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To not get the e-mail sign off with pronoun's?

388 replies

hehimshehertheythem · 20/01/2022 22:21

He/him and she/her at the end of an email. Margaret I know you're a woman and Jeff I know you're a man. Why are you teaching me to suck eggs. I don't get it?

I have not once never see a they/them as a sign off, so what is the actual point?

I for one will not be taking part in this madness. But would like to understand the thought behind the people that do? If there is any thought that is.

OP posts:
Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 21/01/2022 08:18

Reading this thread I can see that a theme of the supporters of this is that it causes no harm to anyone. There is a complete lack of engagement with the arguments being put forward which clearly do signal harm. This seems to be yet another thread where people drop a woke statement and then disappear, feeling no need to consider any other points of view of offer any evidence that it does no harm. This seems to be consistent with the gender debate overall - no evidence needed and no need to consider the harm women say is being done to them.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 21/01/2022 08:20

Well an unnecessary Mr/Mrs/Miss option on a form is much more prolific than pronouns in emails and yet I've never seen a MN thread on this. I wonder why....?

Is it because those mr/miss options are not sitting within an ideology which is actively promoting the creation of numerous situations in which women can be (and have been)sexually assaulted, physically hurt, excluded from services and in which the sex-based protections set up in recognition of the structural disadvantage experienced by females dismantled?

Bagamoyo1 · 21/01/2022 08:22

@ImInStealthMode

I've been in regular email contact with an Ashley for several years. Never had need for a video or phone call. No idea if this Ashley is male or female, and makes absolutely fuck all difference to the work we collaborate on.

If I was referring to them to a colleague I'd say 'Ashley from Xcompany'

I could be wrong, but I think Ashley is male and Ashleigh is female.
ImInStealthMode · 21/01/2022 08:24

@Bagamoyo1 I know / know of at least three female Ashleys.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/01/2022 08:25

How on earth did the world still turn before we had pronouns? Grincommon sense and a thick skin

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/01/2022 08:26

@ImInStealthMode

I've been in regular email contact with an Ashley for several years. Never had need for a video or phone call. No idea if this Ashley is male or female, and makes absolutely fuck all difference to the work we collaborate on.

If I was referring to them to a colleague I'd say 'Ashley from Xcompany'

This.
EarthSight · 21/01/2022 08:26

He/him and she/her at the end of an email. Margaret I know you're a woman and Jeff I know you're a man. Why are you teaching me to suck eggs. I don't get it?

That's where you're wrong OP, as are many people going along with this.

Pronouns that are used in this manner DO NOT refer to someone's biological sex. If they did, there would be no need to state pronouns in the first place.

Instead it's an ideological, quasi-spiritual practice that is supposed to signal to other people what you feel about your gender identity, which is another thing altogether. Those ideas are based on gender stereotypes mostly, which is why a lot of people who promote this ideology are incredibly reluctant and almost bashful when it comes to defining what a woman is. They know how it will sound to other people when it comes out of their mouths so they will not give you a good answer or definition.

wonkylegs · 21/01/2022 08:26

Those saying it might be useful if you have a unisex name and it might help with clarity.....hahahahahaha
I have a very female name, I am very overtly female (short petite big boobs, long blonde hair who wears obviously female clothing) but work in the construction industry and for the past 20yrs I have consistently been referred to as MR Wonkylegs even by people who have spoken to and met me before. There is no way a preferred pronoun in an email footer would make an ounce of difference.

FemaleAndLearning · 21/01/2022 08:27

A 'short' list of some of the pronouns available! I might use these in my email: roar/roars/roarself.

