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To ask what you’re doing awake post-midnight? Part 2: Insomnia Strikes Back

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5YearsLeft · 05/02/2022 11:24

Bit awkward to start this in the middle of the day, but I wanted to be able to link it on the old thread before it completely fills. Meanwhile, even though right now it’s not post-midnight, if you’re having a day-after hangover from insomnia, feel free to post. Whether it’s from poorly children or babies or pets or OHs, whether it’s grief or fear or anxiety or other losses, whether it’s work stress or home stress or just LIFE stress, we get it. You’re not yelling into the void; you’re sharing with people who have been stuck wide awake, too.

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Wallywobbles · 22/02/2022 09:39

Well lamb swallowed about 200ml this morning. It's a long and painful process. She is standing a bit.We will see.

5YearsLeft · 22/02/2022 13:55

@Wallywobbles Oh! Some slight good news! Like the world’s most annoying commercials say: every little bit.

DH sent this to me and wanted to share it with anyone on the board struggling today, or anyone on the board not struggling but just living through today. It’s about 22 seconds long and will require you turn on your volume, but it made me actually laugh like a complete loon (you don’t need Twitter to see it):
twitter.com/nocontexthumans/status/1496117362176798725?s=21

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catwomando · 22/02/2022 17:45

😂😂😂😁😂😁😁

Wallywobbles · 22/02/2022 19:54

One of our young ewes has has a mini lamb. I'll try and show a photo of it next to a normal lamb. Rather unexpected. The mum is the most surprised!

Wallywobbles · 22/02/2022 21:35

Seriously lacking in artistic merit but here is the new mini lamb. Mums not keen on having anyone touch her teats si not necessarily an easy ride for the crevette but she's determined.

The photo for comparison is with the poorly lamb in her jacket.

5YearsLeft · 22/02/2022 22:35

Welcome to a very early start of the afternoon midnight thread. I’m posting now because I’m having a headache and I’m not hot with it.

If you’re suffering from anything, whether it’s your anxiety scresming in your brain or children screaming at your face, we understansd and you’re always welcome to share here in the thread. In the course of two threads, we’ve had people struggling with all sorts, so whatever you’re facing,

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5YearsLeft · 22/02/2022 22:39

Whoops posted too early amd with lots of typos.

… so whatever you’re facing, you’re not alone in being stuck awake with it, and you can share it here.

I’ll hopefully be around on and off but I’ve got to get rid of this damn headache before my doctor tomorrow at 9am. Piss poor timing. I also really hope this isn’t part of my disease progressing, because I don’t think I can focus on more and more headaches.

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5YearsLeft · 22/02/2022 22:40

@Wallywobbles That lamb is SO tiny! Thanks for sharing, as always, something that many of us would never see otherwise.

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Chichimcgee · 22/02/2022 23:42

@Wallywobbles I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you and that lamb is super cute!

5YearsLeft · 23/02/2022 00:02

Oh crap and since I’m awake for the WC before I forgelt…

@Coroico97 GOOD LUCK FOR YOUR SURGERY TOMORROW!!!!! 🎊🎉 Maybe you’re a bit nervous, or just completely relieved, but I do hope it all goes well.

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Tallisimo · 23/02/2022 00:15

[quote 5YearsLeft]@Tallisimo My FitBit sleep report got too depressing so I chucked it, ha. It was saying I was never getting any deep sleep and I was going, “Don’t you think I KNOW that???” While I was forgetting my husband’s name and accidentally pouring milk on my cell phone. I do think it’s the pain that keeps us from being able to reach deep sleep; the act of “tossing and turning” is probably what had your Fitbit reporting that you were awake when you were in light sleep. Mine used to just give me a sleep report that was the equivalent of: “I guess you’ll sleep when you’re dead?” QUELLE IRONIE. Grin[/quote]
😂 I def am properly awake on and off throughout the night, unfortunately- I know because I check the time, maybe walk around the bedroom.it’s very frustrating. But of course, you all know this!

Tallisimo · 23/02/2022 00:17

@Coroico97

Hello all! I know the thread is closed but I can’t message at night because I can only get comfortable in one position and I can’t lift my head up or use my phone when settled. Doesn’t mean I haven’t been awake though! Operation day after tomorrow. Can’t wait as codeine making me feel seriously sick and a bit whoozy. Sending best wishes to you @*@5YearsLeft@ and @Tallisimo* specially. X
Wishing you well for you op, my lovely, can’t wait to hear how you get on x
Tallisimo · 23/02/2022 00:18

@Wallywobbles I hope the lamb makes it x

MrsGlum · 23/02/2022 04:23

Hello everyone, herre I am wide awake again thanks to the mirtazapine withdrawal I am going through.
Heart palpitations were so bad at 1:30am I gave iin and took 1//2 a sleeping tablet which got me off until now
I am so desperate for a full night of natural sleep. Sad

catwomando · 23/02/2022 04:23

@Wallywobbles this is the week of tiny newborns, what with your tiny lamb and @Chichimcgee s tiny new baby Iris. . Both beautiful 😻

I was sound asleep having really weird dreams then just woke up. Sigh. Fat 🐈‍⬛ is happy though. She hears me and trots over and them gently bites me until I stroke her. She has really thick, luscious fur so it's quite soothing, until my tennis elbow starts to,complain - avoiding. Cat stroking wasn't on the physios lost of banned activities 😂

@5YearsLeft hopefully this is just a normal stand-alone headache and that you feel bright and sprightly for the vampire visit tomorrow. How as the shouty/shitty french inspector lady?

@JollyHolly30 did you manage to get treatment?

@Coroico97 echoing others' good wishes for the op.

