Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

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DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

@Phrowzunn

😂 I can’t cope with people thinking ‘horn’ and ‘corn’ rhyme with ‘dawn’..?! Also, in what universe does ‘one’ rhyme with ‘gone’?!

In my universe! At dawn I ate corn And blew my horn At a fawn That had just been born. I counted to one And then it had gone

Ow having done a pronunciation test with my husband for ‘one’ it is quite subtle but the difference is definitely there. Just quite shocked I’ve never noticed before.

Me- wun to rhyme with bun
Him- won but the ‘on’ isn’t as strong as the on in gone which does sound crisper.

@pinkstripeycat

Love the posters who are saying one and gone rhyme. They must be from the north. Love a northern accent

In the midlands one is pronounced wun so gone and one dont rhyme for us. We have a silly accent and I hate it.

Errr Midlander born and bred here.

‘One’ deffo rhymes with ‘gone’!

Chesney Hawkes doesn't sing 'the "wun" and only' , he clearly sings the 'the "wan" and only" 😁 My cousins in the Southwest say wun though, it's a regional thing.
Alexa says wan not won for one too.

Hmmmm OK I think maybe it might be a feature of unstressed syllables actually.

If I sit here and say one one one to myself, it's won won won - clear o sound.

But if I start counting quickly and listen to that sound back, the one is not stressed, and the vowel sound used in it is more of a schwa type vowel which would be more usually phonetically written as u.

But that doesn't mean that one is pronounced wun, any more than it means twenty is pronounced twenny, even though I can clearly hear myself saying twenny-two, twenny-three, twenny-four. You know that the second t is not silent, even though it generally gets missed off pronunciation.

@thisgardenlife

This is getting ridiculous.

In British English, shone, as in the sun shone, is pronounced shon, ie 'on', but with sh in front. It doesn't rhyme with any of the examples, and those who think it sounds the same as 'one' are just plain wrong.

'One' sounds the same as 'won' (he won a prize), nothing like shone. If it did it would be like 'wan', as in pale and wan.

Shown, on the other hand, as in 'I was shown two examples', sounds like 'own' (oan) just with sh in front - shown.

One and gone do not rhyme. Won sounds like wun. Gone sounds like 'on' but with a hard g in front, hence 'gone'.

That should clear this madness up.

Agh this has been illuminating

One, gone, rhyme for me,
I’ve heard movie actors say oneself, and that would rhyme at the beginning, how I would pronounce one as in gone )

One sounding like wun, is very strange 😂😂
How strange our regional dialects are

When you count , one two three, does it sound like wun two three ?😂😂

Neither.
Shone as in "The sun shone" rhymes with Gone.

@Lightstoobright

What? As in 'the sun shone'? In my part of the country it rhymes with one/gone

One rhymes with sun.

Shone rhymes with gone.

@Cheeko69

Traditional dictionaries which, out of necessity, obviously concentrate on semantic items, use standard southern British phonetics.

Thankfully, it's no longer as simple as that in the field of linguistics, where prescriptivism gives way to descriptivism.

In socio-historical linguistics, it can be seen that standard forms were considered the only correct forms and were limited pretty much to the elite ruling classes of London and the Home Counties. If you're old enough (like me) you'll remember how BBC TV presenters only had that accent in the early years.

@pinkstinks

m.youtube.com/watch?v=rvDJwWtSvsM

Wun

No, they’re singing it to rhyme with on! To my ears!

Omg do we hear them differently as well

People need to stop using ‘won’ to describe the sound of pronouncing ‘one’ like ‘switch ‘on’’ but with a w at the start. ‘Won’ as in ‘she won the prize’ is ‘wun’! Unless you’re doing it wrong.

For me and pretty much anyone else I hear (and I’m in Edinburgh with a wide mix of accents) ‘she won one prize’ sounds like it has two words the same in the middle. Sometimes a little hint towards an ‘o’ like in ‘pot’ after the ‘w’ from my Liverpool/Shropshire DH (which I correct every time, obviously) but still not like ‘gone’. I had no idea people said it like that. Actually no, I don’t believe it.

She won one bun from The Sun, what fun.

@ThePants999

"one" rhymes with "gun", not "gone".

In your accent.

@Catlover77

One and gone absolutely rhyme. Only speaking RP would one sound like wun

In that case, everyone from my hometown would have RP accents . I can assure you they do not!

One rhymes with gun
Gone rhymes with shone

(Midlands)

And shone rhymes with gone! Do Americans say it like ‘shown’? I’ve never noticed that. I was too distracted by people ‘doing their doody’.

Hahah now when Elliot says one two three in the best clip of all Time…
Ancient neanderthal voice

m.youtube.com/watch?v=o589CAu73UM

@BertieBotts

Hmmmm OK I think maybe it might be a feature of unstressed syllables actually.

If I sit here and say one one one to myself, it's won won won - clear o sound.

But if I start counting quickly and listen to that sound back, the one is not stressed, and the vowel sound used in it is more of a schwa type vowel which would be more usually phonetically written as u.

But that doesn't mean that one is pronounced wun, any more than it means twenty is pronounced twenny, even though I can clearly hear myself saying twenny-two, twenny-three, twenny-four. You know that the second t is not silent, even though it generally gets missed off pronunciation.

That's weak forms in connected speech.

If you say "And????" (as in "your point is???) you'll naturally give that "a" it's normal, English /a/ sound.

If you say "fish and chips" you'll probably use the weak form (as you say, giving the "a" a "schwa")

@MattDillonsEyebrows

This thread is twisting my melons!! 🤦‍♀️

‘One’ is rhymed with ‘gone’ in the East Midlands! But it does clear up why some of my Children’s books rhyme ‘one’ with ‘won’, I thought it was just an assonance!

Same in W. Mids. I was trying to get won and one to rhyme.

I could say won to rhyme with one, but one to rhyme with won just sounds odd to my ears!

I'm irish so
One = Wun and doesn't rhyme with gone.

Dawn definitely doesn't rhyme with corn or horn here either.
It's funny cause the kids sometimes point it out in story book.

Idea and clear came up in a rhyming story and I was trying to explain to them that accents are different. They were like haha. But then I read it out in an English/American/Australian/my accents so they could see abd they loved that!!

Actually listening to The One Show theme again I think they’re singing:

“Wonnnnnn! Wunnnnn! Wannnnn! Aaaaah, Waaaaahhhhn!”

Inclusive!

I'm from the East Midlands. "Shone" rhymes with "gone" and "one". Dawn rhymes with horn/corn. Zone rhymes with own.

Oh and.....the actual question from OP
To me Shone rhymes with Gone/Con/Don

I'm on childcare duty today. My DGDs favourite TV programme is Numberblocks. I'll be back!

I do wonder if the 'one' thing is partly due to selective hearing. And that it's actually most often pronounced somewhere in the middle, so we hear what we expect to hear, based on our education and regional accent.
We need a linguistics expert on that.

I think people might here differently. To me this (dictionary) sounds like wu-on

dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/one

So not like pun (which is puh-uh-n).

Then again my interpretation of what "wu", "on", "puh", "uh" and "n" might be different.

Hear. Not flipping here.

@Monty27

Depends on the accents I guess. Even Shakespearean poetry doesn't always rhyme. It's not what poetry's about anyway. IMHO.

It possibly did in the original pronunciation. If you like that sort of thing search Shakespeare in OP or watch