Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

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DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

I have name changed for this because I am completely outing myself here.

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Love it that so many people forget that regional accents can be so different from theirs. Sometimes think that teaches get so entrenched in phonics teaching they forget that English is not regular and they just look at the spelling of words. We have had several homework sheets that have been incorrect for a Scottish accent but the teacher maybe just hadn't had time to read the words out loud in her Scottish accent. Also, people don't seem to understand the concept of rhyming, it's not just the last letter. Pin and gun don't rhyme because they end in n.

@LizBennet many people nowadays seem to mix wonder and wander, it must be due to differing pronunciations.

I have discussed the frequent mix up between 'affect' and 'effect' with DH before now. He often confused the two (as do half the country!) but we realised that in his accent they sound v similar (he's Midlands) whereas I've never struggles with it...but in my accent they don't sound at all the same.

Different accents pronounce things differently. This is okay. It is normal. It is allowed. It has been the case for our entire history. There's no need to get personally affronted or baffled by it we can still be surprised by it when we realise certain words are pronounced differently.

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Neither. Shone rhymes with on.

Maybe different in America but if it were here I would say teacher is wrong. It rhymes with gone, con, don . Have they got shone and shown mixed up?

This has reminded me of the evening me and my now DH (at the time we were just friends) spent ages in our local trying to work out what a newcomer to the pub was saying, he had a very strong Glaswegian accent, we're in the East Midlands of England and he was repeatedly saying "Advert!" while we looked puzzled and said "Aardvark?" back at him 😁 We apparently pronounce 'drawers' incorrectly as well. It sounds like 'draws' when we say it which is why we end up with the 'Chester Draws' adverts on FB Marketplace.

It'd be a boring old world if we were all the same though.

Not RTWT but it's pronounced Shon.

@Bussinbussin

Some of the replies are really confusing me!

One and gone don't rhyme for me either. One rhymes with gun and gone rhymes with con. (And shone rhymes with gone/con.)

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The OP said she was Scottish, in Scotland Dawn and Don are pronounced the same, whereas in England Dawn has a longer vowel sound. So dawn and shone rhyme in Scotland.

As far as RP goes there is a middle class Scottish accent that is easily recognised by anyone Scottish as the Scottish equivalent to RP. The 'Glasgow University accent' is a good example, it doesn't use a lot of dialect.

@SleepingStandingUp

Neither.

Dawn, Horn, Lawn
Zone, Phone, Moan
Shone, Gone, One,

Agree except shone rhymes with gone but not one.

One rhymes with fun.

Neither, it rhymes with gone.

Shawn is a male name (also spelt Sean).

Shone as in zone sounds like shown, a past tense of 'to show'.

I've never heard shone pronounced either of those ways in the UK and struggle to imagine it, even in other English-speaking countries' accents - which suggests I'm going to learn something here!

@Bahhhhhumbug I grew up in the east end and my family gatherings put eastenders to shame, I have never heard anyone pronounce gone as Goan, if you've heard gaaahn it's going not gone , I'm gaaahn daaahn taaaahn you wan anyfink? I'm going down town do you want anything?

Rhymes with scone!

Shone as is gone.

Sorry I just don't understand how an adult cannot know this unless English is their second language or something!

[quote bintang]@LizBennet many people nowadays seem to mix wonder and wander, it must be due to differing pronunciations.

I have discussed the frequent mix up between 'affect' and 'effect' with DH before now. He often confused the two (as do half the country!) but we realised that in his accent they sound v similar (he's Midlands) whereas I've never struggles with it...but in my accent they don't sound at all the same.[/quote]
I do too tbh, I'd say Effect and Affect if I was pronouncing the words on their own, but in a sentence both would sound more like 'uhfect'.

@Bussinbussin

Some of the replies are really confusing me!

One and gone don't rhyme for me either. One rhymes with gun and gone rhymes with con. (And shone rhymes with gone/con.)

Sounds like you pronouncing one like won?

Shone rhymes with gone.

I listen to a lot of audio books and American narrators often pronounce it to rhyme with zone. I'm SE England, a bit posh and I rhyme it with gone.

Where I am from (Lancashire) shone rhymes with con, one, gone and to be controversial scone! 😆

@GaryLurcher19

"Does it have a rage of regional accents?"

I like 'Rage' as a collective noun for regional accents.

Brilliant! GaryLurcher wins the internet for today.

@BigSkies22

Rhymes with scone!

Lol. Now we need a wooden spoon emoji!

Claire Foy was on Graham Norton and explained the word she used to get into being the Queen in The Crown was 'one' as she pronounces it to rhyme with gone in her Manchester accent and has to change to 'won' to be the Queen. So just different regional variations.

@Guacamole001

Shone as is gone.

Sorry I just don't understand how an adult cannot know this unless English is their second language or something!

I don't know how an adult doesn't realise many words are pronounced differently to how they pronounce it.