ne/ner/neir/neirs/neirself
ne/nem/neir/neirs/nemself
ne/nem/nes/nes/nemself
ne/nem/nes/nes/neself
ne/nem/nir/nirs/nemself
ne/nem/nir/nirs/nirself
ne/ner/nerre/nerse/nerself
ne/nim/nis/nis/nimself
ne/nim/nir/nirs/nimself
ne/nir/nir/nirs/nirself
ne/nym/nis/nymself
ne/nym/nir/nymself
ne/nym/nyr/nyrs/nymself
ne/nym/nys/nymself
nis/nim/nir/nimself
nin/nim/(nins/nims)/nimself (nimse = more feminine form)
nix/nix/nix/nixself
no pronouns
no/non/nonself
ny/nym/nys/nys/nymself
one/one/ones/oneself
one/one/one’s/ones/oneself
ons/oms/ors/omself
ot/ot/ots/otself
other/others/otherself
ou/ou/ous/ous/ouself
peh/pehm/peh's/pehmself
per/pers/perself
phey/phem/pheir/pheirs/pheirself
pic/pim/per/pers/pimself
pur/purs/purself
py/(pyl/pylx)/pylx/pylx/pylxself
q/qs/qself
qe/qer/qers/qem/qemself
qu/qu/qus/qus/quself
quoi/quim
quoi/quoir
re/erm/rees/rees
re/rei/res/reiself
re/rem/rheir/remself
re/ren/reis/reisi/reniself
re/rhir/rhirself
rie/rhem/rer/rers/rerself
sae/saer/saer/saers/saerself
saw/zaer/zaers/zaerself
say/sair/sairs/sairself
se/hem/hes/hes/hemself
se/sem/ser/sers/serself or semself
se/sim/ser/sers/simself
se/syr/sym/syrs/syrself or symself
sei/seir/seirs/seirself
self/selfs/selfself (or self)
she/her/hers/herself
she/sheer/sheers/sheers/sheerself
shi/hir/hirs/hirself (only to be reclaimed by intersex people)
shi/zir/zirs/zirself
sho/sher/sherself
sho/shom’s/shomself
shy/hyr/hyr/hyrs/hyrself
sie/hir/hem/hemself
sie/hir/hen/hirs/henself
sie/hir/hirs/hirself
sie/mer/mers/merself
sie/sier/siers/sierself
swe/swes/sweself
te/ter/tem/ters/temself
tey/tem/ter/ters/temself
thae/thaer/thaer/thaers/thaerself
the/thim/thir/thirs/thimself
thee/har/har/hars/harself
they/them/their/theirs/themself
they/(theys/they's)/theyself
thi/thim/thits/thimself
this one/that one/that one’s/that one’s/that oneself
thon/thom/thor/thomself
thon/thon/thons/thonself
thy/thym/thyr/thymself
tre/trer/trem/tremself
ty/tyr/tym/tymself
tyr/tyr/tyrs/tyrs/tyrselfum/eh/er/umself
v/v/v's/v's
vae/vaer/vaem/vaerself
vae/vaer/vaers/vaerself
ve/vaer/vaers/vaers/vaerself
ve/vair
ve/vem/ver/vers/vemself
ve/vem/vir/virs/vemself
ve/ven/veen/vens/venself
ve/ven/ver/vers/verself or venself
ve/ver/veir/veirs/verself
ve/ver/vers/verself
ve/ver/vis/vis/verself
ve/vir/virs/virself
ve/vis/ver/verself
ve/vis/vim/vimself
ve/vis/vir/verself
ver/ver/ver/vers/verself
vi/vic/vics/vicself
vie/ver/vers/verself
vie/vir/vem/verself
vo/vos/vosself
voh/vohs/vohself
vy/vim/vir/virself
wy/wym/wyr/wyrself
xae/xaer/xaers/xaerself
xe/hem/hir/hirs/hemself
xe/hir/hir/hirs/hirself
xe/xem/xer/xers/xemself
xe/xem/xir/xirs/xemself
xe/xem/xyr/xyrs/xemself (or xyrself)
xe/xem/xyr/xyrs/xemself
xe/xem/xyr/xyrs/xyemself
xe/xim/xir/xirs/xirself
xe/xim/xis/ximself
xe/xir/xir/xirs/xirself
xer/xeir/xeirs/xeirself
xet/xets/xets/xetself
xey/xem/xeir/xeirs/xemself
xey/xem/xyr/xyrs/xemself
xi/xem/xer/xers/xemself
xie/hir/hirs
xie/xem/xyr/xemself
xie/xim/ximself
xit/xits/xits/xitself
xt/xts/xts/xtself
xy/xym/xys/xyms/xymself
xy/xyr/xyr/xyrs/xyrself
xye/xyem/xyi
xyz/xyz/xyzself
yey/yem/yeir/yeirs/yemself
yo/yo/yos/yoself
yre/yre/yre/yres/yreself
yt/yt/yts/ytself
z/zuf/zufs/zufself
za/zae/zas/zas/zaself
zae/zaer/zaers/zaerself
zae/zem/zaer/zaers/zemself
zay/zir/zirs/zirself
ze(or zie)/zir(or zim)/zirs/zirself
ze/em/zeir/zeirself
zee/zed/zeta/zetas/zedself
ze/hir/hir/hirs/hirself (note)
ze/hir/hirs/hirself
ze/mer/mzer/zers/zemself
ze/mer/zer/zers/zemself
ze/vaer/vaers/vaerself
ze/zan/zans/zanself
ze/zem/zeir/zeirs/zemself or zeirself
ze/zem/zes/zes/zirself
ze/zer/zem/zers/zemself
ze/zer/zer/zerself
ze/ziem/ziemself
ze/zim/zees/zees/zeeself
ze/zim/zis/zis/zimself
ze/zir/zir/zirs/zirself
ze/zyr/zyrs/zyrself
zed/zed/zeds/zedself
zed/zed/zeir/zedself
zet/zets/zets/zetself
zey/zem/zeir/zeirs/zemself
zhe/zer/zer/zers/zerself
zhe/zher/zhem/zhemself or zherself
zhe/zhim/zher/zhers/zhimself
zhe/zhim/zher/zhers/zherself
zhe/zhim/zhir/zhirs/zhirself
zhe/zhir/zhirs/zhirself
zhey/zhem/zheir/zhemself
zhi/hir/hirs/hirself
zhi/zhir/zhirs/zhirself
/s/s//_self
?/?s/?s/?/?self
ae/aeir/aer
ae/aem/aer/aers/aemself
ae/aer/aer/aes/aeself
ae/aer/aers/aerself
ae/aet/aet/aetself
aer/aer/aer/aers/aerself
ala/alum/alis/alis/alumself
ao/aos/aos/ao/aoself
av/ave/avem/avemself
ay/em/air/airs/emself
be/ber/bers/berself
be/berm/bers/bermself
be/bim/bis/bimself
bey(or be)/bem/beir/bemself
bi/bir/bier/biers/bierself
cae/caer/caers/caerself
ce/cem/cer/cers/cemself
ce/cem/hir/hirs/hirself
ce/cer/cers/cerself
ce/cer/ces/ces/ceself
ce/cet/cets/cetself
ce/cim/cir/cirs/cirself
ce/cir/cirs/cirself
cer/cers/cerself
che/chim/chis/chis/chimself
che/hap/han/hans/hapself
chi/chir/chirself
ci/cim/cir/cirs/cimself
cii/ciir/ciir/ciirs/ciirself
co/cos/co's/coself
co/cos/cos/coself
cy/cyr/cyr/cyrs/cykeself
dae/daem/daer/daemself
de/dem/deir/demself
de/dem/dems/demself
de/dim/dier/dierself
dey/de/deir/deirs/deyself
dhey/dhem/dher/dhemself
di/div/divs/divs/divself (individual)
dy/dym/dyr/dyrs/dymself
e/eir/eir/eirs/eirself
e/em/e's/e's/emself
e/em/es/es/emself
e/em/eir/eirs/emself
e/em/er/ers/emself
e/em/es/emself
e/em/ir/irs/emself
e/im/er/ers/imself
'e/'im/'er/'ers/'imself
e/rim/ris/rimself
ei/eim/eir/eirs/eimself
em/ems/emself
en/en/ens/enself
er/ign/sein/ihm
et/em/eri/eris/etself
et/ets/etself
ex/exs/exself
ey/em/eir/eirs/emself or eirself
ey/em/eyr/eyrs/emself
ey/eym/eyr/eyrs/eymself
fae/faen/faenself
fae/faem/faer/faers/faemself
fay/fayr/fays/fays/fayself
fe/faer/faerself
fe/fel/fiz/fizself
fe/fyc/fycs/fycs/fycself
fey/feir/feyself
fey/fer/fers/ferself
fey/feyr/feyrs/feyrself
