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Boris Johnson’s birthday party

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Cheekypeach · 24/01/2022 18:34

Here we go again…

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DueyCheatemAndHow · 24/01/2022 22:40

The first time in my life I didn't vote conservative was when we Johnson was leader.

I cannot fathom how anybody - totally regardless of party politics - is even trying to defend this. Its just utterly disgraceful. Surely, surely he needs to go now.

Iggly · 24/01/2022 22:41

I think Boris Johnson is setting a horrendous example to our children. How can such a person deserve the role of Prime Minister?

How can people defend him? Literally what the actual fuck?

There will be someone better out there, we just don’t know who yet.

Keeping him in post has destroyed our country. It really has. He’s not even following the science anymore and people are lapping it up.

In a few years time, we will reap what this wanker has sown.

JanuaryBluehoo · 24/01/2022 22:42

No one would have kept me from elderly loved one's during covid if they were at home.
Many people did what they wanted and bent the rules. That was their risk to take.

I would have made my own risk assessment and gone from there.
Boris apparently took covid lightly then ended up close to deaths door with a pregnant wife who also got it
His mums died and then his New born had it.

He's had his dose of trouble.

Iggly · 24/01/2022 22:44

@JanuaryBluehoo

No one would have kept me from elderly loved one's during covid if they were at home. Many people did what they wanted and bent the rules. That was their risk to take.

I would have made my own risk assessment and gone from there.
Boris apparently took covid lightly then ended up close to deaths door with a pregnant wife who also got it
His mums died and then his New born had it.

He's had his dose of trouble.

Most people stuck to the rules. Because it was a pandemic (still is!). I certainly stayed away from elderly family as didn’t want to risk it.
GatoradeMeBitch · 24/01/2022 22:47

Get real - the conservatives will always be the party of the sensible.

Party being the operative word. Is there anything at all that could convince you he's a complete liability or will you worship those pampered upper class follicles for as long as you can?

22itsallnew · 24/01/2022 22:47

@JanuaryBluehoo I'm more worried we Will loose a leader when we are at another crisis point thanks to Putin!

Oh don't worry Johnson is still on the loose

I am past caring. Others have done far worse. I'd rather keep him at this point and replace him further down the year

Hardly a striking endorsement is it? Who in Government has done worse than the PM? What's your thinking on keeping him now and replacing later? Have you seen his track record on foreign diplomacy www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-nazanin-zaghariratcliffe-apology-iran-comments-teach-journalism-prison-sentence-a8052611.html
Nazarin remains in prison.

TheHateIsNotGood · 24/01/2022 22:48

Does anyone else do what I do for amusement - read the OP and page1 of posts then go to the Last page of posts to see how digressed or narrow the thread is?

As this thread is 13 pages (so far) of narrow, thought I'd take this opportunity to mention it, before everything just turns into a bland, beige, same old, same old fug, forever and beyond....

22itsallnew · 24/01/2022 22:48

Apologies for typo Nazanin

PermanentTemporary · 24/01/2022 22:49

Quite possibly if he had taken the rules seriously he wouldn't have caught Covid. I don't think he fully recovered for some months, most people are knocked sideways by a spell in ICU. To think I felt sorry for him.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 24/01/2022 22:51

[quote Clavinova]The refurbishments were finished in April.

Work began in April 2020 - invoices still being paid in October 2020 according to this article;

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boris-johnson-flat-refurb-tories_uk_60b0fd16e4b0f2a82ee9216e[/quote]
Work began in July 2019 and finished in April 2020. Johnson then spent the next year trying to get someone else to pay for it.

hulahooper2 · 24/01/2022 22:51

He has no respect for anyone , thinks he can do what he likes and get away with it. I don’t understand how he is still in a job , and anyone who tries to defend him need to take a long hard look at themselves,,, they expect it will lead to promotion 🥴

JanuaryBluehoo · 24/01/2022 22:53

22 don't need to at me

Google whose done far far worse. History's littered with actual abuses of power but start with Tony Blair.

He's had a party.
Don't need to spell out why it's bad but in schemes of things it doesn't compare to weak leadership when a dangerous war is brewing

Hospedia · 24/01/2022 22:54

Another tweet that has aged badly

Boris Johnson’s birthday party
Iggly · 24/01/2022 22:54

@JanuaryBluehoo

22 don't need to at me

Google whose done far far worse. History's littered with actual abuses of power but start with Tony Blair.

