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To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 2

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ClaudineClare · 21/01/2022 22:57

A follow on thread from

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4457488-to-be-really-enjoying-boris-johnson-s-downfall?msgid=114425763#114425763

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Roussette · 25/01/2022 14:20

He's brilliant isn't he. A figure of ridicule for the howling mob but intelligent, articulate and always spot on with his analysis

Hahaha.... he didn't say he, himself, were brilliant. But Johnson. So many disagree wouldn't you say?
Even within his own party....

Your comment did make me laugh out loud though and for that I thank you!
Especially as I was getting over the skinny victorian pencil spouting off

jgw1 · 25/01/2022 14:21

@JaniieJones

'it is entirely the choice of one man that the media are talking about parties.'

Oh they can talk about eating and drinking at work and try to convince people these were 'parties', it is the hysterical focusing on it that is wrong.

Well if Boris had any decency he would either not have had the parties or at least resigned when the news first came out. Given that he has not, what are the vast majority of this country who understand what right and wrong is meant to do about the situation?
SueSaid · 25/01/2022 14:23

'Especially as I was getting over the skinny victorian pencil spouting off'

Oh roussette that's mean! When I say the rough bellowing ringlety Angie I get told off.

Blossomtoes · 25/01/2022 14:23

Have we had, but Keir Starmer went down on one knee yet today?

No, nobody’s mentioned his beer either but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.

jgw1 · 25/01/2022 14:23

@Roussette

He's brilliant isn't he. A figure of ridicule for the howling mob but intelligent, articulate and always spot on with his analysis

Hahaha.... he didn't say he, himself, were brilliant. But Johnson. So many disagree wouldn't you say?
Even within his own party....

Your comment did make me laugh out loud though and for that I thank you!
Especially as I was getting over the skinny victorian pencil spouting off

Was he using his famous "common sense" again?
Mayorquimby2 · 25/01/2022 14:24

It's glorious that the delusional useless cunt who's spent his adult life idolizing and pretending to be Churchill is going to find out he was chamberlain all along.

jgw1 · 25/01/2022 14:25

@Blossomtoes

Have we had, but Keir Starmer went down on one knee yet today?

No, nobody’s mentioned his beer either but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time.

At least Boris knows what a woman is having had so many of them.
Roussette · 25/01/2022 14:26

But Janiie JR-M is different and I never had you down as a forelock tugger! Because that's what he has the great unwashed down as... peasants. Beneath him.

SueSaid · 25/01/2022 14:26

'Well if Boris had any decency he would either not have had the parties or at least resigned when the news first came out.'

Why would he resign because telly reporters tell him too?!

Let's get the facts first. If he had a rave in his flat, resign. If he had cake in his office then no. I'm hoping the media just may focus on Ukraine after his statement in the HOC today.

Trilley · 25/01/2022 14:27

I'm not. I find it incredible that most people are dancing round in glee over Boris's down fall when we are actually stepping up to the line to be involved in war with Russia.

What worries me is that Johnson is talking about sending the army in not because he thinks it will achieve anything but because he hopes it might save his neck. He's in danger of falling into the same trap as Blair did - i.e. looking at the beneficial effects for Thatcher of the Falklands factor and thinking that going to war will have the same results for him. It didn't work for Blair, and it certainly won't work for Johnson.

Roussette · 25/01/2022 14:28

jgw1
Here he is... I will say a look of desperation passes over his face though. And he manages to scurry away PDQ

twitter.com/BillyVacant/status/1485934189245575168

SueSaid · 25/01/2022 14:31

'But Janiie JR-M is different'

If you can call him a skinny victories pencil then I must be allowed to call Angie a bellowing ringlety embarrassment? Is it only if they are posh one can be rude? Grin

SueSaid · 25/01/2022 14:32

'What worries me is that Johnson is talking about sending the army in not because he thinks it will achieve anything but because he hopes it might save his neck. '

Oh stop it, he cannot act unilaterally he is obviously in serious discussion with the rest of NATO.