fey/fir/fir/firs/firself
fi/fer/fer/fers/ferself
fie/(fem/fir)/fir/firs/femself or firself
fir/firs/firself
ge/gem/gur/gurs/gemself
ge/ger/ges/gers/gerself
ge/ger/gis/gis/gerself
ha/hem/hez/hemself
he/him/his/himself
hes/hem/heir/hemself
hi/hem/hes/hemself
hi/him/hir/himself
hi/hir/hir/hirs/hirself
hi/his/hiveself
hie/hie/hiez/ov hie
hie/hir/hirs/hemself
hie/hym/hymself
hin/hin/hins/hins/hinself
hir/hir/hirs/hirself
hu/hus/hus/huself
hx/hxm/hxs/hxs/hxmself
hy/hym/hys/hymself
hye/hyer/hyers/hyenself
hyt/yim/yis/yimself
id/idre/ids/ids/idself
ie/ier/iers/ierself
ip/im/ir/imself
ip/ip/ips/ips/ipsself
ir/im/iro/iros/iroself
ir/im/ir/imself
ir/irs/irself
ir/ire/iro/iros/ireself
it/its/it/its/itself
ith/imth/irth/imthself
jam/jam/jams/jams/jamself
jay/jem/jaer/jaers/jemself
je/jem/jer/jers/jhemself
je/jer/jers/jerself
jee/jeir/jem/jemself
jhe/jem/jeir/jeirs/jemself
jhe/jher/jher/jherself
jhey/jheir/jheirself
jhey/jhem/jhemself
ji/jem/jir/jirs/jemself
kai/kaim/kais/kais/kaiself
kai/kair/kairs/kairself
kai/kais/kaiself
ke/kem/keir/keirs/keirself
ke/kem/keir/keirs/kemself
ke/kem/kheir/kheirs/kemself
ke/kem/kir/kirs/kemself
kei/keir/keirs/keirself
kei/keir/keirs/keirself
key/kyr/kyrs/kyrself
ki/ker/kers/kerself
kie/kir/kir (or kirs)/kirself
kir/kir/kirs/kirs/kirself
kye/kyne/kyr/kyrs/kyrself or kyneself
kye/kyr/kyr/kyrs/kyrself
le/lem/les/les/lesself
lee/lim/lis/limself
le/lim/lims/limself
le/lim/lir/lirs/lirself
le/lim/lis/limself
li/lim/lims/limself
li/lir/lirs/lirself
mae/mae/mair/maes/maeself
mae/mer/mims/merself
mae/mim/mair/mairself
mie/mem/mer/mers/memself
mim/mim/myr/myrs/mimself
mo/mo’s/moself
mu/mur/mur/murs/murself (not to be used by those who are primarily a binary gender. the goal of these pronouns is to be completely nongendered)
mye/myr/myr/myrs/myrself
mys/myr/myrs/myrself
na/nan/nan/nan's/naself
nae/naem/naer/naers/naemself
nae/nym/nyr/nyrs/nymself
nai/nai/naiself
zi/zis/zou/zei
zie/hir/hirs/hirself
zie/sair/sairs/sairself
zie/vaer/vaers/vaerself
zie/zem/zemself
zie/zir/zirs/zirself
zit/zits/zitself
zme/zmyr/zmyrs/zmyrself
zyd/zys/zydself
zy/zys/zyself
zx/zxr/zxr/zxyz/zxyzself
ðe/ðim/ðir/ðirs (ð is pronounced "th")
þe/þim/þir/þirs (þ is pronounced "th")
ȝe/ȝim/ȝer/ȝers/ȝimself (ȝ is pronounced "z")
e/h/hs/hs/h*self
🐕animals🐈
a/aqua/aquum/aquaself
aq/aqu/aqus/aqself
aqu(a)/aquas/aquaself
a/lan/atla/atlan/atlantiself
bay/bays/bayself
blub/blubs/blubself
ceta/cetus/cetaself
cni/cnid/cnids/cnidself
co/cor/cora/coral/coralself
cra/cor/ab/rab/crabself
cy/cyan/ayn/yan/cyanself
di/div/iv/ive/diveself
dol/dolphi/dolphiself or dolphinself
eel/eels/eelself
en/end/endocer/endocera/endoceraself or endoself (Endoceras)
fin/fins/finsself
gill/gills/gillself
glub/glubs/glubself
gup/gups/gupself
guppy/guppys/guppyself
je/jel/jels/jelself
jel/jelm/jelier/jels/jellyfish
kelp/kelps/kelpself
koi/ik/ki/ko/koiself
med/meds/medself
mer/merm/mers/merself
mer/mers/merself
mers/mer/merself
na/naut/nauti/nautic/nautself or nautiself (nautical or nautilus)
ocean/ocean/oceans/oceans/oceanself
oshe/osh/ocen/ocean/oceanself
pearl/pearls/pearlself
pol/pols/polself
ree/reef/ref/refs/reefself
ri/riv/rier/river/riverself
rive/river/rivers/riverself
ro/or/ca/oca/orcaself
scu/scub/ba/uba/scubaself
sea/sear/seas/seaself
sea/sear/seaself
sea/ser/seas/serself
shark/sharks/sharkself
shell/shell/shells/shellself
splash/splish/splosh/splish/splishself
spo/spon/spongeself
squid/squids/squidself
stre/rem/tre/trea/streamself
te/sur/reas/treas/treasureself or treaself
wave/wave/waves/waveself
ail/ailous/ailouself
cat/cats/catself
fel/feli/felis/feliself
kitty/kittys/kitself (or kittyself)
kit/kits/kitself
kit/kitz/kitself
leo/leos/leon/leonself
leo/leos/leoself
lion/lions/lionself
lynx/lynx/lynxself
meow/mews/meowself
mew/meow/rowr/rowrs/meowself
mew/mews/mewself
pan/panth/pans/pantherself
panth/panthes/pantheself
paw/paws/pawself
purr/purrs/purrself
tig/tigs/tigself
tig/tig/tigs/tigerself
tig/tigris/tigriself
tiger/tigers/tigerself
tortie/torties/torties/torties/tortieself
tortie/torti/torti/tortis/tortieself or tortiself
whisker/whiskers/whiskerself
arc/arctos/arctoself
axo/ax/lotl/olotl/axolotlself or axoself (coined with the pronunciation "asholot" in mind)
baa/baas/baaself
ba/bat/bats/bats/batself
bear/bears/bearself
bun/buns/bunself
ca/cam/fla/flage/camouflageself or camoself
can/canis/caniself
che/chev/chevs/chevs/chevself
claw/claws/clawself
coy/yot/(co/ot)/(coyo/ote)/coyoteself
cub/cubs/cubself
do/dog/og/og/dogself
du/duck/ducks/duckself
e/chid/chis/chis/echidself or echidnaself
ele/leph/phan/phant/elephantself or eleself
fea/feath/feather/featherself
fen/fens/fenself
fir/fir/frog/frogs/frogself
fla/flam/ming/mingo/flamingoself, flaself, or mingself
fluff/fluffs/fluffself
fox/foxs/foxself
fur/furs/furself
gi/grr/grrs/grrself
gull/gulls/gullself
ham/hams/hamself
hou/hound/hounds/houndself
jack/jackal/jackalope/jackalself
ki/kid/kids/kidself
lamb/lambs/lambself
lup/lupus/lupuself
pan/pans/panself
pup/pups/pupself
ram/rams/ramself
rat/rats/ratself
re/rept/reptself or repself
rhi/cer/rhin/ceros/rhinocerosself or rhinoself
roar/roars/roarself
roo/roos/rooself
scale/scales/scaleself
squeak/squeaks/squeakself
sta/stag/stags/stagself
tod/tod/tods/tods/todself
woof/woofs/woofself
ze/zeb/zebr/zebrs/zebself
cer/cers/cerself
doe/does/doeself
deer/deers/deerself
el/elks/elkself
fawn/fawns/fawnself
fawn/fawns/fawnself
hart/harts/hartself
hrūt/hrūts/hrūtself
mun/muns/munself
mun/munt/muntself
prox/prox/proxself
roe/roes/roeself
sik/siks/sikself
sit/sits/sitself or sit/sit/sitself
