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Exs mum cut my daughter's hair!!

169 replies

Singlemum90 · 06/02/2022 20:50

I have 2 DC's with ex. He lives with his parents and has children 1 night a week-so they stay in his parents house with him. He has lived there since we split years ago. The rest of the time children are with me and DH and our youngest child.

So ex had the kids his night this weekend and daughter returns with her hair cut! I'd say 6 inches of her beautiful long blonde hair all gone. I was obviously shocked and asked had he taken her to the hairdresser. Nope, his mum had decided she needed a hair cut, booked an appointment for DD, and told the hairdresser she wanted it all chopped off. Previously long hair is now shoulder length. DD isn't upset but doesn't like it as it was shorter than she wanted but granny had the final say. Her hair had not been cut in a year but I had literally just booked her brother in for a haircut the day before and had planned me & my DD would get booked in this week as we could both use a trim. She had lovely thick long blonde hair so was in no way bad looking or stragily-i assume his mum just didn't like the length.

He can't understand why I am absolutely fuming!! Neither can his mum by the sounds of it. AIBU to think that his mum had no right to take my daughter without my permission to get her hair cut !?! I asked DD had she asked to have her hair cut and she said no but his mum said she needed it done. Why would she think thats her decision!? It's so much shorter! I really don't like it, she looks so different. Ex wasn't there as had taken other DC out for the day so it was all his mum. Apparently she had booked the appointment a few weeks ago so had plenty of opportunity to ask if I was ok with it or what way she should have it done or if I wanted to take her myself but nope, she just completely bypassed me!!

OP posts:
Littlehouseonthefairy · 07/02/2022 00:08

He's her dad. If he wants her hair cut he has as much right as you have to get it cut. You are just looking for things to get annoyed about.

MrsSkylerWhite · 07/02/2022 00:10

The only opinion that matters is your daughter’s.

Please work with her so she feels empowered to say no next time, if that is how she feels.

I would be angry too, on her behalf.

Singlemum90 · 07/02/2022 00:11

@littlehouseonthefairy he didn't want her hair cut. His mum did.

OP posts:
toomuchlaundry · 07/02/2022 00:12

The dad didn’t ask for the hair to be cut the MIL did it off her own back it seems. The dad doesn’t seem to do much parenting.

You need to talk to him about bodily autonomy and how important this is for his daughter

ANameChangeAgain · 07/02/2022 00:13

An 8 year old should have the final say on her hair before any adult. Her grandmother forcing a cut on her in unacceptable. A haircut seems trivial to some, but its an important way of teaching your children that they get to make the final decisions on their body.

Meatshake · 07/02/2022 00:16

I'd be annoyed because she overstepped, and yes I'd give my other half a heads-up about a drastic hair cut. Just courtesy really.

I'd also be pissed off on a practical level, my daughter has long curly hair that is a complete pain in the arse, a lot of the styles I've learned for school are kind of specific to the length of her hair. I'd be really annoyed if I'd dropped her off at her granny's and she now had shoulder length hair because a lot of the go-to "stay put" styles I use to control her crazy curls probably wouldn't work.

Anystarinthesky · 07/02/2022 00:17

That was well out of order, I'd be fuming.

TheChip · 07/02/2022 00:23

I can see why you're upset. Its not really a normal thing for a GP to just decide to do really. Especially without running it past either parent.
Its quite weird actually that she even felt okay doing that.

All of those who say it is okay, could you really see yourself just taking your GC, niece or nephew for a haircut because you felt it needed cutting, without asking their parents permission?

Blossomtoes · 07/02/2022 00:24

@GrannytoaUnicorn

She wouldn't be seeing her EVERRRRR again off it were my DD
You don’t really understand how contact works, do you?
Spitspotsput · 07/02/2022 00:31

I said yanbu because I can understand your frustration, but if her dad said he was happy its really not your choice.

Singlemum90 · 07/02/2022 00:34

@mrsskylerwhite, yes I have explained to her she should not feel pressured to get something done she doesn't want. Thank you.

Thanks everyone for your comments! Most have been very helpful (some daft, it is Mumsnet after all lol) so I am popping off now as I feel I am right to be annoyed and seems most agree it wasn't right for her to do but obviously not much I can do now. I did speak to her briefly and she has said it won't happen again without my say so but seems she doesn't see the issue with what she did really. That is a problem for me as it means she may well overstep on other things in future. I don't know how she could have thought it was ok really. But it's done now so I will be moving on and as a few have said DD is not upset & ultimately I don't want animosity with ex either.

So thank you all! & Goodbye!

