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To wonder how you feel today if you voted for Boris Johnson at the last election?

545 replies

Readyforthegoodlife · 31/01/2022 16:20

It’s absolutely no surprise that Boris is behaving in this way but I cannot actually believe that we have a prime minister like this. He is utterly morally bankrupt. If you voted for him how do you feel now?

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Cheesecakeandwineinasuitcase · 31/01/2022 22:15

I feel relieved that Jeremy Corbyn and his far left Momentum following didn’t get in and I feel I voted for the least worst option at the time. I wasn’t happy with any of the parties at the time of the last election. Had I have voted Lib Dem which would have been my preferred option it would have been a lost vote against Corbyn, John MacDonald and Momentum. Do I think Boris is a good and honest leader? No I don’t. If Kier Starmer had been leader of the Labour Party at the time then I would probably have voted Labour. Corbyn and Momentum pushed Labour too far to the left for me to feel able to vote Labour. I do think Johnson has handled the roll out of the vaccine program well. Isn’t Corbyn’s brother an avid anti vaxer who is fairly extreme in his views? Generally the apple doesn’t fall from the tree... I think the tories need to get rid of Boris if they want to stay in power. He is unelectable now.

StoneofDestiny · 31/01/2022 22:19

The ridiculous safety net that is thrown to Johnson on here - 'things would be worse under Corbyn'. How the hell does anybody even think that is a normal comparison to make - Corbyn isn't responsible for any of this mess, he has never been PM.

Johnson is responsible.

MasterGland · 31/01/2022 22:22

I'm an ordinary conservative voter. To answer the questionI was not keen on Boris Johnson then, and I am less keen on him now. I think Rishi Sunak will probably lead the party into the next election.

RedMozzieYellowMozzie · 31/01/2022 22:23

I will when the Tories are a thing of the past. I don't vote for vile and aggressive. I vote for everyone. Even the twats that are happy with Johnson. But it doesn't mean I need to keep my views quiet.

How sad for you that it looks like they're going to be around for a long time to come - because Labour can't tell their arse from their elbow.

Maybe your life would be better if you didn't spend it being aggressive to strangers on the Internet

Kendodd · 31/01/2022 22:33

Just see someone on the news saying they voted for Johnson at the last election.
Interviewer asked - what did you expect?
Answer - someone decent.
WTF?
If you want someone decent don't vote for a racist, misogynist, liar then.
Fucking idiot.

Dimondsareforever · 31/01/2022 22:37

@Twillow
The vaccine roll out was great along with boosters. I think he took some brave descsions in opening and keeping open the economy. We would be in a bad (well worse) placeotherwise. I truly think labour would want us all locked down for as long as possible (like the left wing parties did in Scotland and wales).
As I said, it’s a shame.

Kendodd · 31/01/2022 22:38

Johnson's comments about Jimmy Saville today
What did he say?
I know he's described investigating historical child abuse as "spiffing money up the wall".

Iggly · 31/01/2022 22:40

[quote Dimondsareforever]@Twillow
The vaccine roll out was great along with boosters. I think he took some brave descsions in opening and keeping open the economy. We would be in a bad (well worse) placeotherwise. I truly think labour would want us all locked down for as long as possible (like the left wing parties did in Scotland and wales).
As I said, it’s a shame.[/quote]
Yeah we’ve done great with one of the highest death tolls in Europe.

And please do some fact checking on vaccine rollout! It’s also negligent the lack of vaccines for children.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 31/01/2022 22:43

@StoneofDestiny

Funny how so many on here said they voted for their local candidate (unrelated to their thoughts on the party leader, Boris Johnson), but so many say they voted Tory because they didn't want Corbyn (suddenly not thinking they could vote for the local Labour candidate and it would be unrelated to the Labour Leader)
Funny that isn't it 😂
AllThingsServeTheBeam · 31/01/2022 22:46

@RedMozzieYellowMozzie

I will when the Tories are a thing of the past. I don't vote for vile and aggressive. I vote for everyone. Even the twats that are happy with Johnson. But it doesn't mean I need to keep my views quiet.