stag/stags/stagself
🧚‍♀️magical🧚
ice/ice/ices/ices/iceself
ice/iced/ices/iceds/icedself
ice/icing/cings/cings/icingself
jam/jam/jams/jams/jamself
jel/jello/jels/jels/jelloself
jel/jelly/jels/jels/jellyself
kul/fi/fis/fis/kulfiself
(a/ag/aga)/gave/gaves/gaves/agaveself
affo/gato/affs/affos/affoself or affogatoself
aga/ve/ves/ves/agaveself
baklav/baklava/baklavs/baklavs/baklavaself
bean/paste/pastes/pastes/pasteself or beanpasteself
bear/claw/bear/bears/clawself or bearclawself
berli/berliner/berliner/beliners/berlinerself
bi/biko/kos/kos/bikoself
bi/bingka/bings/bings/bibingkaself
bilo/bilobilo/bils/bils/bilobiloself
bis/cuit/cuits/cuits/biscuitself
bis/scotti/bis/bis/biscottiself
bon/bonbon/bons/bonbons/bonself or bonbonself
bru/lee/brus/brus/bruleeself
buch/buchi/buches/buches/buchiself
cake/roll/rolls/rolls/cakerollself
cand/candied/cands/cands/candself or candiedself
cand/candy/cands/cands/candself or candyself
cara/mel/mels/mels/caraself or caramelself
cheese/cake/cheese/cakes/cheesecakeself
cho/choc/chocol/choco/chocoself
choc/choco/chocs/chocos/chocoself
co/coa/cos/coas/cocoaself
co/confect/fects/fects/confectself
cotton/candy/candies/candies/cottonself or cottoncandyself
cre/creme/cres/cremes/cremeself
cream/puff/puffs/puffs/creampuffself
cru/crumble/crumbs/crumbs/crumbleself
dan/dango/dans/dans/dangoself
deca/dent/decas/decas/decaself or decadentself
des/sert/ser/serts/dessertself
dol/dolci/dolcis/dolcis/dolciself
dul/dulce/dulces/dulces/dulceself
e/clair/clair/clairs/eclairself
eis/eis/eis/eis/eisself
fairy/bread/fair/fairies/fairyself or fairybreadself
fla/flan/flans/flans/flanself
fon/dant/fons/fons/fonself or fondantself
fro/froyo/yos/yos/froyoself
frost/frosted/frosts/frosteds/frostedself
frost/frosting/frosts/frosts/frostself or frostingself
fu/fudge/fus/fus/fudgeself
ga/nache/nache/naches/ganacheself
ga/teau/teaus/teaus/gateauself
ga/teaux/teauxs/teauxs/gateauxself
ge/noise/nois/noise/genoiseself
gel/gelato/gels/gelas/gelaself or gelatoself
gela/tin/gelas/gelas/gelaself or gelatinself
gina/taan/taans/taans/ginaself or ginataanself
gina/taang/taangs/taangs/ginaself or ginataangself
gla/glaze/glaz/glazes/glazeself
glaze/glazed/glaze/glazes/glazeself
grass/jelly/jellies/jellies/grassjellyself
gu/gum/gums/gums/gumself
gum/gummy/gums/gums/gummyself
halo/halo-halo/halos/halos/halo-haloself
haz/hazel/zels/zels/hazelself or hazetnutself
hon/honey/hons/honself or honeyself
lemon/drop/lems/lems/lemondropself
lico/rice/licos/licos/licoself or licoriceself
liquo/rice/liquos/liquos/liquoself or liquoriceself
maca/puno/punos/punos/macapunoself
maca/ron/rons/rons/macaronself
maca/roon/roons/roons/macaroonself
mae/map/pel/aple/mapleself
marma/lade/marmas/marmas/marmaself or marmaladeself
marsh/mallow/lows/lows/marshself, mallowself, or marshmallowself
marzi/pan/mar/marz/marziself or marzipanself
mer/ringue/ringues/ringues/ringueself or meringueself
mochi/mochis/mochiself
mol/lasses/lass/lasses/molself, molaself, or molassesself
moon/cake/cakes/cakes/mooncakes
mou/mousse/mousse/mousses/mousseself
nata/coco/des/des/natas, cocos, or natadecocoself
nect/nectar/nectar/nectars/nectarself
nou/gat/gats/gats/nougatself
o/pera/per/peras/operaself
ore/oreo/ore/ores/oreoself
panna/cotta/pannas/cottas/pannaself, cottaself, or pannacottaself
par/fait/par/faits/parfaitself
pas/pastry/pas/pas/pastryself
petit/four/four/fours/petitself, fourself, or petitfourself
pike/let/pikes/pikes/pikeletself
polvo/ron/rons/rons/polvoronself
pop/sicle/pops/pops/popself or popsicleself
pra/line/pras/pras/pralineself
profi/terole/fiter/fiters/profiself, fiterself, or profiteroleself
profi/terole/profis/profis/profiself or profiteroleself
profi/terole/profiter/profiters/profiself or profiteroleself
puff/puff/puffs/puffs/puffself
red/bean/reds/reds/redbeanself
red/velvet/reds/reds/redself or redvelvetself
sans/rival/sans/sans/sansself or sansrivalself
semi/freddo/semis/semis/semiself or semifreddoself
sher/bet/sher/shers/sherself or sherbetself
short/cake/shor/shors/shortcakeself
silv/vana/silvs/silvs/silvself or silvanaself
smo/smores/smore/smores/smoreself
snow/cone/cones/cones/snowconeself
sor/bet/sor/bets/sorbetself
sor/betes/sor/betes/sorbetesself
spri/sprinkles/spris/spris/sprinklesself
spu/moni/monis/monis/spumoniself
su/sucre/cres/cres/sucreself
su/sugar/sugar/sugars/sugarself
su/sugary/sugar/sugars/sugaryself
swe(e)/sweet/sweets/sweets/sweetself
swe(e)/sweet/swes/swes/sweetself
swi/swirl/swir/swirls/swirlself
sy/rup/syr/syr/syrupself
s’mo/s’mores/s’more/s’mores/s’moreself
ta/taho/tahs/tahs/tahoself
ta/tart/tar/tarts/tartself
taff/taffy/taffs/taffs/taffyself
tapi/pioca/pios/pios/tapiocaself
tira/misu/tir/tiras/tiraself or tiramisuself
toff/toffee/toffs/toffs/toffeeself
tor/torte/tor/tors/torteself
torr/torrone/torr/torrs/torroneself
tri/trifle/tris/tris/trifleself
truff/ffle/truffs/truffs/truffself or truffleself
tu/turon/tur/turs/turonself
tutti/frutti/tuttis/truttis/tuttiself, fruttiself, or tuttifruttiself
tux/tuxedo/tux/tuxes/tuxself or tuxedoself
ube/ube/ubes/ubes/ubeself
va/van/vanil/vani/vanillaself
wafe/wafer/wafer/wafers/waferself
whi/whip/whips/whips/whipself
ye/yema/yems/yems/yemaself
yule/log/yules/yules/yulelogself
zu/cotto/cotts/cotts/zuccottoself
zu/zucker/zucker/zuckers/zuckerself
é/clair/clair/clairs/éclairself
spri/sprinkles/spris/spris/sprinklesself
spu/moni/monis/monis/spumoniself
su/sucre/cres/cres/sucreself
su/sugar/sugar/sugars/sugarself
su/sugary/sugar/sugars/sugaryself
swe(e)/sweet/sweets/sweets/sweetself
swe(e)/sweet/swes/swes/sweetself