He's had a party.
Don't need to spell out why it's bad but in schemes of things it doesn't compare to weak leadership when a dangerous war is brewing

The last person I want as prime minister when there’s a war is Boris Johnson.

Jesus wept.

Clavinova · 24/01/2022 22:54

PastMyBestBeforeDate
Nobody has any faith in the clowns in government. Nobody.

Most people I speak to do - Conservative voters that is.

22itsallnew · 24/01/2022 22:54

@TheHateIsNotGood narrow as in consistent posts that Johnson has reached a new low again?

Blossomtoes · 24/01/2022 22:55

Others have done far worse

Have they? Which politician has done worse and what have they done?

hayley037 · 24/01/2022 22:59

@Iggly

I think Boris Johnson is setting a horrendous example to our children. How can such a person deserve the role of Prime Minister?

How can people defend him? Literally what the actual fuck?

There will be someone better out there, we just don’t know who yet.

Keeping him in post has destroyed our country. It really has. He’s not even following the science anymore and people are lapping it up.

In a few years time, we will reap what this wanker has sown.

Normalising authoritarianism is what they have done. It is not accidental, or a temporary blip that will return to normal democracy.

The Tories have become the party of anti-democracy and I can't see it being reversed any time soon. This hasn't happened over night - it's been at least 6-7 years in the making at this stage - so there is no way the Tories can revert to what they were meant to stand for previously for a very long time, if at all.

Post Brexshit we've become a tinpot country on the world stage with many of our European neighbours looking on with a mixture of sadness, incredulity and out and out laughter, and the longer this goes on the worse it will get.

Look to the US for the direction of travel. Which is not a pretty sight. And it's a one-way ticket; once the party starts to radicalise and embrace authoritarianism, there's no reverse gear.

As for Johnson, he could well get to the point of being so far gone as living in a totally alternative universe - a la Trump - if he keeps it up, because the brain remodels itself around the cognitive paths we choose over long periods of time and becomes habitually deterministic if left unchecked. In his mind he has done nothing wrong because that's what Eton educated narcissists think, as far as he's concerned he is above the law and this is all just a witch-hunt.

Mayorquimby2 · 24/01/2022 22:59

"He's had his dose of trouble."

Aka the consequences of his own actions

22itsallnew · 24/01/2022 23:00

@Clavinova

PastMyBestBeforeDate Nobody has any faith in the clowns in government. Nobody.

Most people I speak to do - Conservative voters that is.

Really, as most I speak to (& that covers family and colleagues) have all had enough of Johnson 'taking the piss'

The polls bear that out too:
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating

AlecTrevelyan006 · 24/01/2022 23:01

@JanuaryBluehoo

22 don't need to at me

Google whose done far far worse. History's littered with actual abuses of power but start with Tony Blair.

He's had a party.
Don't need to spell out why it's bad but in schemes of things it doesn't compare to weak leadership when a dangerous war is brewing

None of these "parties" (14 now I think) are enough on their own. On their own, each one is a minor transgression, or can be forgiven by an apology. But its a death by 1000 cuts. All the "minor transgressions " add up to equal someone who (a) clearly disregarded the rules and (b) clearly misled parliament about his knowledge of any parties

He's toast (by the court of public opinion, if he somehow manages to survive Sue Gray / SKS

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 24/01/2022 23:01

You'll have a small social circle then clav.

Dreamstate · 24/01/2022 23:03

@Blossomtoes

Others have done far worse

Have they? Which politician has done worse and what have they done?

I'd say Tony Blair bare facing lying about wmd to invade a country that cost far more lifes and left a country in absolute shocking state from interfering far far worse than meeting people indoors during lockdown.

Honestly don't care, people break laws all the time eveb if its going over the speed limit by 1mph your breaking a law. Droppong litter on the floor thats a law broken.

So for me I just can't so angry over the parties or what not. I get far more angry about what Tony Blair did.

Blossomtoes · 24/01/2022 23:04

I think we’re up to 19 now @AlecTrevelyan006.

22itsallnew · 24/01/2022 23:06

JanuaryBluehoo Don't need to spell out why it's bad but in schemes of things it doesn't compare to weak leadership when a dangerous war is brewing

Do you not think Johnson is a weak leader now? His own party is in factions, he's facing revolt from his back benchers.He was told to go by David Davis at PMQs last week! None of the opposition MPs have any professional respect for him (and that's not been the case with previous PMs). He's lost the public's confidence.

Why would a new leader = weak leadership?

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