4 year old assembly “girls can be boys”

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Is this the norm? My childrens school had an assembly (via zoom of course) on boys can be girls and girls can be boys. The whole school attended - rising 3 year olds through to 11 year olds (nursery is part of schools here -devolved U.K. nation)

I’m so angry, this doesn’t feel age appropriate at all. I’m so angry, my 6 year old was sobbing over it and it completely took me off guard.

I’m not an anti-trans person, I have some good friends who are trans, I’ve seen the pain they’ve gone through, and I’ll always encourage sympathy and no judgement, but this seems like madness. 3 and 4 year olds barely even know what boy and girl are. These poor kids have had two year’s socialisation stolen away from them, can’t we just let them be kids for a few years?

AIBU to be cross, or is this the norm in every school?

YABU- it’s the norm
YANBU- it’s not the norm for this age group

i would go apeshit - bang out of order and unnecessary!!!

@Whatwouldscullydo

Email the school and ask them what definitions they are using and when they come back unable to do so without using circular definitions and stereotypes, ask them why they ate teaching stuff they cant explain or define as fact to impressional children.

We need to be able to ask.who benefits from children confused about their sex and gender and ot being normalised ti have no boundaries. It's not the kidd fir sure.

It's the pharmaceutical industry who benefits, and it's those with pharmaceutical interests who fund it.

@WorriedGiraffe

I voted YANBU to answer your poll the way you wanted it, but YABU to be so mad, you don’t even have all the info. And why was your 6 year old sobbing? Sounds over dramatic as an instant response.

Why do you think you have the rights and knowledge to judge someone else's reaction to something?

@HoodieHoodie

“ I do think that trans education needs to be careful about conflating someone’s personal interests with their gender identity. It should be clear that there’s no “girls toys” and “boys toys”.”

This is the core of trans education though.
This is the basis of every single story about a trans child. (I knew I was trans because I liked football and wanted short hair, therefore i (a girl) am a boy)
The whole premise of a trans child is flawed and rooted in sexism.
Gender brings nothing positive to the table.
It brings everything to stereotypes.

This!

It's not just about change, is it?
I have a mixed race child. Where does he belong? Can he identify as one race or the other? or he can't, because he is mixed?

He can identify to whichever race he is part of.
If white people take the places off ethnic minorities is that ok?
Maybe rich people can identify as poor and take the grants and scholarships meant for the genuinely struggling.
How would you feel if your mixed race child grows up suffering injustice, stereotyping, racial bullying and discrimination and a white man who has never experienced that identifies as mixed race? That would completely undermine your child’s experiences.

If you can self identify as any gender, race, religion without actually having the biology, experience or knowledge where does it end? Can a man identify as a child? Can a terrorist identify as a different religion in court? Can a rapist claim it’s not rape as he identifies as female? Can I identify as a cat? Or identify as a doctor? Or identify as a slim person?

Can I just decide that I’m going to be a 6 foot, black, male Hindu who is a model. Or is that, like transgender, a complete utter lie?

There is zero need for any 'trans education' in primary schools.

I have never once read an account of a single child who wasn't influenced by their parents or other adults.

In secondary schools it should be taught that SOME people are more comfortable presenting as the opposite sex but they can NEVER actually change sex. Dysphoria is a mental illness that most will grow out of when puberty matures their bodies AND brains.

Telling children they can change or choose their sex is absurd. As is telling them that their likes and dislikes or dress sense dictate their sex.

Queer theory is about removing boundaries. Normalising the many male sexual paraphilias.

Those who aren't bothered about this shit being forcefed to children, ask yourself who benefits from removing children's boundaries and safeguarding?

Who benefits from kids being oversexualised from a young age?

Who benefits from children being told if a man tells you something you know isn't true that you must be kind to him?

Who benefits from girls no longer being allowed single sex spaces?

Who benefits from telling children that their senses and instincts are wrong?

Men. Always men.

@PaddleBoardingMomma

For anyone unsure of how damaging this all is, I really recommend the video in this thread:

The Call Is Coming From Inside The House - short film www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4456148-the-call-is-coming-from-inside-the-house-short-film

Thanks for sharing that link. A very powerful film. I'm so upset for those girls. They look unnatural with their wide hips and no breasts, and they don't look like men. The complications section was awful. I really hope this stops soon. A whole generation of girls who have been mutilated and harmed due to the affirmation model. Phantom nipples that feel like they are constantly being pinched.

Well said @Chichimcgee

@Whatsnewpussyhat

There is zero need for any 'trans education' in primary schools.

I have never once read an account of a single child who wasn't influenced by their parents or other adults.

In secondary schools it should be taught that SOME people are more comfortable presenting as the opposite sex but they can NEVER actually change sex. Dysphoria is a mental illness that most will grow out of when puberty matures their bodies AND brains.

Telling children they can change or choose their sex is absurd. As is telling them that their likes and dislikes or dress sense dictate their sex.

Queer theory is about removing boundaries. Normalising the many male sexual paraphilias.

Those who aren't bothered about this shit being forcefed to children, ask yourself who benefits from removing children's boundaries and safeguarding?

Who benefits from kids being oversexualised from a young age?

Who benefits from children being told if a man tells you something you know isn't true that you must be kind to him?

Who benefits from girls no longer being allowed single sex spaces?

Who benefits from telling children that their senses and instincts are wrong?

Men. Always men.

Absolutely. Well said.

It's unfortunate when you have to tell small children that what their teacher has said is not true.

Not just unfortunate.

A teacher is a trusted adult in every child's life. Sometimes the only one the child has.

Its an abuse of the relationship and the power .

Its also a huge step forwards in the isolation of children from adults in their lives who have the role of protecting them.

Just thought it would be useful for @Cattenberg and others who shared the suicide article why that types of reporting has been said by the Samaritans to cause harm.

It's not something you should be lightly sharing on social media.

www.samaritans.org/about-samaritans/media-guidelines/10-top-tips-reporting-suicide/

Highlights here

Another relevant point

Apologies, @WorriedMumsDontSleep, I’ve only just seen this. It looks as though the article has been taken down, but I think it did suggest that the child’s suicide was the result of bullying. I wouldn’t have shared the article on a site aimed at children, but I now understand why the article was potentially harmful for other reasons.