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Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

764 replies

youdialwetile · 22/01/2022 03:16

DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

OP posts:
butterpuffed · 22/01/2022 08:00

When you count , one two three, does it sound like wun two three ?😂😂

Yes, of course

crazyjinglist · 22/01/2022 08:02

OMG. It is absolutely nuts on these kinds of threads when people indignantly insist that certain pronunciations are 'just plain wrong' when they are simply regional.

OP - did I gather that you're Scottish but living in the US? In which case teachers shouldn't be trying to eradicate your child's accent by telling them it's 'wrong'. 'Shone' is definitely pronounced 'shown' in some American accents, but that doesn't mean it should be by everyone!

Fwiw I live in NW England now, but lived almost all my life in the SE (London, Home Counties). For me, shone rhymes with gone. One us pronounced 'wun'.

But seriously- what is with all you people saying regional accents are 'wrong'?! Or that you've never heard people pronounce things that way? Have you never stepped outside your region or switched on the tv or the radio?!

Enb76 · 22/01/2022 08:02

Won and one rhyme otherwise this would not work:

1 1 was a racehorse
2 2 was 1 2
2 2 1 1 race and
1 1 1 1 2

This is a similar reason to why I know forehead rhymes with horrid.

IncompleteSenten · 22/01/2022 08:03

One, gone, non, bon, shone.

Inertia · 22/01/2022 08:03

Shone rhymes with on (shon ) when used as the past tense of shine .

However, where we live it’s also a surname and in that case it’s pronounced with the long o sound (like shown).

BertieBotts · 22/01/2022 08:04

Won also rhymes with gone Confused Why would it be said like wun?

Hobbesmanc · 22/01/2022 08:04

Do people really say BBC wun?

Shone. Gone. One. Scone
Done shun fun won
Shawn born dawn quorn
Cone moan phone

HeronLanyon · 22/01/2022 08:04

In my accent (uk - south - old RP) shone rhymes with the way I say
Wan
Gone (approx)
Bon (bon bon bon appétit wtc)
Non
Etc

So neither of your options.

IncompleteSenten · 22/01/2022 08:04

Won is wun where I'm from.

UtopiaMist · 22/01/2022 08:06

With gone, but I have noticed that in American podcasts they pronounce shone to with zone.

HeronLanyon · 22/01/2022 08:07

One is wun for me too. I think I have a tiny shade of won in it.
I’ve been saying it out loud with my coffee and now feel I have had a successful full rewarding day.

ThreeLocusts · 22/01/2022 08:08

Fascinating. I'm not a native speaker but have lived in a variety of Anglophone countries for over 20 years. I always thought it rhymed with zone. Not sure why though.

BertieBotts · 22/01/2022 08:08

OMG. It is absolutely nuts on these kinds of threads when people indignantly insist that certain pronunciations are 'just plain wrong' when they are simply regional.

You don't need to take it so seriously :o We do know that. It's just hyperbole for comedic effect (but it does genuinely feel like "how in the hell could you pronounce it like that??!!)

I do find it funny though how we all clearly hear a multitude of pronunciations every day and mentally transliterate it to the one that we personally use.

If you have a toddler in the house it's even funnier if you stop and think about it. You get so used to their letter/sound substitutions that their speech is completely normal to you even though someone outside the family finds it incomprehensible.

Hugasauras · 22/01/2022 08:08

Once more for those at the back:

Different accents pronounce things differently. This is okay. It is normal. It is allowed. It has been the case for our entire history. There's no need to get personally affronted or baffled by it. As a Scot married to an Englishman, we have lots of differences in how we pronounce things. Neither is right or wrong.

And yes I'm Scottish and where I'm from one would never rhyme with gone, it would sound extremely odd in my accent to say it like that, like I was putting on a comedy voice. That doesn't mean it's wrong; it's just not how it's pronounced where I am. No need for Confused faces. Try listening to people from other places and walks of life; it's illuminating Grin

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/01/2022 08:10

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone
Agreed.

Shone/gone
Dawn/brawn
Zone/tone

All different.

crazyjinglist · 22/01/2022 08:11

Do people really say BBC wun?

Of course. Standard RP and SE English pronunciation. And US. Almost everyone I met or knew before I moved north said 'wun'. And presumably the BBC itself always called it BBC Wun until it started employing more presenters with regional accents!

CiderJolly · 22/01/2022 08:11

Just put it into one of those pronunciation web sites maybe?

Piggywaspushed · 22/01/2022 08:11

Dual national US here and Scottish upbringing. We used to make fun of my mum because she didn't think shone was even a word. Never heard an American pronounce it in any way. They tend to say 'shined'.

lisaandalan · 22/01/2022 08:12

Neither.

Hugasauras · 22/01/2022 08:12

I suspect a lot of people are just tired of these threads where there's so much ignorance and 'comedy' outrage about entirely normal things about our own country.

Tee20x · 22/01/2022 08:14

Neither

LizBennet · 22/01/2022 08:14

For me, ONE is pronounced the same as in wander. (WONN)
WON is the same as wonder. (WUNN).

bintang · 22/01/2022 08:15

My far was from a very well to do background, pronounced room as rum, railway as ralw'y, forehead as forred, used the terms 'wireless' in the 21st century, etc. He said one to rhyme with gone.

Scone rhymes with shone Grin

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 22/01/2022 08:16

@mathanxiety

Shone rhymes with gone and scone
Now you've done it. Grin

Scone is pronounced scon, to rhyme with shone and gone, yes.

Many very wrong people pronounce it to rhyme with zone. More to be pitied than criticised, I feel.

bintang · 22/01/2022 08:16

My far would be my father, naturally.