swi/swirl/swir/swirls/swirlself
sy/rup/syr/syr/syrupself
s’mo/s’mores/s’more/s’mores/s’moreself
ta/taho/tahs/tahs/tahoself
ta/tart/tar/tarts/tartself
taff/taffy/taffs/taffs/taffyself
tapi/pioca/pios/pios/tapiocaself
tira/misu/tir/tiras/tiraself or tiramisuself
toff/toffee/toffs/toffs/toffeeself
tor/torte/tor/tors/torteself
torr/torrone/torr/torrs/torroneself
tri/trifle/tris/tris/trifleself
truff/ffle/truffs/truffs/truffself or truffleself
tu/turon/tur/turs/turonself
tutti/frutti/tuttis/truttis/tuttiself, fruttiself, or tuttifruttiself
tux/tuxedo/tux/tuxes/tuxself or tuxedoself
ube/ube/ubes/ubes/ubeself
va/van/vanil/vani/vanillaself
wafe/wafer/wafer/wafers/waferself
whi/whip/whips/whips/whipself
ye/yema/yems/yems/yemaself
yule/log/yules/yules/yulelogself
zu/cotto/cotts/cotts/zuccottoself
zu/zucker/zucker/zuckers/zuckerself
é/clair/clair/clairs/éclairself
coo/coos/cooself
dai/dais/daiself
jel/jels/jelself
mew/mews/mewself
pep/peps/pepself
pez/pezze/pezelf
splash/splish/splosh/splish/splishself
su/suwi/suwis/suwiself
chi/chik/chik/chickself
co/cob/cobs/cobbleself
cra/craf/crafs/craftself
cre/cre/cres/creeperself
di/dim/dis/diamself
en/end/ends/enderself
mi/min/mines/mineself
mo/mob/mobs/mobself
oce/ocem/oces/ocelself
zo/zom/zos/zombself
ji/jin/jix/jinx/jinxself or jinxelf
spe/sep/sel/spell/spellself
al/alph/alphys/alphys/alphyself
as/asgore/asgores/asgores/asgoreself
as/asri/asriels/asriels/asriself
bloo/blook/blooks/blooks/blookself
char/chara/charas/charas/charaself
flo/flow/flows/floweys/floweyself
fris/frisk/frisks/frisks/friskself
met/mett/mettas/mettas/mettaself
nap/napsta/napstas/napstas/napstaself
pap/papy/papys/papys/papyruself
sans/sans/sans/sans/sanself
tem/temmie/temmies/temmies/temmieself
tori/toriel/toriels/toriels/toriself
un/und/unds/unds/undyneself
applejack/applejacks/applejackself
dash/dashies/dashieself
dia/diam/diams/diamself
flutter/flutters/flutterself
flutter/flutters/fluttershyself
lun/lun/lunself
lyr/lyra/lyras/lyrself
lyra/lyr/lyrs/lyraself
mo/moon/moons/moonself
moon/moons/moonself
nightmare/nightmares/nightmareself
pinkie/pinkies/pinkieself
rarity/raritys/rarityself
tia/tiar/tiars/tiarself
twi/twilights/twilightself
gem/gem/gems/gemself
glim/glimmer/glimmerself
glit/glitter/glitter/glitterself
kyuu/kyuu/kyuus/kyuuself
mag/magi/magis/magiself
(a/ag/aga)/gave/gaves/gaves/agaveself
affo/gato/affs/affos/affoself or affogatoself
aga/ve/ves/ves/agaveself
baklav/baklava/baklavs/baklavs/baklavaself
bean/paste/pastes/pastes/pasteself or beanpasteself
bear/claw/bear/bears/clawself or bearclawself
berli/berliner/berliner/beliners/berlinerself
bi/biko/kos/kos/bikoself
bi/bingka/bings/bings/bibingkaself
bilo/bilobilo/bils/bils/bilobiloself
bis/cuit/cuits/cuits/biscuitself
bis/scotti/bis/bis/biscottiself
bon/bonbon/bons/bonbons/bonself or bonbonself
bru/lee/brus/brus/bruleeself
buch/buchi/buches/buches/buchiself
cake/roll/rolls/rolls/cakerollself
cand/candied/cands/cands/candself or candiedself
cand/candy/cands/cands/candself or candyself
cara/mel/mels/mels/caraself or caramelself
cheese/cake/cheese/cakes/cheesecakeself
cho/choc/chocol/choco/chocoself
choc/choco/chocs/chocos/chocoself
co/coa/cos/coas/cocoaself
co/confect/fects/fects/confectself
cotton/candy/candies/candies/cottonself or cottoncandyself
cre/creme/cres/cremes/cremeself
cream/puff/puffs/puffs/creampuffself
cru/crumble/crumbs/crumbs/crumbleself
dan/dango/dans/dans/dangoself
deca/dent/decas/decas/decaself or decadentself
des/sert/ser/serts/dessertself
dol/dolci/dolcis/dolcis/dolciself
dul/dulce/dulces/dulces/dulceself
e/clair/clair/clairs/eclairself
eis/eis/eis/eis/eisself
fairy/bread/fair/fairies/fairyself or fairybreadself
fla/flan/flans/flans/flanself
fon/dant/fons/fons/fonself or fondantself
fro/froyo/yos/yos/froyoself
frost/frosted/frosts/frosteds/frostedself
frost/frosting/frosts/frosts/frostself or frostingself
fu/fudge/fus/fus/fudgeself
ga/nache/nache/naches/ganacheself
ga/teau/teaus/teaus/gateauself
ga/teaux/teauxs/teauxs/gateauxself
ge/noise/nois/noise/genoiseself
gel/gelato/gels/gelas/gelaself or gelatoself
gela/tin/gelas/gelas/gelaself or gelatinself
gina/taan/taans/taans/ginaself or ginataanself
gina/taang/taangs/taangs/ginaself or ginataangself
gla/glaze/glaz/glazes/glazeself
glaze/glazed/glaze/glazes/glazeself
grass/jelly/jellies/jellies/grassjellyself
gu/gum/gums/gums/gumself
gum/gummy/gums/gums/gummyself
halo/halo-halo/halos/halos/halo-haloself
haz/hazel/zels/zels/hazelself or hazetnutself
hon/honey/hons/honself or honeyself
ice/ice/ices/ices/iceself
ice/iced/ices/iceds/icedself
ice/icing/cings/cings/icingself
jam/jam/jams/jams/jamself
jel/jello/jels/jels/jelloself
jel/jelly/jels/jels/jellyself
kul/fi/fis/fis/kulfiself
lemon/drop/lems/lems/lemondropself
lico/rice/licos/licos/licoself or licoriceself
liquo/rice/liquos/liquos/liquoself or liquoriceself
maca/puno/punos/punos/macapunoself
maca/ron/rons/rons/macaronself
maca/roon/roons/roons/macaroonself
mae/map/pel/aple/mapleself
marma/lade/marmas/marmas/marmaself or marmaladeself
marsh/mallow/lows/lows/marshself, mallowself, or marshmallowself
marzi/pan/mar/marz/marziself or marzipanself
mer/ringue/ringues/ringues/ringueself or meringueself
mochi/mochis/mochiself
mol/lasses/lass/lasses/molself, molaself, or molassesself
moon/cake/cakes/cakes/mooncakes
mou/mousse/mousse/mousses/mousseself
nata/coco/des/des/natas, cocos, or natadecocoself
nect/nectar/nectar/nectars/nectarself
nou/gat/gats/gats/nougatself
o/pera/per/peras/operaself
ore/oreo/ore/ores/oreoself