OP posts:
JockTamsonsBairns · 07/02/2022 00:36

Did you ask your ex's permission to leave DD's hair to grow long?
Did you contact him before booking DS's haircut, to ask if it was ok with him?
Or did you just assume that you are Boss Parent &completely bypasshim?

I'm together with DH, and I don't allow him a say in our DCs hair cuts/styles. That's my domain. He would be clueless at it, so I made those decisions when they were little.
Now they're older, (14 and 12) they have complete autonomy over their own preferred styles. DH still has no input.

OP, YANBU. If MIL got involved with taking any of them for a haircut, I'd be fuming. It would be no business of hers.
I know I'm probably being unreasonable, but I don't care.

Queeniepies · 07/02/2022 00:42

When I was a child my parents insisted my sister and I had short hair like boys as my dad 'didn't like long hair'. When my DD was about 3 she had lovely long hair. My parents made all sorts of complaints about her having long hair and I left her with them for just one afternoon when I had a hospital appointment. When I got back my mum had cut DD's hair into a horrible bowl cut! I was so angry.

DD is grown up now, and I am NC with my parents for a myriad of reasons.

thirdfiddle · 07/02/2022 00:54

I think most kids at some point have an accidental chop - self inflicted, peer inflicted, super glue inflicted, interfering gran inflicted is new but you and daughter will be used to it in a few days and she'll know to say no thanks next time.

I think try not to get emotionally attached to hair and encourage your DD not to. There's enough crap in the media pushing the idea on them that long straight swishy hair is an important thing in life. She'd be gorgeous with any hair or none I'll bet.

Chichimcgee · 07/02/2022 00:56

I think most kids at some point have an accidental chop - self inflicted

I rocked a very cool punk/grunge hairstyle when I was about 6. Went from really long hair to bald in some places 🤣

TheChip · 07/02/2022 01:05

@thirdfiddle

I think most kids at some point have an accidental chop - self inflicted, peer inflicted, super glue inflicted, interfering gran inflicted is new but you and daughter will be used to it in a few days and she'll know to say no thanks next time.

I think try not to get emotionally attached to hair and encourage your DD not to. There's enough crap in the media pushing the idea on them that long straight swishy hair is an important thing in life. She'd be gorgeous with any hair or none I'll bet.

My son was at a sleepover at his friends years ago. I got a phone call from her dad the following morning saying "thechip, I am so sorry but kay decided to give your son a haircut lastnight and she didn't do a very good job. I am going to find a barber before I bring him home" It was Sunday, so a few hours later I got another call telling me there was none open and that they were on their way.

He knocked on my door, deadly serious, he looked so apologetic. Then he turned my son around so I could see the back of his head. I couldnt hold back the smirk on my face and then we both ended up laughing. The relief on his face! I think he thought I was going to be really angry. I probably would have been slightly annoyed that it had been allowed to happen, but it was so bad it was hilarious. He assured me that kay would never have access to the hair clippers again Grin

Monopolyiscrap · 07/02/2022 01:15

Either you or your ex can decide to have your child hair cut.

ittakes2 · 07/02/2022 01:37

I would be livid.
In fact I was livid when my m'n'law did the same to my son and she cut it crooked!

Mogwig · 07/02/2022 01:41

I would be very cross with her. Especially as she's had this planned for weeks. It's a direct step of aggression on to your territory, and Trey me she knows JUST what she's done.

How upsetting. I'm sorry, OP. It will grow back and you will have to train DD to say no.

contrary13 · 07/02/2022 01:45

"Could it be that exH gets MIL to brush dd hair and she complains about knots? I can imagine that might be a reason why she decided to go for it. I used to keep suggesting a hair cut to one of mine for years because of the hassle of brushing it."

My grandfather had my waist-length/never been cut hair shorn by his barber to a shaggy ear length effort at a girl's hair cut, when I was 6 and staying with my grandparents for the summer holidays from school (yep; all 6 weeks of them!) without my parents permission almost 40 years ago. When they turned up to collect me at the start of September, he presented my mother (his daughter) with a plastic bag that held the two bunches which had literally been cut off just above their bobbles.

And my mother went ballistic.

Years later, I asked him why he'd done it and he said that he literally couldn't stand idly by and watch me melt-down in absolute terror every time my grandmother or oldest brother (big age gap, he was 20-ish at the time and was raised by my grandparents from birth, pretty much) attempted to brush my hair - so he did something about it. What I never told any of them, but often wonder whether my grandfather knew anyway, was that my terror was because my mother took to beating me with the 1970s wooden hairbrush she used every time I squirmed or cried out when she encountered a pug (and she would yank the brush through regardless - it's a wonder I wasn't bloody bald because of her!), when I was little more than a baby (my hair has a natural wave to it and is very fine, so... pug/knot central!).