Blossomtoes · 25/01/2022 14:33

@JaniieJones

'Well if Boris had any decency he would either not have had the parties or at least resigned when the news first came out.'

Why would he resign because telly reporters tell him too?!

Let's get the facts first. If he had a rave in his flat, resign. If he had cake in his office then no. I'm hoping the media just may focus on Ukraine after his statement in the HOC today.

You’re really not getting this, are you? He should resign like any previous PM of my lifetime would have done because he broke his own rules and lied to Parliament. Can you imagine Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron or May behaving like this? I can’t. It’s about decency, integrity and honesty not “telly reporters”.
Roussette · 25/01/2022 14:33

Let's get the facts first. If he had a rave in his flat, resign. If he had cake in his office then no

And all the parties in between? What about those? You're missing out a huge chunk, maybe 15 'events'
And I. Do. Not. Care whether he went to them or not. He rubber stamped and even encouraged a party culture. A Wine Friday. The buck stops at him.

Roussette · 25/01/2022 14:34

If you can call him a skinny victories pencil then I must be allowed to call Angie a bellowing ringlety embarrassment?

Call her what you want. I'm not a moderator. You will be judged by who agrees with you.
Or not.

Trilley · 25/01/2022 14:36

@JaniieJones

'Well if Boris had any decency he would either not have had the parties or at least resigned when the news first came out.'

Why would he resign because telly reporters tell him too?!

Let's get the facts first. If he had a rave in his flat, resign. If he had cake in his office then no. I'm hoping the media just may focus on Ukraine after his statement in the HOC today.

Far from getting the facts, you're doing your best to obscure them. You know perfectly well that it wasn't just "cake in his office", it was his wife commandeering the Cabinet Room to lay out a full table of M&S party food, it was his wife and his interior decorator being present, and, most of all, it was the fact that even no. 10 accepts that this was an unlawful indoor gathering that was not reasonably required for work. All of which constitutes putting their hands up to the offence - and also admitting that Johnson lied to Parliament.

That, plus the fact that he was repeatedly putting two fingers up at his government's own rules, is why he should resign.

But something tells me you're still going to whitter on about how it was "only" a bit of birthday cake, and you're going to carry on quibbling about whether it was a party or not despite the fact that it's totally irrelevant. Because you daren't admit the facts.

Trilley · 25/01/2022 14:41

Rees-Mogg is another one who defends Johnson only because he knows that he's unlikely to get a job under any successor who has half a brain. Admittedly that leaves him with the chance of getting something major under the likes of Truss, but I guess he can't rely on that.

DuncinToffee · 25/01/2022 14:49

Just 10 minutes

Caroline Voaden
It was just ten minutes.

Ten minutes is a good long cuddle with a newborn grandchild.
Ten minutes is enough to hug and giggle with a close friend to lighten a difficult day.

^Ten minutes is time to touch, hug and say farewell to a dying parent.
But we didn’t get ten minutes^

DuncinToffee · 25/01/2022 14:50

Brian Bilston

To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 2
AdamRyan · 25/01/2022 14:52

It seems like we are getting awfully close to misconduct in public office now Shock
www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/misconduct-public-office

Flowertailbird · 25/01/2022 15:02

@JaniieJones It isn't about what telly people watch or what papers they read. It is about people seeing quite plainly that the person who made the rules didn't follow them. Why do you keep deflecting from the obvious??

DuncinToffee · 25/01/2022 15:17

Sky is reporting that the Sue Gray report could be released in full in coming days despite police investigation

news.sky.com/story/sue-gray-report-partygate-inquiry-could-be-released-in-full-in-coming-days-despite-police-investigation-12525162

ClaudineClare · 25/01/2022 15:21

That is a very interesting development. What will No.10's next move be?

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Blossomtoes · 25/01/2022 15:46

[quote AdamRyan]It seems like we are getting awfully close to misconduct in public office now Shock
www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/misconduct-public-office[/quote]
I’d say we’re there.

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