How sad for you that it looks like they're going to be around for a long time to come - because Labour can't tell their arse from their elbow.

Maybe your life would be better if you didn't spend it being aggressive to strangers on the Internet

It's not just sad for me duck. It's sad for the whole country. Especially our kids. I aren't aggressive. At all. I sad one posters life must be shit. How is that aggressive? Voting for Tories is more aggressive than that.
AllThingsServeTheBeam · 31/01/2022 22:49

And my life is pretty shit. You know why? Tory cuts. Try not being able to walk at 30 because you've been on waiting lists for years. Yeah, I have a right to be angry.

TomPinch · 31/01/2022 22:53

The vaccine roll-out was good at first but it's lagged. A Google search tells me this re fully vaccinated people as a % of the population.

UK 72%
Germany 73.9%
France 76.2%
Italy 77.3%
Spain 80.8%
Portugal 89.3%
Australia 78.6%

In fact the only major developed country with lower rates than the UK that I can see is the US on 64%. I remember the Government making a good deal of the fact that the UK was vaccinating more quickly than any EU state. And while I accept that the Government can't force people to get vaccinated they have prime responsibility for encouraging this and making it easy. Here, for example, lots of employers, including the Public Service, have said that failure to get vaccinated without reasonable excuse means you get fired. The UK government seems a million miles from this.

ThinWomansBrain · 31/01/2022 22:54

there are 72k registered voters in Uxbridge and South Ruislip constituency.
So 72k out of 47.6 million voters in the UK would have had the opportunity to "vote for Boris"
Entirely different (possibly as daft, but everyone is entitled to thier vote and opinion) from voting for whatever conservative candidate is standing in your constituency

The joys of our first past the post electoral system.

LadyWithLapdog · 31/01/2022 22:55

I'm not moving on. Too much has happened to just sweep under the carpet. This anger will last and last. I know it's not healthy but I despise the vile Tories and those who voted them in and who continue to piss on everyone else.

caringcarer · 31/01/2022 23:22

I voted for Boris as Starmer made it clear he wanted to reverse Brexit by having a second referendum and having an option of rejoin EU. So he had absolutely no respect for the collective voice of UK. It did not fit his agenda so he tried to sabotage it.

I hope Boris stays and gets on with running country.

If we had Starmer we would be in worse mess as he wanted lockdown to never end and was calling for yet another lockdown after Xmas. Much like me Scotland and Wales had.

We just need to get on with things, get vaccinated and get the country open and moving again. It will take years to get back to where we were before first lockdown. We need to get back to business. Boris needs to get the country moving.

Twillow · 31/01/2022 23:22

@Kendodd

Well *@Russianspy101* seems absolutely delighted with the job Johnson is doing. I'm sure Putin is as well.
The irony has escaped you, @Kendodd.
RussianSpy101 · 31/01/2022 23:31

😂😂😂

caringcarer · 31/01/2022 23:38

Boris might have chose the wrong wallpaper or had some cake at a work meeting. I really can't care about that. What I do care about is that because of Brexit we were able to order our own vaccines. We got them largely before the rest of Europe and that alone saved so many lives. The Conservatives also gave us an the furlough scheme which saved many jobs and stopped the economy crashing right back to naught. I saw a few days ago that despite Starmer claiming if Boris stopped furlough when he did unemployment would skyrocket when in fact there is now less people in unemployed than at the beginning of of pandemic. On my big important decisions Boris has got it right. On wallpaper and cakes not right but we need to move on.

wanttomarryamillionaire · 31/01/2022 23:45

Do all the left leaning posters spouting pure bile and vitriol on this thread not realise that you and people like you are part of the problem? The average person has turned so far away from the left because of attitudes like this. Being called evil and scum etc because they don't agree with your way of thinking. This kind of behaviour is linked to Labour and Labour supporters. I never ever see right leaning/ tory supporters hurling abuse at left wingers but its a shame the same can't be said from the other perspective. I think Boris won because he promised to get brexit done but had that not been a factor he still would have won because your average person is just sick to the back teeth of the left/Labour. The decline started with Blair and its got steadily worse since.

