · 11/02/2022 13:59

OP I didn't want a friend to coo over my baby. I wanted the friend to ask about me how I was coping with no sleep, how I felt, what I was looking forward to (or not). Any random person can coo over the baby, you're her friend
I honestly think friends talk about their pets now just as much as I ever did about my dc Grin

Marimaur · 11/02/2022 13:59

Too*

ExcitingTimes2021 · 11/02/2022 14:00

Honestly OP. I had my baby is August too and I thought my life wouldnt change much and I could leave her with Dad for a night and go enjoy myself. I chose to breast feed too. Boy was I an idiot to think this!!!

At six months she is refusing bottles, and isn’t taking enough solids to go long periods of time without a breast feed. That means she needs to be with me most of the time. I have had max 5 hours away from her but that was for a funeral and I had a miserable, hungry, tired baby and a stressed out Daddy when I got back. She won’t sleep without booby so I have to be home every night before bedtime. When she is older it will be different but this is just how it is now.

A lot of my friends have become very distant coz they just don’t understand why baby needs to stay close while still so young. I wish I had done bottles as I would have had some freedom. People say just give her a bottle but you can’t force her to take it.

For now you just might have to accept that mum and baby come as a package. It won’t be forever but I can tell you now, as a new mum who’s friends have all backed away from me, you supporting her like you have done will mean so much to her and your friendship will be so much stronger when she gets a bit of freedom back. Life as a new month et can be so very lonely x

T00Ts · 11/02/2022 14:01

@Hangthetowels

You are literally so unreasonable. I wouldn't have left my baby with anyone under 15 months or so just to meet a friend. It's her BABY!!! I'm guessing you have absolutely no idea what it's like to be a mother?
Why 15 months? Confused

Also, you’ve clearly not understood anything the OP has written. At all.

DijfunvKd · 11/02/2022 14:02

@Laiste

So have you asked her directly if/why she doesn't leave the baby with him?
'Oh, by the way, DH has made plans to see Jack tonight because we're home, so I'll have to bring DB. Hope that's okay.'

Or

'DH has got tickets to the match tonight since they're playing while we're home, so I'll have to bring DB.'

Or

'My step dad wants to take DH to the club tonight for the snooker, so I'll have to bring DB.'

If in (gently) say, 'how is it that DH makes plans and they override yours?' it's 'oh he had made his first, I just forgot' or 'ah step dad was really excited so I didn't want to say no' or some variation.

With the match I had asked if DH was going out for drinks afterwards (in a general conversation way, not accusatory), and she said no, he'd want to look after the baby. I suggested he met us and looked after the baby at Wetherspoons so that the baby was there, but she could relax a bit. Lo and behold, he texts saying he was going out for drinks after all.

OP posts:
takealettermsjones · 11/02/2022 14:02

Just stop saying yes, and save both of you the aggro.

EstoyCansada · 11/02/2022 14:03

Baby's change your life. I'd like to meet my friends without taking my children along but it's not possible.

IsItAllOverYetPlease · 11/02/2022 14:03

I felt exactly the same way when the first of our group of friends had her baby and insisted on bringing her to the pub with us. At that point I'd probably have rathered my friend say she couldn't come instead of us all having a PG night at a pub with the baby. However since having my own I realise just how difficult it is and she is probably in desperate need of some adult company, even if she does have to bring the baby along. Breastfed babies in particular are complete leeches - her life isn't her own anymore so unfortunately its a BOGOF package. Once the baby is about 8 months old she should be in more of a routine and the baby might have learnt to take a bottle then - though mine didn't. Her feeds should be spaced a bit further apart though to give enough time to head out for a few hours. Be patient and things will get better.

AryaStarkWolf · 11/02/2022 14:04

@Hangthetowels

You are literally so unreasonable. I wouldn't have left my baby with anyone under 15 months or so just to meet a friend. It's her BABY!!! I'm guessing you have absolutely no idea what it's like to be a mother?
Really? 15 months? Not even with your child's father? That's bizarre and yes I do have children
Surgarblossom · 11/02/2022 14:04

I would be annoyed with this too and I have a LO. I wouldn't do this to any of my friends unless they specifically asked to see LO.
If she didn't have anyone to leave the baby with I could understand, obviously you cooing in the right places and asking the correct questions makes your DF think that you are genuinely interested hence her always bringing baby along.

Viviennemary · 11/02/2022 14:04

I might carry on with the lunches but I would stop the evenings out. Theres nothing more boring for others than a velcro baby.

alisoninwonderland · 11/02/2022 14:04

She can probably sense your frustration and that your cooing is fake, and suggests evenings out because she feels guilty and trying to please everyone. But then when the time comes she just can't do it (can't not be 100% focused on/worried about baby I mean - it's hard to just switch from that when that's your new reality in life!). I get that it's annoying for you but I also completely understand your friend. Having a baby can make you very very emotional in lots of ways. Please be gentle with her OP

RobertsRadio · 11/02/2022 14:06

I get you Op. I think you should just stick to the very occasional mother and baby lunches or coffees and be busy if she suggests any nights out. Hopefully in time she will once again want to have child-free evenings out.

Sportsnight · 11/02/2022 14:06

It sounds like your friend isn’t really getting as much support from her DH as she says she is. He is overriding her chance to go out by saying he will have the baby, and then not having the baby. Your friend might be more in need of your support and company than you realise?

OperationDog · 11/02/2022 14:06

I'd like to meet my friends without taking my children along but it's not possible.

So presumably you don't make arrangements to meet for dinner then change these arrangements at the last minute, which is what the OP's friend does.

RosesAndHellebores · 11/02/2022 14:07

Your lives have diverged. Move on. My school friends had babies years before me and we weren't at the same stages for years except for Christmas cards. We're all over 60 now and back together again as a.group

Lavender24 · 11/02/2022 14:09

I agree with you and I've got a kid myself. Sounds like she needs to be more honest with you and herself about what is possible in terms of socialising while her baby is still young.

Mybestyear · 11/02/2022 14:09

@Hangthetowels

You are literally so unreasonable. I wouldn't have left my baby with anyone under 15 months or so just to meet a friend. It's her BABY!!! I'm guessing you have absolutely no idea what it's like to be a mother?
OP is not suggesting her friend leaves her baby. Her AIBU is why doesn't friend just suggest meeting up for coffee with baby rather than suggesting a 'night out' then changing it at the last minute.

OP - YANBU. Being a mother to a young baby doesn't mean you get to much everyone else about.

Sugartitsorahilly · 11/02/2022 14:09

Yanbu. Me and my friends both have kids and wouldn't bring them out when we want to have a proper conversation! Lunch time fair enough but who brings a baby to a pub at night? She should leave her with the dad for a few hours.

Mybestyear · 11/02/2022 14:10
  • much everyone about
Mybestyear · 11/02/2022 14:10

FFS spell check did it again!!

Muck everyone about.

forrestgreen · 11/02/2022 14:11

Df, let's have a great night out

You, yes can't wait for a loud, late night out-it's been ages...

Df, oh can baby come as dh has to look after an elephant etc

You, well we'd better swap it to a lunch then.

Take charge

DijfunvKd · 11/02/2022 14:12

@Drunkpanda

OP I didn't want a friend to coo over my baby. I wanted the friend to ask about me how I was coping with no sleep, how I felt, what I was looking forward to (or not). Any random person can coo over the baby, you're her friend I honestly think friends talk about their pets now just as much as I ever did about my dc Grin
Why do you think that those things haven't been the topic of conversation? They have been the only topics of conversation.
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