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Boris Johnson’s birthday party

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Cheekypeach · 24/01/2022 18:34

Here we go again…

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TheHateIsNotGood · 24/01/2022 23:27

Weren't it Civil Servants that organized the 'illegal gatherings' and not the politicians?

And who better to investigate any maldoings by civil servants....than a top-level Civil Servant.

I must be really, really stupid because no one else seems to have noticed.

LexMitior · 24/01/2022 23:29

Come now, you must have realised that there's a civil servant who will be in post a lot longer than Boris Johnson will be - and its not exactly as if the Conservative Party are particularly decent to the Civil Service is it?

Blossomtoes · 24/01/2022 23:30

I’d really respect a Tory voter who admitted what a bunch of charlatans is sitting on the front bench, how bloody dire this is for their party and the country and suggested a sensible grown up who could clean this mess up. Sadly I think the wait will be lengthy.

Clavinova · 24/01/2022 23:30

Apart from Italy and Belgium all poorer European countries

And Greece, Spain, France and Portugal are not that far behind us. The USA have done worse under Joe Biden than Trump.

LexMitior · 24/01/2022 23:34

@Blossomtoes

I’d really respect a Tory voter who admitted what a bunch of charlatans is sitting on the front bench, how bloody dire this is for their party and the country and suggested a sensible grown up who could clean this mess up. Sadly I think the wait will be lengthy.
They know, you know. They just bet the house on this fool and the parliamentary party is now a collection of loons. They literally have no idea who will lead instead of him- its his mess from top to bottom
Jetstream · 24/01/2022 23:35

Also one of Theresa May’s cabinet has just bought a house here in county Cork. She drove down from Shannon airport and paid in cash.Apparently she told someone that Brexit is a disaster etc.
We have a small inkling who she is but not 100%.

WorstXmasEver · 24/01/2022 23:35

Think I'll wait for the results of the actual enquiry rather than just media reports.

Police must of known also but everyone who went to the party should be named publicly IMO.

22itsallnew · 24/01/2022 23:39

@Clavinova only 22% of those polled on 17/01/22 thought 'Boris was doing well' yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating

Trilley · 24/01/2022 23:40

@MarshaBradyo

The letter from little 7 year old Josephine is a clincher

That is very sweet and sad

At this moment Boris's supporters are desperately trying to dig up some dirt on Josephine and her unfortunate family. That's their standard tactic.
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Trilley · 24/01/2022 23:47

@Clavinova

Clavinova Do you think it is appropriate for the Prime Minister to be having birthday cake with friends whilst telling children that they cannot do the same

They could meet up with five friends for a birthday party outside I believe - including private gardens from 1 June 2020. Zoos and safari parks could open from 15 June 2020...

If Boris Johnson ate birthday cake for less than 10 minutes at work - I'm not going to condemn him for that.

The trouble is he ate birthday cake and party food with 30 friends including his decorator and his wife. That's not "at work". And what evidence do we actually have that he was only there for 10 minutes?

At this time people were being told not to go into the office unless they had to. People were setting up protocols in offices for social distancing, full hygiene precautions, one way systems, prohibitions on meetings etc etc because Boris Johnson told them to. And, as pointed out, little girls were going without birthday parties because Boris Johnson told them to.

In this circumstances do you really think that Boris Johnson having a nice birthday do in the office with 30 people is OK?

ConstanceL · 24/01/2022 23:47

@TheHateIsNotGood

Weren't it Civil Servants that organized the 'illegal gatherings' and not the politicians?

And who better to investigate any maldoings by civil servants....than a top-level Civil Servant.

I must be really, really stupid because no one else seems to have noticed.

How comes Teresa May's number 10 wasn't known for constant partying if it's all the civil servants' fault? Yes I know it wasn't lockdown when she was PM, but surely a civil service led party culture would have been known before now. Make no mistake, Johnson sets the tone of whatever goes on at number 10 - do you really think a civil servant would have the audacity to arrange multiple parties while the poor hapless PM just looked on in horror? Are you really swallowing the demonisation of the civil service that the government are doing to deflect from what really went on?
BreadInCaptivity · 24/01/2022 23:48

@Clavinova

22itsallnew The polls bear that out too

Your link still shows that 46% of Conservative voters thought Boris Johnson was doing well (in that particular survey 17- 01-22) - during an obviously bad week. And, if I remember correctly - 62% of 'Grassroots Conservatives' wanted Boris Johnson to stay on as PM - survey quoted on Newsnight about a week ago.

Irrelevant.

The wolves are circling and you know it as well as Boris does.

The Tories are pragmatists, who unlike Labour refuse to hold fast to ideology or leadership if doing so is perceived to weaken their position.

I'll bet good money Boris won't be fighting the next GE as PM and frankly I wish Labour would start being a damn site more pragmatic, because whilst they are polling better now that won't hold when the Tories re-invent themselves yet again under new leadership and Labour are still locked into their profligate middle class ideological purity spirals and utterly out of touch with many former voters.

