Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

[youdialwetile]

DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

How does one rhyme with con? Are you just saying “on”?

Another for whom one rhymes with wun. I’m sat here muttering to myself trying to work out how it could be said with the same phonetics as one

"These pronunciation threads always fascinate me. Not that things are pronunced differently but that people don't seem to have ever heard a different pronunciation. Do they not watch TV, listen to the radio, audio books or other people?"

Yeah. But they're wrong.

Geamhradh But the vowel sounds are different for me? U versus O?

@LovedayCL

One rhymes with gone for me. I’ve never heard one pronounced as won.

One rhymes with Gun no? Not Gone.

I'm so confused.

Scone is to Cone

Nope. Because then the joke about the fastest cake in the world doesn't work

@Phrowzunn

😂 I can’t cope with people thinking ‘horn’ and ‘corn’ rhyme with ‘dawn’..?! Also, in what universe does ‘one’ rhyme with ‘gone’?!

This one....

I find language and accents fascinating as it's so easy to take your own for granted. I went on holiday with a Canadian friend and an American friend a few years ago. It had been first time we’d all met in person rather than typing online. We had great fun teasing one another about the way we all said things differently in our accents and language use.

Shone rhymes with gone for me. I grew up in west London.

Maybe not for you. It does for me though and countless others 🤷🏼‍♀️

Clearly shone and one don't rhyme for countless others if this thread is anything to go by 🤷🏼‍♀️

Shone rhymes with On (or scone haha don't start that one)

How does one rhyme with con? Are you just saying “on”?

No, because it has a w sound at the beginning Otherwise you'd be saying un. Which is French.

I listen to a Calm sleep story where the narrator say the word ‘“shone” to rhyme with “phone” - it jolts me awake every time!

@RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime

Rylan has a southern English accent, so yes, if you listen to Dan Walker saying BBC One, he says it to rhyme with gone.

You see I was sitting here, mind blown, that anyone who pronounces one "on" doesn't realise that's not typical. They must never have travelled, or put the telly on. It's not BBC On, Chesney Hawkes did not sing "I am the on and only", this is madness.

I live in Scotland and have also lived in SE England and the Midlands, worked in London and with people from all over UK.

Haha I’ve just woken up my husband who has a northern accent. He says ‘won’ to my ‘wun’ and is adamant won and gone rhyme. my mind is blown.

Gone - one and none don't rhyme with gone.

Just watched that One show opening and I can clearly hear an o sound, not a u sound.

Maybe the actual sound to say one is a sort of hybrid between o and u (like a schwa kind of o) and those people who have been corrected on childhood to emphasise the wun-ness hear the u more strongly whereas those of us who have never really thought about it hear the o more strongly.

@Bunnycat101

Geamhradh But the vowel sounds are different for me? U versus O?

Which words?

No-one says on for one they are just describing the end of the pronunciation. They say won.

As a Scot, I love these threads because everyone always seems so baffled that people in the UK might pronounce things differently DD has a couple of rhyming books with rhymes that don't work for me at all due to accent but do for my English DH ('sure and four' is one I can think of).

Instead of falling over yourselves to insist the way you pronounce it is 'correct', maybe just accept that different accents have different pronunciations and that's part of what makes language in this country really rich and interesting.

The 'wun' thing has confused me though as I'm not sure how else you could possibly say it! I've tried but can't work it out; even in various faux English accents Watching with interest!

Love the posters who are saying one and gone rhyme. They must be from the north. Love a northern accent

In the midlands one is pronounced wun so gone and one dont rhyme for us. We have a silly accent and I hate it.

@BertieBotts you might have cleared everything up there.

I was singing to myself the Radio 1 jingle "bee bee see radio on" and chuckling.

@Namechangeforthis88

You see I was sitting here, mind blown, that anyone who pronounces one "on" doesn't realise that's not typical. They must never have travelled, or put the telly on. It's not BBC On, Chesney Hawkes did not sing "I am the on and only", this is madness.

I live in Scotland and have also lived in SE England and the Midlands, worked in London and with people from all over UK.

I don’t think anyone says ‘on’ for ‘one’.

They just rhyme, it still has a ‘w’ sound at the start of the word, so it’s phonetically pronounced ‘w-on’.

@Phrowzunn

😂 I can’t cope with people thinking ‘horn’ and ‘corn’ rhyme with ‘dawn’..?! Also, in what universe does ‘one’ rhyme with ‘gone’?!

This one?

I'm going back to bed this thread is blowing my mind. I had no idea!

These sorts of threads always go on for a long time with people insisting that this word does or doesn’t rhyme with that word or that other posters’ pronunciation is ‘wrong’. If everyone would accept that regional accents exist (and are wonderful- imagine how boring it would be if we all sounded the same!) it would be great. It would also be helpful if people said what sort of accent they have when they post.

I’m in the SE.

Here, ‘one’ does not rhyme with ‘gone’. The vowel in ‘gone’ is short and rounded. In ‘one’, the vowel is also short but more open.

I do like and celebrate regional accents but will admit I’m having a hard time with ‘shone’ rhyming with ‘zone’. I don’t think I like it 😂 I haven’t ever heard it but will be listening closely to Americans from now on.

@BertieBotts

Just watched that One show opening and I can clearly hear an o sound, not a u sound.

Maybe the actual sound to say one is a sort of hybrid between o and u (like a schwa kind of o) and those people who have been corrected on childhood to emphasise the wun-ness hear the u more strongly whereas those of us who have never really thought about it hear the o more strongly.

No the sound of one is exactly as much of a U sound as the word pun or bun. According to dictionaries anyway.