panna/cotta/pannas/cottas/pannaself, cottaself, or pannacottaself
par/fait/par/faits/parfaitself
pas/pastry/pas/pas/pastryself
petit/four/four/fours/petitself, fourself, or petitfourself
pike/let/pikes/pikes/pikeletself
polvo/ron/rons/rons/polvoronself
pop/sicle/pops/pops/popself or popsicleself
pra/line/pras/pras/pralineself
profi/terole/fiter/fiters/profiself, fiterself, or profiteroleself
profi/terole/profis/profis/profiself or profiteroleself
profi/terole/profiter/profiters/profiself or profiteroleself
puff/puff/puffs/puffs/puffself
red/bean/reds/reds/redbeanself
red/velvet/reds/reds/redself or redvelvetself
sans/rival/sans/sans/sansself or sansrivalself
semi/freddo/semis/semis/semiself or semifreddoself
sher/bet/sher/shers/sherself or sherbetself
short/cake/shor/shors/shortcakeself
silv/vana/silvs/silvs/silvself or silvanaself
smo/smores/smore/smores/smoreself
snow/cone/cones/cones/snowconeself
sor/bet/sor/bets/sorbetself
sor/betes/sor/betes/sorbetesself
🩸scary👻
bloo/blood/blood/bloods/bloodself
bo/bon/bons/bons/boneself
cor/corpse/corpself
dae/daem/daeself
de/dea/dath/death/deathself
de/dem/demon’s/demself
dead/deads/deadself
dem/demon/demonself
di/der/dirt/dirts/dirtself
dulla/han/dulls/dulls/dullself, dullaself, or dullahanself
ecto/ects/ectself
en/tombed/tombs/tombs/tombself, tombedself, or entombedself
fran/franke/franken/frankenself
gar/goyle/gars/gars/garself
gheist/gheists/gheistself
gho/ghos/ghostself
ghost/ghosts/ghostself
ghou/ghoul/ghous/ghouls/ghoulself
go/gor/gors/goreself
gore/gores/goreself
gri/grim/grime/grimeself
grime/grimes/grimeself
gro/gore/gross/gross/goreself
gro/gross/grosself
haun/haunts/hauntself
hell/hound/hells/hounds/houndself
hell/hund/hells/hunds/hundself
li/lich/lis/lichs/lichself
necro/necrom/necself
nyc/nycto/nyctos/nyctoself
py/pyre/(pyr/pyre)/pyres/pyreself
rake/rake’s/rakeself
rie/eer/eri/erie/eeriself
sin/sins/sinself
ske/skel/skels/skeleself
slud/sludge/sludges/sludges/sludgeself
spir/spirit/spiritself
spiri/spirs/spirself
spoo/spook/spooks/spooks/spookself
vam/vamp/vampself
wer/weres/wereself
wi/wight/wis/wighs/wightself
wit/wits/witchself
wit/witch/witchself (use only if a witch)
zo/zom/zos/zombself
zom/zomb/zom’s/zombi/zombself
💀/💀s/💀self
kir/kira/kiras/kiraself
li/light/lights/lightself
mis/misa/misas/misaself
near/nears/nearself
rive/river/rivers/riverself
mel/mello/mellos/melloself
ter/teru/terus/teruself
sa/tyr/tyr/tyrs/tyrself or satyrself
sa/tyress/tyr/tyrs/satyresself
scy/scyll/scyr/scyrs/scyself, scyllself, or scyllaself
scy/scyll/scys/scys/scyself, scyllself, or scyllaself
sir/sire/siren/sirenself
sli/slime/slimes/slimeself
slime/slimes/slimeself
sphi/sphin/sphinx/sphinx/sphinxself
spiri/spirs/spirself
su/succu/bus/bus/succuself or succubusself
uni/corn/unis/unis/uniself
vam/vamp/vampself
wer/weres/wereself
wi/wight/wis/wighs/wightself
wit/wits/witchself
wit/witch/witchself (use only if a witch)
wrai/wraith/wrair/wrairs/wraithself
wurm/wurm/wur/wurs/wurmself
wy/wyr/wyrm/wyrmself (wyrm)
wy/wyv/wyvself (wyvern)
zo/zom/zos/zombself
zom/zomb/zom’s/zombi/zombself
al/raune/raus/raus/rauself, rauneself, or alrauneself
ali/corn/alis/alis/aliself
alie/alien/alienself
am/phip/phir/phirs/phipself, amphipself
amphip/tere/tere/teres/tereself, amphipself, or phipself
arach/ne/nes/nes/arachself or arachneself
bal/rog/bals/rogs/balself, rogself, or balrogself
basi/lisk/basis/lisks/basiself, liskself, or basiliskself
behe/moth/hes/hes/mothself or behemothself
boo/boos/booself
boo/boo’s/booself
ce/cerb/cer/cers/cerself, cerbself, berusself, or cerberusself
cen/taur/taur/taurs/cenself, taurself, or centaurself
cer/berus/berus/berus/cerself, cerbself, berusself, or cerberusself
chi/maera/maer/maers/chimaeraself
chi/meira/meir/meirs/chimeiraself
chi/mera/mer/mers/chimeraself
chu/chup/chupa/chupaself
coa/tl/coas/coas/coaself, tlself, or coatlself
cocka/trice/trices/trices/triceself, cockaself, or cockatriceself
cthu/cthul/sthuls/cthulhuself
cy/clops/cyr/cyrs/cyself or cyclopsself
cy/clops/cys/cyrs/cyself or cyclopsself
dae/daem/daeself
daey/daem/daes/daemself
dra/drac/drac/drax/dracoself
dra/drac/dracs/dracself
dra/drag/drago/dragoself
drag/drags/dragself
dra/drak/drakself
dra/drake/dras/dras/draself or drakeself
drae/draer/draerself
drae/drago/dragoself
dragon/dragons/dragonself
dry/dryad/drys/dryas/dryaself or dryadself
dulla/han/dulls/dulls/dullself, dullaself, or dullahanself
e/chid/chis/chis/echidself or echidnaself
ecto/ects/ectself
en/tombed/tombs/tombs/tombself, tombedself, or entombedself
fran/franke/franken/frankenself
gar/goyle/gars/gars/garself
ghou/ghoul/ghous/ghouls/ghoulself
gia/giant/gias/gias/giaself or giantself
go/lem/gos/gos/golemself, lemself, or goself
gob/goblin/blins/blins/blinself, gobself, or goblinself
gor/gorgon/gor/gors/gorself or gorgonself
grif/fin/fins/fins/griffself, finself, or griffinself
grif/fon/fons/fons/griffself, fonself, or griffonself
gry/phon/phons/phons/phonself, gryphself, or gryphonself
gwy/gwyll/gwylls/gwyllself (gwyllgi)
haun/haunts/hauntself
hell/hound/hells/hounds/houndself
hell/hund/hells/hunds/hundself
hippo/campus/camps/camps/hippoself or campuself
hippo/griff/griffs/griffs/hippoself or griffself
imp/imp/imps/imps/impself
in/incu/bus/bus/incuself or incubusself
kai/kaiju/kais(kaijus)/kaiself(kaijuself) (for japanese people only)
kra/ken/kras/kras/kraself, krakself, kenself, or krakenself
la/lamia/mias/mias/lamiaself or miaself
le/via/vias/vias/leviaself or viaself
levia/than/vias/vias/leviaself, viaself, or thanself
li/lich/lis/lichs/lichself
