to think the common idea that Diana was murdered is absurd

[makkapacca]

Heard a journalist on the radio the other day speculating it was not an accident and heard others saying the same. AIBU to think people like this are complete idiots?

Also, there is no way that Diana could have foreseen his making poor choices

why is it a poor choice? He did what was right for him, if he's happy with the outcome then no it's not a poor choice.

@lockthedoor36

Also, I doubt she had that much money. Her children recently auctioned off some of her jewels

She left 20m million in her estate- 13.6 million of it went to charity, 7.6 million to her kids.

I think I am confusing Margaret with the Queen Mum who left a reported £14 million in a trust fund to her great-grandchildren in her will to help support them, but with the understanding that Harry would receive more than his brother Prince William.

The Queen mother had £3 million debt with Coutts bank when she died which the Queen paid off...she never went short, however I don’t suppose that made up for loosing her husband at a young age due to his older brother being an arse.

The Queen mother had £3 million debt with Coutts bank when she died which the Queen paid off...she never went short, however I don’t suppose that made up for loosing her husband at a young age due to his older brother being an arse

You mean the tax payer paid off.

Is this true though? I have googled it and have seen various report like she left 70 million to the Queen so I suppose it's anybody's guess. Also why would the Queen have to pay it? Wouldn't the debt die with her?

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime Edward has been given a palace to live in and gets the security already there on the Royal Estate. He doesn't need as much money.
Of course no one needs millions. But Diana came from a rich family. Most rich people want their own kids to be rich.

Oh. Right. My information is out of date: "The Queen’s youngest son and his wife, Sophie, Countess of Wessex, spend most of their time in Surrey at Bagshot Park with their two children. Prince Edward leased the property a year before getting married." was in 2018. They actually live in the Mansion House, which he paid more than a million quid to renovate, and pay £90,000 a year for it. So no, not "given".

And he gets nothing from the civil list, because it no longer exists: he lives on his mother's charity, in effect. That seems to me to be quite a long way off £14,000,000 to do as he wants with.

I have just noticed that Edward has got married once and stayed married to the same person for over twenty years, which is better than his siblings have managed, or his aunt. And when he did cut loose from the Firm, he got an actual job, and didn't just fanny about being a Celebrity. I'd say he was probably the best of that somewhat ropey bunch.

Ive not heard anyone talk about this in any regular fashion for donkeys years. So I cant see how its a common view...let it go, Diana has been dead for years

I would disagree with this on the basis that the Crown has sparked a massive interest in the Royals actually and made them appeal to a much larger audience .

I would also say it has made people more interested in their history and scandals so I strongly disagree that people wouldn't be talking about her or the accident currently especially as the last series of the Crown heavily featured Diana.

@gunnersgold

I think it's more to do with the fact the fireman who did cpr on her said she was alive and talking when he left her and was very shocked when he heard she died. I don't think it was an assassination because had she had her belt on she might be ok today !

Yes I agree - I met the two chaps who were driving the ambulance and they said the same. 😞

I don't really see how leaving money to charity in your will says anything about your generosity. It's not as if you're depriving yourself of anything by doing so.

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime No one else could get a palace for £90,000 rent a year. And people renovate where they live all the time.
The RF is supposed to pay the market rate. But they dont.

Bagshot Park - It is believed to have a whopping 120 rooms, and it was, in fact, demolished and rebuilt in 1879. The Grade-II building has majestic interiors, and it is filled with ornate furnishings. Outside is just as spectacular with a strikingly beautiful exterior, 51 acres of land, a private lake and several stables.

Meanwhile a 9 bed, 2 bathroom property in Surrey can be rented for £702,000 per annum.
www.primelocation.com/to-rent/property/surrey/

Edward has got himself a total bargain.

Also the current lie is that the RF members who directly get money have gone down. But the Sovereign grant to the Queen has actually gone up. So now instead of being given money directly, people like Edward still get money but through the Queen.

I haven't rtft but, wasn't it officially deemed to be an unlawful killing? I think there was a documentary made about it which was called that.

Yes, it was a finding of unlawful killing by the "grossly negligent driving of the following vehicles [the paparazzi] and of the Mercedes driver Henri Paul". Princes William and Harry, and Mohammed Al Fayed, all accepted the verdict.

@DePfeffoff

Yes, it was a finding of unlawful killing by the "grossly negligent driving of the following vehicles [the paparazzi] and of the Mercedes driver Henri Paul". Princes William and Harry, and Mohammed Al Fayed, all accepted the verdict.

I thought the French investigation exonerated the 'paps' from any involvement in the accident? I think they did find them guilty of taking photographs of Diana rather than coming to her aid however.

@makkapacca

because everybody i know thinks it was a murder.

I don't know anyone who believes that.

That was the UK inquest finding by a jury, @IcedPurple.

I don't know anyone who believes it. It's ridiculous, instead of just learning from it, just how important seatbelts are, they focus on how she must have been murdered. It was a tragic accident and one that, if she had been wearing a seatbelt, probably would have had a different outcome.

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime No one else could get a palace for £90,000 rent a year. And people renovate where they live all the time.
The RF is supposed to pay the market rate. But they dont.

Bagshot Park - It is believed to have a whopping 120 rooms, and it was, in fact, demolished and rebuilt in 1879. The Grade-II building has majestic interiors, and it is filled with ornate furnishings. Outside is just as spectacular with a strikingly beautiful exterior, 51 acres of land, a private lake and several stables.

Meanwhile a 9 bed, 2 bathroom property in Surrey can be rented for £702,000 per annum.
www.primelocation.com/to-rent/property/surrey/

Edward has got himself a total bargain.[/quote]
So you now admit (to use your own phrase earlier in the thread) that Prince Edward was not "given a palace".
Thank you.

No not given outright, but given a highly subsidised palace.

@Monopolyiscrap

No not given outright, but given a highly subsidised palace.

Not quite the same as bing given fourteen million quid with no strings, is it.

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It's the age old conspiracy versus cock up debate.

Many people are looking for alternative explanations because they find it hard to believe that someone as high profile as Diana could die in something so simple as a car crash. Forgetting that accidents and illnesses do not discriminate on how high or low profile someone is.

So they seek a wider conspiracy explanation on her sad death more in keeping with her high profile rather than a simple explanation of an over the limit chauffeur driving at high speed in central Paris through a tunnel with the passengers not wearing seat belts (except the bodyguard who then survived).

The trouble with this conspiracy is that too many people would have to be in on it; the chances that not one of the people who had to be bought off would have stayed bought for twenty-five years seem vanishingly small to me.

I haven't rtft but, wasn't it officially deemed to be an unlawful killing? I think there was a documentary made about it which was called that

ofcourse but it's the same as the covid vaccines, millions believe it's all some big lie/plot against us...

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime are you talking about money left in his mothers will?
Edward may have inherited more than that from his father. But we will never know as his will was kept secret.

All of which is long way from my original comment that most of us don't need fourteen million quid to not be in the royal family.

I'll be honest; my heart really does not bleed for someone with fourteen million quid to squander on such things as an eleven million quid house which stinks so much all the windows have to be kept shut when the wind blows up from the bird sanctuary.

I think that eleven million would have been better spent on charity, on the whole.