Boris Johnson’s birthday party

[Cheekypeach]

Here we go again…

Yes !!! This is exactly why this 'window dressing of a Met 'enquiry' is being allowed.

If there are 54 letters submitted to 1922 committee, a no confidence vote is triggered

I'm sure I read that they'd already got the required number - does anyone know if there's a way to check this?

@Puzzledandpissedoff some got retracted, i believe. They threaten the MPs who submit. Threaten them with loss of funding in their areas. There are some people who only got their jobs due to Johnson and they have no qualms about threatening backbenchers to keep their jobs.

Only Graham Brady knows and he will not call a no confidence vote until letters are literally clogging up his office. But the man is a walking time bomb, i think the letters will be reached one day in the near future. Its a new crisis every week. He is the walking dead.

Truss wrote that British workers are the worst idlers in the world and who thinks that British toddlers need to be more polite and obedient. That is unintentionally hilarious. Many people would agree with her

@derxa

Truss wrote that British workers are the worst idlers in the world and who thinks that British toddlers need to be more polite and obedient. That is unintentionally hilarious. Many people would agree with her

It doesn't sound like the Tories have been doing much work during the pandemic. Maybe that comment was about them.

You can tell the shit is about to hit the fan when a woman is put forward as potential PM. Just like what they did with TM and Brexit, let her do the hard work and take the shit, then oust her when it looks like things might be looking up and take the credit for it.

Except it backfired on Boris didn't it? 😂

Not enough letters are in yet. I read seven , but that was last week.
People like Shapps and Rees Mogg are lining up to defend him too! They want people to believe it was all fine.

@derxa in the SE shires maybe. Not traditional labour voters who switched to tory as they were disillusioned. I live in the london suburbs and yes there are always people who say that the poor in the UK live in luxury compared to the third world. But this is not the majority view.

They need the red wall voters in order to form a government.

@derxa and yes while the poor in the uk have a higher standard of living than people in afghanistan who are selling their daughters and their kidneys, the view of many tories that the UK poor should be grateful for their lot is not going to sit well with a voter in middlesbrough who has seen poverty rates in his town skyrocket, coupled with lack of local jobs. While many of them might not be in actual poverty and are often homeowners, the lack of prospects in their local area means that they do not share in the country's wealth.

It does feel like all this Tory government have stood for is instability. I have lost respect for all MP's over the last eight years or so, as all I can see is egos, childish behaviour and an avoidance to tackle the real issue of inequality in this country. This instability is being used to do the square root of fuck all about our problems in this country and it's hardly surprising when people in the top jobs move to completely different departments and barely stay in the role for a year before on to the next one. What's more how are half of them even qualified to do their roles? Where is the years of experience required to do this? It is a distraction technique from the lack of progress and shit policies that achieve nothing.

I know people think Keir is full and uncharismatic, but I don't want a celebrity running our government (which really is what Boris is). I want someone competent, stable and trustworthy and that is actually commited to change and making people's lives better.

Stability and competence is going to be what wins the next election at this rate.

@itsgettingweird

But my three factors were and are: that there was evidence that those involved knew or ought to have known that what they were doing was an offence; where not investigating would significantly undermine the legitimacy of the law; and where there was little ambiguity around the absence of any reasonable defence.

Well her own words mean they can't really get out of investigating this then?

I'm working on the assumption that they've now agreed to investigate because No 10 are ok with it.

FFS now the police are investigating so the Sue Gray report may never be published.

[quote onlychildhamster]@pussycatunpickingcrossesagain gove is extremely unappealing. He has less of a chance of defeating Keir as opposed to someone like Rishi. The trick is to pick someone that would lose the tories the most number of constituencies.

This is why many MPs don't want Boris to go. Boris has appeal in the red wall- socially conservative but ultimately believe in big government and the welfare state. Truss wrote that British workers are the worst idlers in the world and who thinks that British toddlers need to be more polite and obedient. Sunak is a David Cameron style Thatcherite. Ultimately neither would deliver levelling up in the way that Boris promised and that is what the red wall constituencies want.[/quote]
The Tories gained 48 seats last time and Labour lost 47.
The Tory majority is 80.
They could actually do without the red seats.

Thank you, onlychildhamster; I hadn't seen that some of them got retracted, but can well believe that any signing them get threatened ... 'twas ever thus in politics

@derxa

Truss wrote that British workers are the worst idlers in the world and who thinks that British toddlers need to be more polite and obedient. That is unintentionally hilarious. Many people would agree with her

It is mainly funny because it was written by someone who has about as much self-awareness as a toddler and thinks Putin might be cowed by emojis.

The current Cabinet are clearly idlers - more so than many British workers.

Just to confirm: DC did work as SPAD for Gove when he was at Education, before the other DC (the porcine, Piggygate one) sacked him. Cummings has plenty of reasons to hate Old Etonians.

FFS now the police are investigating so the Sue Gray report may never be published

Would it really matter though, when we all know her input will be useless beyond offering a "Let's wait for the report" excuse?

Not that the police version will necessarily be any better, when they're funded by the same people ...

The appeal Johnson had in 'red wall' seats is rapidly being eroded. In particular, trying to bully their MPs via a combination of smaller majorities and greater need for state investment is, shall we say, not an approach calculated to endear his government.

Which of the cabinet rats will be the first to leave the sinking ship I wonder? I reckon Sunak. He is probably the only one who could be successful without Johnson's influence. The rest like Shapps/Patel etc wont last two minutes outside the Johnson bubble.

They could actually do without the red seats

That’s odd because neither Cameron nor May could garner enough seats without the support of other parties - and that was without losing seats that had been blue for ever.

It's theoretically true but not sure it'll work in practical terms. Some of this nonsense has gone down quite badly in the shires.

@CorrBlimeyGG

Waiting for M&S to rename their Party Food section to Office Food.

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@Puzzledandpissedoff www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/01/20/christian-wakeford-has-saved-boris-seven-no-confidence-letters/

They could actually do without the red seats

I live in a tory seat that is in danger of being lost. This is thatcher's old constituency. Its the same all over the south. Also home working and suburbanization has meant a lot of left leaning younger voters have settled in tory safe seats in the commuter belt. It is why St Albans went Lib Dem- the Islington effect as it is a popular second stepper destination for former londoners.

I can't read most of that because of the paywall, onlychildhamster, but had to smile at the MPs being worried about booting Boris out of number 10

Maybe they're just worried they'll be next ... ?

@JustJam4Tea

FFS now the police are investigating so the Sue Gray report may never be published.

Yep.

The danger now as I perceive it is that if the Met investigation becomes prolonged, for whatever reason, thee is a danger that Grey report gets kicked into the longish grass and the politicians have an excuse for being very minimalistic in their comments…..

The Sue Gray report will probably be ' lost '
I wouldn't put anything past Boris Corleone
He still has support from people.