Trilley · 24/01/2022 23:50

@Clavinova

Carrie and the interior designer

I assume that the interior designer was working in the building that day and I heard Keir Starmer say last week that he had no objection to spouses/partners being in the workplace...

The person working on the design of the flat in no. 11 won't have been in the offices of no. 10.

Keir Starmer wasn't talking about spouses organising social events in the office and inviting along hangers-on, was he?

GrandmasCat · 24/01/2022 23:51

Obviously, it is impossible to be oblivious to this level of corruption unless you really really want to, but putting aside the covid rules, a what time do these feckers work?

Actually.. do they do any work at all? It seems all their work is focused on covering each other’s backs and shift the blame away from the party.

LexMitior · 24/01/2022 23:52

If I were Sue Gray I would not be rushing my report any time soon - the longer this goes on, the more evidence comes, and the more the PM is damaged. That's plainly his own fault since he appears to have had a party every other day, but really, if your job was to write a factual report which was authoritative and would be seized on by Conservative politicians who simultaneously bash the Civil Service for points each day what would you do? Would you rush it to please a PM who would then start sacking your colleagues as came out in "Operation Big Dog" Really?

Johnson's closest advisers are about 25 and know nothing. They have all the guile of a wet cake.

Trilley · 25/01/2022 00:00

@JanuaryBluehoo

22 don't need to at me

Google whose done far far worse. History's littered with actual abuses of power but start with Tony Blair.

He's had a party.
Don't need to spell out why it's bad but in schemes of things it doesn't compare to weak leadership when a dangerous war is brewing

He didn't have "a" party. He had a number of parties and allowed what appear to be regular parties to happen at no. 10 at a time when he was telling everyone else not to.

And, of course, that's only the tip of the iceberg. Look at the PPE failures, the failures to attend Cobra meetings at the start of covid, the horrendous failure to protect care homes, all those lucrative contracts going to his mates, the Owen Paterson scandal, the Nusrat Khan episode, the £350K for the NHS lie, the fuel crisis, all those lorries queuing for Dover, the entire Brexit fuck-up .... to say nothing of those brilliant videos showing how often he's lied to Pariament. The man is a putrid, stinking pile of lies, laziness, incompetence and outright corruption.

youvegottenminuteslynn · 25/01/2022 00:05

@draramallama

'Party of the sensible' Grin

Party of the immoral, maybe.

The Official Party of Parties it would seem...
Trilley · 25/01/2022 00:06

@Clavinova

Apart from Italy and Belgium all poorer European countries

And Greece, Spain, France and Portugal are not that far behind us. The USA have done worse under Joe Biden than Trump.

As Trump wasn't dealing with Omicron, that's a useless comparison.
ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 25/01/2022 00:15

@Clavinova

Clavinova Do you think it is appropriate for the Prime Minister to be having birthday cake with friends whilst telling children that they cannot do the same

They could meet up with five friends for a birthday party outside I believe - including private gardens from 1 June 2020. Zoos and safari parks could open from 15 June 2020...

If Boris Johnson ate birthday cake for less than 10 minutes at work - I'm not going to condemn him for that.

FIVE friends. Not 30. I am certainly going to condemn him. Neither are you by the looks of it, Carrie!
ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 25/01/2022 00:18

@Blossomtoes

I’d really respect a Tory voter who admitted what a bunch of charlatans is sitting on the front bench, how bloody dire this is for their party and the country and suggested a sensible grown up who could clean this mess up. Sadly I think the wait will be lengthy.
I'm a conservative voter and I think they are a shower of charlatan s**t. I can't think of anyone to put in there, though. I don't want Labour, I don't want LibDems, not that they have a chance anyway, so what is the alternative? Christ knows.
hayley037 · 25/01/2022 00:25

These are the two questions you need to ask when you hear the excuses:

twitter.com/adamwagner1/status/1485730597217738752?s=21

Pondervision · 25/01/2022 00:33

Honestly don't care, people break laws all the time eveb if its going over the speed limit by 1mph your breaking a law.Honestly don't care, people break laws all the time eveb if its going over the speed limit by 1mph your breaking a law.

Yeah, but you now what? If ever I did do such a thing and I got caught, what I'd say is: "fair dues", accept the fine and points on my licence and pay up.

What I wouldn't do is lie about it, refuse to pay and tell the judge "yeah but ignore that, its more important that I've been helping out at the vaccine centre, so can everyone please drop it and move on?"

Blossomtoes · 25/01/2022 00:36

Thanks @ImJustMadAboutSaffron, hats off to you. Great name, by the way, do they call you mellow yellow? 😉

Lavanderrose · 25/01/2022 00:40

How’s he going to waffle himself out of this one. He has to go now.