lind/wurm/wur/wurs/lindself, wurmself, or lindwurmself
lind/wyrm/wyr/wyrs/lindself, wyrmself, or lindwyrmself
man/drake/drakes/drakes/mandrakeself
mandra/gora/gor/gors/mandraself or goraself
manti/core/core/cores/coreself, mantiself, or manticoreself
mer/mers/mermai/merself
mim/mic/mims/mics/mimself, micself, or mimicself
mino/taur/taur/taurs/taurself, minoself, or minotaurself
necro/necrom/necself
o/orc/or/orcs/orcself or orself
peg/pega/pegs/pegas/pegaself
pery/ton/tons/tons/peryself or perytonself
phan/tom/toms/toms/phantomself
phoe/phoen/phoens/pheonself
quet/zal/quets/quets/quetself or quetzalself
reve/nant/reves/reves/reveself or revenantself
🌸plants🌹
fern/ferns/fernself
fi/fir/fir/firs/firself
fir/fir/fir/firs/firself
(a/ag/aga)/gave/gaves/gaves/agaveself
ae/onium/onis/onis/aeoniself or aeoniumself
aga/ve/ves/ves/agaveself
aloe/loe/loes/loes/aloeself
aloe/vera/ver/veras/aloeself, veraself or aloeveraself
barr/rrel/barr/barrs/barrself or barrelself
buck/horn/bucks/bucks/buckself or buckhornself
bunny/ear/ear/ears/bunnyearself
ca/cac/cactu/cactus/cactuself
cac(t)/cacta/cacts/cactas/cactaself
cac(t)/cacti/cacts/cactis/cactiself
cac(t)/cacto/cacts/cactos/cactoself
cac(t)/cactus/cacts/cactus/cactusself
cact/cact/cacts/cactself
cacta/ceae/ceaes/caeas/cactaself or cactaceaeself
car/don/car/dons/cardonself
cho(ll)/lla/chos/chos/chollaself
claret/cup/clar/clarets/claretself or claretcupself
eche/veria/ver/veries/echeself, veriaself, or echeveriaself
ga/steria/ster/steries/gasteriaself
grapto/petalum/petals/petals/graptoself, petalumself, or graptopetalumself
jo(vi)/jovi/(jo)vis/(jo)vis/joviself
jovi/barba/bar/barbs/joviself, barbaself, or jovibarbaself
liv(ing)/stone/livs/livs/livingstoneself or stoneself
mun/mun/munz/munz/munzself
nee/needle/dles/dles/needleself
nee/needle/nee(d)s/nee(d)s/needleself
pachy/cereus/cer/cereus/pachyself, cereusself, or pachysereusself
paro/dia/par/pars/parodiaself
pe/yote/yotes/yotes/peyoself or peyoteself
peyo/te/tes/tes/peyoself or peyoteself
prickly/pear/pear/pears/pricklyself or pricklypearself
re/butia/butis/butis/rebutiaself
rebu/tia/rebus/ties/rebutiaself
ro(su)/rosu/ros/rosus/rosuself
ro/sette/rose/rose/rosetteself, roself, or setteself
rosu/laria/lar/larias/rosuself, lariaself, or rosulariaself
sagua/guaro/(sa)guar/(sa)guaros/saguaroself
se/dum/ses/ses/sedumself
su/succu/cus/cus/succuself
succu/lent/cus/cus/succuself or succulentself
succu/lent/lents/lents/succuself or succulentself
thrift/thrifts/thriftself
hy/hys/hyself (hyacinth)
ir/ir/iris/iri/iriself
ja/min/jas/jasmi/jasmineself
je/min/jes/jessa/jessamineself
lau/rel/aur/laur/laurelself or laurself
lav/lav/lavs/lavs/lavself (lavender)
lav/laven/lavend/lavends/lavendself (lavender)
lil/lily/lils/lilies/lilself/lilyself
lo/lot/lotu/lotus/lotuself
ma/mag/nol/nolia/magnoliaself or noliaself
nar/narc/narcir/narcirs/narcself (soft c as in certain, narcissus)
pe/peony/peo/peon/peonyself
pe/per/peri/peri/periself or periwinkle
petal/petals/petalself
po/pop/py/oppy/poppyself
rho/rhod/rhode/rhodes/rhodeself
rie/orch/id/chid/orchidself, orchiself, or orchself
ro/ros/rose/roses/roseself
rose/roses/roseself
sa/sap/saps/saps/sapself
sy/syr/rin/ringa/syringaself
ti/tul/ul/uli/tulipself
to/mis/misel/miselt/mistletoeself
tul/tulip/tulips/tulips/tulipself
bam/bamb/bambs/bambs/bambself (bamboo)
bay/bays/bayself
be/beech/bies/beeches/beechself
beet/beets/beetself
bi/birch/bir/birs/birchself
bud/buds/budself
ca/cac/cactu/cactus/cactuself
ca/catta/cat/cattai/cattailself
clo/clover/clov/clovs/cloverself
co/cot/ton/otton/cottonself
cy/cyp/pres/(ypres/ipres)/cypresself
do/dog/gwo/gwod/dogwoodself
fern/fern/ferns/ferns/fernself
ga/gar/gard/garden/gardenself
gir/gra/grass/grass/grasself
ha/hol/ly/olly/hollyself
haw/hawth/thor/thorn/hawthornself or hawthself
(he/hi)/(hem/him)/lo/lock/hemlockself
iv/ivy/iv/ivs/ivself/ivyself
ko/ok/ra/kra/okraself
ku/kuk/kui/kuku/kukuiself
le/lel/el/elm/elmself
leaf/leafs/leafself
mae/map/pel/aple/mapleself
min/mint/mints/mints/mintself
mos/moss/mossir/mossirs/mosself
oak/oaken/oaks/oakens/oakself/oakenself
pa/pal/al/alm/palmself
pi/pin/ion/ñon/piñonself
pi/pin/pine/pines/pineself
po/pon/der/deros/ponderosaself, ponderself or ponself
po/pop/lar/lars/poplarself
reed/reed/reeds/reeds/reedself
sa/sap/saps/saps/sapself
se/seque/quoi/quoia/sequoiaself or sequoiself
shrub/shrub/shrubs/shrubs/shrubself
spa/ap/sen/spen/aspenself
sprout/sprouts/sproutself
spru/sep/ruce/spruce/spruceself or spruself
stem/stems/stemself
tho/thorn/thorns/thorns/thornself
tre/ter/ree/tree/treeself
vi/viol/viols/viols/violself (violet)
vin/vin/vins/vins/vinself
vine/vine/vines/vines/vineself
wi/weed/wis/weeds/weedself
will/willow/willow/willows/willowself
wreath/wreaths/wreathself
wu/wood/woo/woods/woodself
ama/amara/amaran/amaranth/amaranself
bloom/blooms/bloomself (plantkin-exclusive)
bo/bel/oss/bloss/blossomself or blosself
bud/buds/budself
ca/cam/mel/mellia/camelliaself or camellself
ca/car/carna/carnati/carnationself
ca/uc/yuc/ucca/yuccaself
co/lum/bi/bine/columbineself or columself
dai/daisy/dais/dais/daisyself
do/dog/gwo/gwod/dogwoodself
fir/firs/firself
fleur/fleurs/fleurself
flo/flor/flori/florid/floridself
flor/flora/floraself
flow/flower/flowers/flowerself
frie/friez/freesi/freesi/freesiaself
fu/fuch/uch/uchia/fuchsiaself
ha/hib/bis/cus/hibiscuself
haw/hawth/thor/thorn/hawthornself or hawthself
hy/cin/hyas/hyacin/hyacinthself or hyaself
wi/win/winkle/winkle/winkleself or periwinkle
wi/wist/wis/wister/wisteriaself, wistself, or wisterself
zi/zin/zin/zinni/zinniaself