OmgIThinkILikeYou · 31/01/2022 23:53

@AllThingsServeTheBeam

It's falling on deaf ears *@Ostryga*. They aren't worth the time. Anyone who voted for Boris and is happy with their choice deserves personal attacks as far as I am concerned for all the points you've made and more. But the posters who need to hear it don't give a shit.
Do you actually want Labour to ever win? Because you are doing an excellent job of turning people off of Labour and straight back to conservatives. So much so I think you might be a tory bot tbh.

Stop insulting people who voted differently to you, we need yo make Labour a more attractive opportunity for people to actually want to vote for them. Making all of us look like judgemental twats is doing us no favours.

TomPinch · 01/02/2022 01:48

It's true that the vitriol comes from the left, bit ISTM that if you vote Conservative you have to defend some cruel policies that have had no benefit, such as austerity which has driven people into hardship, made councils slumlords and retarded the UK's economic recovery. I'm not a left winger, but I can't see that the Tories have handled the British economy any better than a Labour government under Brown or Miliband would have. Cameron, May and Johnson have, all for different reasons, all been notably poorer prime ministers than their immediate predecessors.

From where I sit the UK has really decreased in status since 2010. Perhaps that's a good thing given its tendencies to get involved in unwise and illegal wars but it's not much of a testament to the Conservative government. They've pissed off the Americans, pissed off the EU, and haven't been making any friends despite having more latitude in foreign policy due to Brexit. These are all things that the Tories are meant to be good at.

TomPinch · 01/02/2022 02:00

The Conservatives also gave us an the furlough scheme which saved many jobs and stopped the economy crashing right back to naught.

As far as I'm aware all rich countries operated a furlough scheme. We certainly had one. I don't think you can possibly say that the UK wouldn't have had one if the Tories hadn't been in office.

What I do care about is that because of Brexit we were able to order our own vaccines. We got them largely before the rest of Europe and that alone saved so many lives

True about the vaccines (I daresay others will disagree) but if it's about saving lives, the UK gvt's response to covid generally looks haphazard and slow, and that not only cost lives but must harmed the economy due to workers getting ill.

Down here, we had lots of moaning and complaining from the National Party about lockdowns but the truth is that our economy has been going just great because we had a really hard lockdown, eliminated the virus for over a year, and then went about our lives with few or no restrictions.

The UK government's prevaricating sacrificed lives and the economy.

WeValueYourPrivacy · 01/02/2022 02:28

It was obvious from the start what a lying self serving piece of shit Bojo was. There's decades of evidence.

I think there's a large percentage of the electorate that doesn't mind Tories embezzling the country as long as they're giving foreigns or snowflakes or the greens a kicking.

Its just this time it's obvious the Tories have screwed them over too. Well done lads.

LadyWithLapdog · 01/02/2022 02:47

Can we put these lies to bed? About brexit and vaccines and furloughs? Honestly, people, you've been had by a charlatan and a half. All because you couldn't face living next door to some East Europeans or whatever nationality you disliked most.

DdraigGoch · 01/02/2022 03:22

The issue of who attended what party and whether cake was consumed is incredibly far down my list of concerns. Putin is on the warpath, the public finances are in a sorry state following the pandemic, taxes are rising, we are worryingly reliant on gas for power instead of investing in nuclear, our public transport needs decarbonising, polluters are being paid to repurpose productive farms as conifer plantations to greenwash their emissions, the police are too busy on Twitter to deal with actual crimes, various organisations have abandoned basic safeguarding, the sea is full of plastic, the rainforest is disappearing, women are being pushed under a bus...

Many of those issues can be laid at the feet of the government. So perhaps I should look elsewhere to see if someone else can do a better job. Most of the mainstream political parties have identical policies (or lack of) on many of these issues. In quite a few cases the opposition parties have even worse policies; better policies are very thin on the ground. So I am stuck with the least worst option.

Bear in mind that I live in Wales, so I've first hand experience of life under a Labour government. Same shit, different tie.

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