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Does shone rhyme with dawn or zone?

764 replies

youdialwetile · 22/01/2022 03:16

DD has been told she's saying it wrong - may be both as used in different places?

OP posts:
Thighdentitycrisis · 22/01/2022 09:02

Teacher is wrong

KO81 · 22/01/2022 09:02

Shone rhymes with on.

Dawn rhymes with warn.

Zone rhymes with tone.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/01/2022 09:03

Some accents do pronounce ‘one’ to rhyme with ‘con’.

The RP pronunciation of ‘shone’ - if that’s what the OP is asking - also rhymes with ‘con’.

aSofaNearYou · 22/01/2022 09:03

They don’t, but ok.

Maybe you say gone differently then because they definitely do.

myhousebuild · 22/01/2022 09:03

I'm Irish and corn and dawn DO NOT rhyme for me in the bloody slightest!!!

Dawn-- has an aw sound as in "awe"
Corn-- has an clear 'r' sound like in the word "for"

It's like saying law and for rhyme...

Corn, horn, torn
Dawn, lawn, spawn

For me shone rhymes with gone
Scone rhymes with cone...

FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 22/01/2022 09:03

Thanks LizBennet! I love these threads, they're facinating Smile

Grilledaubergines · 22/01/2022 09:03

@aSofaNearYou

They don’t, but ok.

Maybe you say gone differently then because they definitely do.

I don’t, but ok.
HaveringWavering · 22/01/2022 09:03

An Irish poster commented upthread one=won for her. But would the Irish accent (I know there are many but think eg Sharon Horgan) not sound more like “Woon”?

I think that someone like Tess Daly (from Birmingham” also says it to sound a bit like “Woon”?

I’m laughing that OP didn’t think it was relevant to mention right from the start that she lived in the US and the teacher was American!

I’m amazed at some many people whose accents rhyme “one” and “gone” and who don’t hear the “wun” in the BBC jingles.

But to move things on, can ANYBODY tell me why Adele always sings “love” as “loave”?!

PhilCornwall1 · 22/01/2022 09:04

@Grilledaubergines

Someone will come on in a minute and say spanner rhymes with potato, in Kent.
You should hear how we say that in Cornwall!!
HaveringWavering · 22/01/2022 09:05

@Grilledaubergines

Someone will come on in a minute and say spanner rhymes with potato, in Kent.
Grin
LizBennet · 22/01/2022 09:05

@FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack

Thanks LizBennet! I love these threads, they're facinating Smile
Me too, especially how adamant some posters are that other pronunciations are wrong 😂
aSofaNearYou · 22/01/2022 09:06

I don’t, but ok.

🙄

It's quite annoying when people are treating something where the other person obviously has an equally valid point of view as if theirs is fact. But I've lived in the North for a long time, where people are often find it incredibly difficult to accept that other accents exist, and it really boils my piss.

I'm too invested in this thread.

StoatMilk · 22/01/2022 09:06

@Thethingswedoforlove

Neither/ it rhymes with gone
This
myhousebuild · 22/01/2022 09:06

Also @mathanxiety I NEVER got the whole Shaun the sheep thing until now!! I just wondered why the spelling was wrong!! 🤣🤣

maddening · 22/01/2022 09:06
Grilledaubergines · 22/01/2022 09:08

@aSofaNearYou

I don’t, but ok.

🙄

It's quite annoying when people are treating something where the other person obviously has an equally valid point of view as if theirs is fact. But I've lived in the North for a long time, where people are often find it incredibly difficult to accept that other accents exist, and it really boils my piss.

I'm too invested in this thread.

Yes I think you are.

Well that was my point upthread really. And all I did was tell you that if not heard it ever said the way you describe. You told me I was wrong.

maddening · 22/01/2022 09:09

Sorry read further down, yes it would rhyme differently in different accents and when no think of a scottish accent I think of it rhyming with Dawn.

Lulu1919 · 22/01/2022 09:09

The sun shone

Is sh - on

Rhymes with...gone

NamechangeApril21 · 22/01/2022 09:10

@Freecuthbert

Shone rhymes with gone, con, don. Dawn rhymes with fawn, corn, worn. Zone rhymes with cone, bone, phone.

I am not sure if it is different in other accents, but the way I read and pronounce them none of them rhyme together.

All of the words in your first two lines rhyme together for me 🙈 maybe its an accent thing.

I'd pronounce shone like the boys name Sean/shaun

(Northern Ireland accent)

LynetteScavo · 22/01/2022 09:10

@IncompleteSenten

One, gone, non, bon, shone.
One, gun, bun, shun Grin
aSofaNearYou · 22/01/2022 09:10

*Yes I think you are.

Well that was my point upthread really. And all I did was tell you that if not heard it ever said the way you describe. You told me I was wrong.*

You are wrong to think people in the SE don't say it like that. You're probably not wrong to think some others say it the way you do.

Like I said, perhaps the SE is split into more accents than one (no pun intended).

Kennykenkencat · 22/01/2022 09:10

@Phrowzunn

😂 I can’t cope with people thinking ‘horn’ and ‘corn’ rhyme with ‘dawn’..?! Also, in what universe does ‘one’ rhyme with ‘gone’?!
In the English part of the universe

What does dawn rhyme with if not corn and horn

Doomscrolling · 22/01/2022 09:11

Accent threads are so entertaining!

I have two accents thanks to being brought up in different places and being an adaptable kid wishing to avoid being picked on.

In one accent dawn and warn have the same vowel sound and in the other they are miles apart.

TheOnAndOnly · 22/01/2022 09:12

Anyone interested in accents should check out Erik Singer on youtube. He's a dialect coach, lots of interesting videos of him if you habe time. This is a quick one [wun]

HalfBrick · 22/01/2022 09:13

Ah, the song windmills of your mind - the American song writer wrote:

Like a tunnel that you follow to a tunnel of its own
Down a hollow to a cavern where the sun has never shone

But the English singer insisted he sang them in his accent where own and shone DOES NOT rhyme.