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to think the common idea that Diana was murdered is absurd

438 replies

makkapacca · 29/01/2022 17:01

Heard a journalist on the radio the other day speculating it was not an accident and heard others saying the same. AIBU to think people like this are complete idiots?

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AlDanvers · 29/01/2022 18:16

I think Diana dying actually made things harder for Charles and Camellia. And the RF. She has practically become sainted.

Georgeskitchen · 29/01/2022 18:16

I've watched documentaries giving both sides: accident/murder and both actually made some seemingly plausible points.
At the end of the day, however , Diana died for the simple reason that she declined the Scotland Yard protection she was entitled to being mother of the future Monarch.
Royal protection officers would never have let her get in that car with Dodi.
Such a sad and preventable tragedy

ClariceQuiff · 29/01/2022 18:17

Funnily enough I was browsing in The Works today and saw a paperback devoted to that very theory. I flicked through it and the 'reasoning' was all along the lines of 'Charles looked agitated the previous day'.

I didn't buy it - either the book or the theory.

Ericaequites · 29/01/2022 18:17

I believe Diana was murdered out of convenience to the Royal Family. In their eyes, Dodi was a huge embarrassment. What if Wills and Harry had a Muslim half-brother? It’s notable that they couldn’t find a Jaws of Life in all of Paris when every quarter mile stock car bullring had one at the time. There’s too much suspicious about her death; foul play may have been involved.

PAFMO · 29/01/2022 18:17

The idea that her dying made it easier for Charles and Camilla is also ridiculous. It did the opposite. Diana having a new relationship (albeit a recent one) got her out of the way which would have made it easier for Charles. As it was, they waited another 8 years before marrying.

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makkapacca · 29/01/2022 18:18

Oh bless you, no, it’s really not. This is why people fall for it. Such naivety

ok so you you suggesting along with your condescending that a few posters make up 1000s of accounts merely to make a point?

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PAFMO · 29/01/2022 18:19

@makkapacca

Oh bless you, no, it’s really not. This is why people fall for it. Such naivety

ok so you you suggesting along with your condescending that a few posters make up 1000s of accounts merely to make a point?

Which posters are making up 1000s of accounts about what?
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makkapacca · 29/01/2022 18:19

At the end of the day, however , Diana died for the simple reason that she declined the Scotland Yard protection she was entitled to being mother of the future Monarch.
Royal protection officers would never have let her get in that car with Dodi

didn't she lose this as she lost her place in the family?

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layladomino · 29/01/2022 18:22

I have never had a conversation about Diana with someone who thought she was murdered. And I think this is on account of:

-Noone benefitted from her dying
-If she'd worn a seatbelt she would't have died - that was her choice
-there is no evidence (and yes I have watched a documentary).

If you get in a car with a driver who's been drinking, don't put on a seat belt and then the driver drives at speed, it's an unfortunate but quite predictable ending I'm afraid.

The conspiracy theories are so outlandish that most people see them for what they are. There are always those who love a conspiracy though.

Georgeskitchen · 29/01/2022 18:22

@makkapacca

*At the end of the day, however , Diana died for the simple reason that she declined the Scotland Yard protection she was entitled to being mother of the future Monarch. Royal protection officers would never have let her get in that car with Dodi*

didn't she lose this as she lost her place in the family?

I don't think so. I believe she was still entitled to it being Williams mother, but she refused, because she wanted to be "her own woman"
ClariceQuiff · 29/01/2022 18:23

@PAFMO

The idea that her dying made it easier for Charles and Camilla is also ridiculous. It did the opposite. Diana having a new relationship (albeit a recent one) got her out of the way which would have made it easier for Charles. As it was, they waited another 8 years before marrying.
Yes, they were in the process of a very gradual rehabilitation of Camilla in the public eye. She'd been due to host a high profile event for the Alzheimers charity she was patron of, a few days after Di's death - had to be cancelled.

Diana's 'canonisation' set the acceptability of Charles and Camilla's relationship back by several years. There were Di fanatics who blamed Camilla for Di's death on the grounds that if it weren't for Camilla Di would still be with Charles etc.

