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Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

764 replies

youdialwetile · 22/01/2022 03:16

DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

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aSofaNearYou · 22/01/2022 09:37

Haha @HaveringWavering yes I assume it's one of those things.

Not sure how you add links but this is how I say one.

dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/one

Justkeeppedaling · 22/01/2022 09:38

Since when did shone and gone rhyme with one?
(I'm Welsh, but they don't rhyme in Wiltshire either)

itssquidstella · 22/01/2022 09:38

Shone rhymes with gone.

Dawn rhymes with porn (non-rhotic accent here).

Zone rhymes with bone.

Bortles · 22/01/2022 09:39

Neither. As other have said, it's a short o sound. Dawn is a drawn out one. Like drawn actually.

AngelinaFibres · 22/01/2022 09:40

@Bahhhhhumbug

One and gone do rhyme, don't understand why people saying they don't. They both end in the 'on' sound. I have a relative with a strong cockney accent though and he says 'gone' as 'goan'. Apart from that never heard it said any other way except to rhyme with one
Depends on accent. I would say one as wun rather than won and gone as gon. So they don't rhyme.
Geamhradh · 22/01/2022 09:41

@LizBennet

Oops, sorry! Yes, you're right!

Bloody Dunning-Kruger effect.

Except I haven't spent the entire thread belittling people with different accents to mine, and nor have I demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the English language.
Keepitonthedownlow · 22/01/2022 09:42

It's like scone and eh, scone isn't it?

LizBennet · 22/01/2022 09:43

Except I haven't spent the entire thread belittling people with different accents to mine, and nor have I demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of the English language.

And neither have I, thank the Lord ✌ I can take a joke too 😊

MajorCarolDanvers · 22/01/2022 09:44

Shone rhymes with dawn or gone.

But we all have different accents you will get loads of different answers. .

SisterJude · 22/01/2022 09:45

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MajorCarolDanvers · 22/01/2022 09:46

Fascinated to see one rhyming with shone or on.

I pronounce one the same as won.

HaveringWavering · 22/01/2022 09:46

@Lunificent

I just asked about this on a mainly American forum I go on. They’re all saying it rhymes with cone. I’m really surprised. You learn a new thing every day.
Can you ask if “shown” sounds identical to “shone” for them too?
HaveringWavering · 22/01/2022 09:48

No takers on the question about the way Adele sings “love” as “loave”?

She doesn’t pronounce it like that when she speaks.

AngelinaFibres · 22/01/2022 09:49

@aSofaNearYou

I am from northern England and I am always surprised how different accents are in places that are only a few miles apart

I agree, but as a Southerner living in the North I have found myself at the receiving end of people scoffing and trying to tell me the way they say things IS the way things are said, as if I invented Queen's English and it hasn't been a very well known, dare I say more well known, alternative accent for a long time. Discussions around what to call meals of the day were always the worst.

I've never had any trouble accepting other accents and dialects exist and there isn't a "main one" but it's very irritating when others can't do the same.

It's all part of the 'professional Northerner' thing. If you aren't from the North you are a mardy Southerner. Husband's siblings are masters of this. I like to count in my head how many minutes I will be with them before somebody pops out something I am doing, saying, feeling (cold generally cos their houses are feckin freezing) that makes me a Southerner and therefore inferior.
RustyBear · 22/01/2022 09:49

@aSofaNearYou

I'm baffled by all the people acting like it's ridiculous to say "one" rhymes with "gone". Of course it does!

Obviously there are different accents out there but if you've ever watched TV, surely you are aware that in standard, southern "Queen's English", one rhymes with gone? Have you never heard them say "BBC1"? It doesn't sound anything like "gun".

Watch the first 30 seconds of this. BBC1 definitely rhymes with gun here
LadyEloise1 · 22/01/2022 09:50

Shone rhymes with on, don or con for me.
Dublin, Ireland here

Lindtnotlint · 22/01/2022 09:51

Joining the minds blown club. Not because I am shocked people say “one” differently - though I am a bit surprised at the prevalence of the “won as in con” version. What my mind is truly blown by is the people saying that “won as in con” is the “RP/BBC/most common” version. It definitely isn’t - I have the most RP accent you can imagine and it one is 100 per cent “wun as in sun” so the fact that the accent effect can be so strong it is impacting how people are /hearing/ the word is really fascinating.

Changechangychange · 22/01/2022 09:51

@EmmaGrundyForPM

I'm really confused by all the people who pronounce one to rhyme with gone, as I don't think I've ever heard it pronounce like that. Where are you from?

I'm from East Anglia but have more of a London accent. I would pronounce these to rhyme:

shone gone con
bone phone. tone
Dawn fawn born

One/gone - I was born in Yorkshire but now have a mostly Home Counties accent. One and wan (as in pale) now rhyme for me, whereas when I was a child with a stronger Doncaster accent, I pronounced one more like “wun”.

After we moved, DBro got really confused for a while and went through a phase of pronouncing it “wan”, rhyming with “van”. So “I won wan”, for I won one. Nobody does that Grin

The corn, horn, gone thing - some accents are non-rhotic. And westcountry accents will definitely say “I’ve gorn home”.

HipHopBanzai · 22/01/2022 09:51

For me:

shone rhymes with gone or one
zone rhymes with phone
dawn rhymes with fawn or prawn

shone, zone and dawn all sound completely different in my accent

Enko · 22/01/2022 09:52
and to me that rhymes with gone and one.
WeatherwaxOn · 22/01/2022 09:52

Shone rhymes with gone. Never heard of alternate pronunciations (regional accents excepted(.
Scone, however can rhyme with either gone or cone, depending on how posh you think you are. Wink

ShowOfHands · 22/01/2022 09:54

3mins 50secs

HaveringWavering · 22/01/2022 09:56

Depends on accent. I would say one as wun rather than won and gone as gon. So they don't rhyme

@AngelinaFibres. When you wrote “won” here, you weren’t saying it in your head like it sounds in “he won the race” were you? I think you were saying it in your head like the first part of “wonton”, right?

Otherwise
The race is over and I have won
All the others’ hopes are gone

would rhyme for you. But surely it doesn’t?

guardiansofthegalaxychocs · 22/01/2022 09:56

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone
Yep
RustyBear · 22/01/2022 09:57

@TurkeyRoastvBubbleandSqueek - now you've confused me.

In your very interesting post, first you say "But the word "won" does not rhyme with one, gone, on, or shone"
But then you say "So to reiterate, it is "sh on" just like 
(w)on, on, gon(e)"

Confused