@MrsGlum I hope you are managing to,get some zzzzzzs

I'm starting countdown to dr HRT appointment in a few days. Am expecting to be put straight on meds, and for them to be an instant miracle cure for my insomnia. Maybe I'm deluded but a girl can dream, right?

catwomando · 23/02/2022 04:28

@MrsGlum cross post. Gah! You are awake. I was really hoping that you were managing some sleep. At least you managed a few hours.

Got me thinking that research shows that incredibly intelligent, over-performers tend to be the ones not needing as much sleep as the general population. Maybe we are all genius-level individuals who are just SO FABULOUS that we don't need to render ourselves unconscious for hours every night to keep up with everyone else? Grin

MrsGlum · 23/02/2022 04:41

@catwomando sadly I think I’m only awake because of the meds withdrawal otherwise I would be sound asleep for my full 8 hours just like the rest of the averagely intelligent! Grin
I joke but honestly it’s torture. Doesn’t help that I now feel sick too Sad
I wish I’d never started them because I think they may be the end of me.

MrsGlum · 23/02/2022 04:44

@catwomando I hope your HRT does help with your sleep. My SIL swears by it. I tried it but it sent my anxiety through the roof so I couldn’t tolerate it.

Daisychainsandglitter · 23/02/2022 04:46

Worrying about work. I've had a couple of days off and worrying what today will bring. I feel so tired by it all.

Wallywobbles · 23/02/2022 05:39

@5YearsLeft have you tried Donormyl? They are over the counter sleeping pills and the only reason I ever sleep. Im not sure if they're available in Switzerland but if you can get yourself to the French side they are a godsend. They are old style antihistamines.

5YearsLeft · 23/02/2022 06:44

I’M AWAKE. I actually fell back asleep at midnight pretty quickly and then awakened this morning around 630 my time, so 1.5 hours before my alarm. Not bad! And my headache is maybe 90% gone, so here’s hoping. Especially since I need to get through the blood test gauntlet today.

@Tallisimo Ah! I thought you meant it registered 1.5 hours awake during the time you DID actually manage some sleep. Well, never mind then. Back to the drawing board. Ha.

@MrsGlum Can I ask what about the sleeping tablets makes it so that your sleep doesn’t feel right? Is it that you still wake up in the morning and you’re not rested enough? Or you’re still groggy? I know quite a few people who have to take sleeping tablets with some regularity for pain and they won’t probably be off them until death, and the goal of their sleeping tablets is to make the sleep seem as natural as possible, so I’m wondering if maybe there’s something with your sleeping tablets that’s unpleasant for you. It seems awful that you should have to take a sleeping tablet and then STILL not feel rested. Sad

@catwomando Oh yes, I’m an absolute genius! I dropped the top of my teabag in my boiling hot tea, I was seriously holding my teaspoon, and I still tried to stick my fingers in the tea for a split second before I used the spoon to fish it out. REAL WOMEN OF GENIUS MOMENT.

@Daisychainsandglitter Oh gosh. That can be completely draining, worrying about what comes next, and having the worry hang over your days off, a bit like (as a child) going to a fun park at the weekend when you know you have to get a tooth pulled on Monday. I do hope that maybe whatever is happening at work can either be resolved or maybe you can start very quietly looking for a new job, if whatever is stressing you there cannot be fixed by time, or speaking to HR, or moving departments, or any other options.

@Wallywobbles I haven't. On this side of The Wall (of course, I mean the magnificent French-Swiss Wall which separates our two countries), they do the same - use an old school anti histamine as a sleeping medication, but call it Benocten, and the ingredient is diphenhydramine (what they used to have in Benadryl in the UK and they used to joke it would knock you out for a day), instead of the doxylamine in Donormyl. Actually, I’ve had to use it as a regular anti histamine, because my tongue has been swelling up again post COVID (this happened after the last COVID too; I was suddenly allergic to… air???) and it knocks me out for about 1.5 hours and my tongue swelling goes down, fortunately.

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MrsGlum · 23/02/2022 07:03

@5YearsLeft my sleeping tablets are Zopiclone and it’s as though they just anaesthetise me by switching me off for a few hours and back on again. I can almost set my clock by them. So I only ever get 3-4 hours sleep and then I’m awake again with anxiety and palpitations. Consequently i feel exhausted all day only to go through it all again the next night. My GP doesn’t like prescribing them for long so I have to ration them. On nights I don’t have one I’m literally switched on all the time.
My natural sleep ability seems to have been completely destroyed by coming off the mirtazapine. It’s absolute torture to be honest and I’m a mess Sad

5YearsLeft · 23/02/2022 07:11

@MrsGlum Ah, ok, I understand. So they’re not really working then, is the problem. Because if they’re still only giving you 3-4 hours of sleep with palpitations at either side then that doesn’t work. You’re still in the sleep equivalent of torture, yes (you need to sleep 6 full hours to be considered safe to fly a helicopter, ha). Must run, but will write more in this later. I think the issue is the palpitations. You need something for them more than the sleep maybe?

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Coroico97 · 23/02/2022 22:43

@5YearsLeft @Tallisimo @catwomando and others kind enough to wish me well for today. I am out of surgery and I am pain free. Was offered morphine but so t need anything. I am upright, turning over at will, just because I can, and have at last eaten a sandwich after 24 hours. It is a total game changer. Hopefully home day after tomorrow. I have to be very careful not to undo the good work and take it easy but I feel amazing - if shattered.

@5YearsLeft I hope your various hospital things went okay today.

Thank you so very much for your amazing support. I can’t tell you how helpful and reassuring it was to know others were up and suffering - mostly in much worse ways than I was. Love to you all.

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