TroysMammy · 29/01/2022 18:24

It's a ridiculous theory only believed by idiots. I'm sure other ways would have been used to murder someone as a car crash could go either way. What if she had survived the car crash? Would there have been other attempts to kill her until she was finally dead?

RussiasGreatestLoveMachine · 29/01/2022 18:24

The people who think Diana was murdered are no doubt also the type to think James Hewitt is Harry’s father.

Even though James and Harry look nothing alike and if there was an ounce of truth in that nonsense, one of the Red Tops (or anyone else who stood to make a load of money from such a revelation) would have outed it by now…

Stookeen · 29/01/2022 18:24

@OmgIThinkILikeYou

I think it's quite a common opinion, I see it online all the time.
Yeah, along with the Queen being a lizard, Finland being imaginary and Elvis and Shergar hanging out together there.
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makkapacca · 29/01/2022 18:25

It's like saying "Why did the Kennedys have such terrible things happen to them as a family?" Well the answer is because the lives they led as a family: in politics during a volatile period, serving in wars, being high-profile enough to pilot their own private plane made them peculiarly vulnerable to, respectively: assassination, death in action, crashing a plane. Sad, but there you have it.

Diana's lifestyle became such that she ended up relying for her personal safety on some dubious playboy with a driver who turned out to be pissed and a security man who didn't even notice.

I might say that as the removal of her HRH status led to the withdrawal of her police protection, which would have been much more efficient than Fayed's "protection" turned out to be (you wouldn't imagine a Met Police driver being pissed behind the wheel), it could therefore be argued that the removal of Royal privileges contributed directly to her death. But she had a brain of her own, she chose to rely on Fayed's security. She chose not to put her seatbelt on. Shame.

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HomeHomeInTheRange · 29/01/2022 18:26

OP; IMO YANBU. People who believe this are complete idiots.

And the sheer number of complete idiots (whether holding individual accounts or represented by troll bots) does not make conspiracy theories any more plausible.

Idiots like to idiot.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 29/01/2022 18:26

It would be a spectacularly crap way to murder someone, that depended on them not wearing their seat belt, the crash happening at a particular point, hiring a drunk driver who died himself etc. Just not the perfect crime!

If they were going to kill someone it made more sense to kill of Camilla’s husband as there would then be not objection to their marriage. Not that I’m advocating it!

Allycott · 29/01/2022 18:29

@480Widdio

I don’t know a single person who thinks she was murdered! You would have to be a bit on the thick side to think she was.
I don't think it was a total accident and I can assure you I'm not thick. I'm intelligent enough no to rubbish other opinions - unlike yourself.
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SantaHat · 29/01/2022 18:32

Even though James and Harry look nothing alike and not to mention the fact that she didn’t meet James Hewitt until a couple of years after Harry was born (but as many have said, why let the facts get in the way of a trashy story).

Chasingaftermidnight · 29/01/2022 18:33

I don’t know anyone who genuinely thinks she was assassinated.

But I thought the main reason for the conspiracy theory was that she herself predicted it - didn’t she write a letter saying something along the lines of ‘[blank] is planning an accident in my car’?

OmgIThinkILikeYou · 29/01/2022 18:35

That’s not really reliable. You could see 20 accounts from the same person or bots saying something that give an impression there are 20 people who have a particular opinion but it’s not necessarily true

Hmm maybe, I didn't say I thought the idea was true, just that its a common view. There are thousands of videos on tiktok of people saying it, looking into it. Lots on YouTube also, I'm not talking anonymous forums, although I am sure there are millions.

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makkapacca · 29/01/2022 18:40

But I thought the main reason for the conspiracy theory was that she herself predicted it - didn’t she write a letter saying something along the lines of ‘[blank] is planning an accident in my car

no that's tabloid shite along with the m15 ''witnesses'' that has no substance.

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OmgIThinkILikeYou · 29/01/2022 18:41

There are also a lot of books and documentaries based on the theory. I'm not arguing that it isn't a stupid theory, it obviously is. But that doesn't stop millions of people believing it to be true.

Hoppinggreen · 29/01/2022 18:41

@makkapacca

because everybody i know thinks it was a murder.
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