Okay, yes; it was a bad haircut, and I definitely looked like a boy - but to this day, I have never had hair past my shoulders since my grandfather stepped in and said "enough!" (My mother still used him for the free child care, though...)

Having said that, however, my ex-MIL had my then-toddler son's baby curls (first haircut) shorn into the "neater" short-back-and-sides which she preferred when he was under-3. His hair was never knotted, he never cried when it was brushed, and he left my house one day looking like a toddler - and returned looking like a miniature adult. I've never forgiven her for that, and he's 17 now - and insists on a Peaky Blinders style cut (his hair = his choice, I just pay for it). That really was a power-play on her part, and even her son admitted it was when I cried over it. Yes, it's "just hair" but she stole his first hair-cut from me and from her own son, too (we were together at the time). There've been other efforts at undermining me over the years, but she's reaping the consequences now, because my son refuses to see her unless he's forced into it by his Dad - and then he'll turn into a grumpy teen, so she doesn't get the benefit of his actual personality at all. Which is a shame, but... it's down to her. Not me.

So, I can see it from two out of the three sides. I just hope I will never be that MIL or grandmother who dares to think that they have the control over the child's hair, rather than the woman who actually carried, gave birth to and is raising them.

So yeah; power-play on the ex-MIL's part, OP, and I'm sorry but it'll ramp up the older your daughter gets (taking her to have her ears pierced, without checking with you - who'll have to do the aftercare - for example; my mother did that with my then 9-year-old daughter and it wasn't fun, because my daughter hadn't banked on it hurting and they could only do one correctly, with the other at a definite angle!). Unless you lay out some ground rules about both parents having to be consulted regarding changes to the children's appearances, of course, and you make it clear that she had her time to be a mother; now that's your job.

Nanny0gg · 07/02/2022 02:02

@Singlemum90

Also ex was not asked by his mum either, told after the fact that it was arranged & didn't disagree, just didn't care either way
I bet she does your daughter s hair and couldn't be arsed with it being long.

How old is your DD? Can she say No in future?

phoenixrosehere · 07/02/2022 02:08

I think most kids at some point have an accidental chop - self inflicted, peer inflicted, super glue inflicted, interfering gran inflicted is new but you and daughter will be used to it in a few days and she'll know to say no thanks next time.

And? MIL planned this in advance without consulting either parent because she thought she knew better than the parents of a child that was not hers, that she knew better than her son and the mother of her granddaughter who is the one that does her hair. Also, who is to say this grandmother would have listened to her granddaughter if she had said no.

It’s more than about hair, it is the lack of respect, consent, and crossing of boundaries. MIL had her children and had her say there. That does not mean it continues on to her grandchildren.

Nomoreusernames1244 · 07/02/2022 08:08

It’s hair. All this “crowning glory” bullshit is weird IMO.

My kids have been taught to ask for what they want at a hairdresser. It doesn’t matter who takes them, we discuss what they want, and If they get too shy I insist at least they say yes verbally to the hairdresser.

What I find weird is that hair is such a big deal to parents, especially mums, that hairdressers will often override a childs wishes in favour of mum.

My dc wanted short hair at one point and we had a tough time persuading a hairdresser to cut it. If dh takes her they’re even more hesitant, because they worry about what I want.

It’s hair. If a child is sat in the hairdressers seat they should be checking with the child what they want.

WomanStanleyWoman · 07/02/2022 09:14

Whenever these threads come up (worryingly often) there’s a chorus of people saying, ‘It’s hair; hair grows’. Do any of you saying this really think the rest of us don’t understand how hair works? I’m sure the OP knows her daughter is a human child and not a Girl’s World doll.

The fact that hair grows back ISN’T RELEVANT. The issue is, this should have been a decision the child made, or at least discussed with her parents. She’s 8 - it’s not like she’s too little to have some idea of what she’d like her hair to look like.

It also really frustrates me when some MNers completely fail to read even the most basic information. The OP made it perfectly clear on several occasions that her ex didn’t instigate the haircut; his mother did. Yet still people trot out ‘Why shouldn’t her dad have a say in his daughter’s hair?!’ Is it really too difficult to just read?

Her ex mil is the chid's grandma?! Hardly a bloody stranger.

I don’t think anyone has suggested she was a random stranger who just came at the child brandishing scissors in the middle of Sainsbury’s. The point is, it still wasn’t her place.

SartresSoul · 07/02/2022 09:18

YANBU, this sounds like abusive behaviour. If it were just a small trim then fair enough but she’s totally changed the style against your DD’s wishes. Very wrong, I’d be fuming too.

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