crazyjinglist · 21/01/2022 08:27

I suppose you'll find all the forms where you have to choose Mr/Mrs weird as well then.

It's not weird, because Mr/Mrs/Miss are titles. Pronouns are not. In formal written communication (which might result from a process where you've had to fill in a form), people are still often addressed as Mr X, Mrs X etc. So it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask what their title is so that you can addressthem correctly. 3rd person personal pronouns are never used to address someone and are not part of anyone's actual name or title. They are merely grammatical words which exist in order to avoid constantly repeating a noun or name.

ecceromani · 21/01/2022 08:28

Well an unnecessary Mr/Mrs/Miss option on a form is much more prolific than pronouns in emails and yet I've never seen a MN thread on this. I wonder why....?

Whataboutary!
Just because we have unnecessary titles on forms doesn't mean we should add even more

EarthSight · 21/01/2022 08:28

Oh yes, and it also presumes, intrusively, that everyone has these innate feelings of gender when they don't. Anyone who isn't is ascribed another gender (funnily enough) which is agender or cisgender......so they are gendered by this ideology whether they like it or not!!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 21/01/2022 08:29

Take the politics out of pronouns and they are useful in emails.

But we have always had a notation for sex. The question we all need to ask is why reinvent this particular wheel? Who benefits?

I'm another with a name used by both sexes and have been Mr'd for many decades. It's OK. It's just a name. Doesn't actually hurt me.

Sex based Suffix, First Name, Last Name

@DepletingDopamine Nope! No gender here. And 'cis' anything is considered bad form in these parts.

I too am happy to discuss it, if you want to.

Strictlyfanoftenyears · 21/01/2022 08:29

I would "judge" if I received an email with a pronoun. Complete nonsense.

FirewomanSam · 21/01/2022 08:30

*I have a unisex name and a non-gendered title. Take the politics out of pronouns and they are useful in emails.

I also contact a lot of people from different cultures where the gender of the name is not known to me so I appreciate it when they use pronouns as Google isn't always clear*

Exactly this. My name is unisex, and people regularly assume I’m male. A lot of people here are saying they don’t understand why you even need to know pronouns, but it happens more often that you think. Like a customer or a colleague will forward my email and say something like ‘I emailed Sam and he suggested I ask you…’ or ‘Sam is having trouble with this, could you help him?’ Yes, it’s technically possible to send those emails and avoid pronouns altogether but it very quickly becomes clunky and awkward to do so. Since I started putting ‘she/her’ in my signature, that has happened far less.

On the flip side, I work with a lot of overseas customers and I’ve tripped up more than once when emailing an Andrea or a Kim or a Nikola who turned out to be male. Years ago (long before advertising pronouns was a common thing) I suggested to colleagues that we should have a field on our customer database to record gender and got told that it wasn’t relevant, but by someone who wasn’t customer facing at all and had never had to deal with that situation!

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/01/2022 08:30

@Greywhippet

It’s no skin off anyone’s nose to do it and it could make someone feel more comfortable with declaring who they want to be so why not? It’s not difficult
It's the thin end of the wedge though.

At the same time, why does the individual who wants us all to use pronouns get to decide how we speak? Why can't they just suck it up? As has been pointed out a gazillion times if you are present in an interaction people will use your name or you, pronouns are unlikely to be used. It's centring you for attentions sake.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/01/2022 08:31

A 'short' list of some of the pronouns available! I might use these in my email: roar/roars/roarself.

Thanks for that, a handy cut and keep guide! I'll pop a copy in my bag.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 21/01/2022 08:32

@deeplyambivalent

I'm less worried about pronouns than I am about apostrophes.
GrinGrin
VivX · 21/01/2022 08:33

Personality profile = Myers Briggs, Disc, etc...
Company paid for everyone to have one of these tests and then one of the managers suggested that everyone display their result publicly.

sashagabadon · 21/01/2022 08:35

I don’t think someone’s sec is relevant in the workplace as it’s no longer the 1950’s. I don’t need to know if the person emailing me to ask me something is male or female.
I also think it is a regressive policy and not a progressive especially for women.

sashagabadon · 21/01/2022 08:35

Sex not sec!

anon12345678901 · 21/01/2022 08:35

@dementedma

Its lip service to appease a tiny minority. Just refuse to do it. As far as I know refusal isnt a criminal offence....yet!
This. I won't do it if my work ask me too. I'll simply decline and not offer any further explanation, because I don't have too.
Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/01/2022 08:35

This will be the most useful one on this list in future I think

nar/narc/narcir/narcirs/narcself (soft c as in certain, narcissus)

Beamur · 21/01/2022 08:36

The topic of married titles is often debated on the feminist threads so it's incorrect to say people simply go along with them. They're a bit of a relic to some and a token of love and respect for other. Ultimately though, they're a patriarchal tag to show the unmarried women.
Unless what I am being contacted about actually requires my marriage status or my sex, or my preferred gender identity they can all bog off.
Thanks for the'short' list of pronouns. That'll use up a few rainforests if we have to add those as options on forms.

LadyPropane · 21/01/2022 08:36

@VivX

Personality profile = Myers Briggs, Disc, etc... Company paid for everyone to have one of these tests and then one of the managers suggested that everyone display their result publicly.
My company did this too. I absolutely hated it, but I can't quite put my finger on why...