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For not wanting to work full time?

501 replies

Wazza89 · 19/01/2022 10:38

DH and I are both shockingly bad at money management.

We both work and receive UC. I work 2 hours a week cleaning and DH works full time. I get around £700 a month (UC and child benefit is paid into my bank account) and DH earns just over £1400. He pays rent (£595), BT, and TV license. I (somehow) pay water rates, food, council tax, gas & electricity - on top of personal bills.

Between the both of us, we are in so much debt! I inherited a car a few months ago and DH has a finance car on hire purchase (costs £118 a month) but he never wanted to put me on the insurance. He’s now able to return his car so I told him I would make him a registered keeper on my car and the main insurer as it would be cheaper for both of us. He agreed then changed his mind because he said he’s worked too hard for his car. He also has Adobe Photoshop on subscription, a PC on finance, and buys food at work every day. (I tried making him sandwiches but then he wanted to give up bread so I told him to sort himself out as I’m not buying gluten free bread for someone who isn’t a diagnosed celiac.) Our family had to step in and lend him cash for his MOT a few months ago. And he’s completely in his 2k overdraft.

Saying that, I’m not much better nowadays. I don’t have many friends with kids DS’s age so I take him to soft play sometimes twice a week. Obviously there’s an entry fee and I normally end up buying myself a coffee on top of that. Although I drive to my mum’s and to the supermarket, I get ridiculously anxious about driving new places (or places that are really busy) so I pay for public transport even though I have fuel in my car. I also give DH fuel money on weekends as he’s a crap passenger.

I tell myself I’m going to be more organised and bring snacks for DS when we go places, but I’m scatty and end up buying food out half the time. Our TV broke and instead of keeping a smaller screen until we were in a better financial situation, I replaced it. I also bought an air fryer with the last of my savings (which, in hindsight, I didn’t need). I dye my hair regularly and if I see an item of clothing I like, I buy it then regret it later as my wardrobe desperately needs sorting.

DH thinks I should work more hours on evenings and weekends (neither of us can afford childcare), but the thought really stresses me out (and I know that sounds pathetic). The last time I worked weekends (16 hours a week), I wasn’t significantly better off as all my debt repayments increased and I was STILL doing everything around the house. A messy house really stresses me out as I have OCD (and potentially ADHD which is why I find organisation difficult). I don’t want to work full time until DS is in reception. Also, DS is displaying ASD traits and is socially a bit delayed. I want to give him my full attention.

AIBU for not wanting to return to work?

OP posts:
Tevion28 · 19/01/2022 19:52

Your very fortunate to be getting £700 a month and only work 2 hours a week. I suffer with my mental health and have to push myself out to work I do 25hrs a week and only just about reach £1000 I get no help at all from the welfare system.

Luredbyapomegranate · 19/01/2022 20:01

What’s really noticeable is how much you put yourself down. That’s not good, but it can also be a get out ‘I do these silly things, but it’s because I’m a bit crap so what can you do.’ From your post you sound smart and self aware - so try leaning into that more, reducing the self criticism, and getting help for your weaknesses (we all have them.)

You both need to get your financial shit together, or you are going to be broke for life. This will be even less fun at 70 than it is now, is not fair on your son, and will also teach him your habits.

  • have a serious chat with your husband, about the misery of living hand to mouth. You know him so how can you get him on board to change? Go and see stepchange, who can help you with budget and debts.

Go snd see your GP re anxiety (ask for CBT) and getting an ADHD diagnoses. I think once you get diagnosed you can get some training for work, which you could use for general organisation.

There is an ocean between working 2 hours a week and full time. You do need to up your PT a hours. There is no reason you can’t do 10-15 hours a week, while your husband looks
Try the organised mum method at home, and - and this is key - make sure he does a fair share.

You are a lot more capable than you think.

IDKAYBIF32 · 19/01/2022 20:02

Completely stop buying clothes. Marie Kondo your wardrobe. Marie Kondo your whole house. If you feel like the housework is so time consuming that it is a struggle, you probably have way too much stuff. If you have Netflix, watch:
Minimalism: A documentary about the important things (start with this one, it explains about the addiction to spending).
The Minimalists: Less is Now.
Sparking Joy with Marie Kondo.
The Magic of Tidying Up with Marie Kondo.
If you don't have Netflix, watch Sort Your Life Out with Stacey Solomon on BBC IPlayer. It will motivate you to get started. You will feel better once you've got started, and more in control. You are spending money mindlessly and out of habit, and need to stop. Easier said than done, but needs to be done.

For time management, read the organised mum method and the organised time method book. 30 minutes a day on housework should be adequate following a system like that.

Look at things that are free or very cheap to do. Walks, play groups, library story time etc.

Start meal planning and using the airfryer to make jacket potatoes for lunches, they are lovely in there!

Look on the money saving expert forums for debt/money advice. Sounds like you really need a budget and a debt payment plan.

FruitToast · 19/01/2022 20:10

@dressedstressed

Well yes elements are stressful but I'm highly educated and enjoy my job when we're not in the middle of a global pandemic. I couldn't imagine what I'd do if I had 6 hours a day child free! It also means that we have the money for holidays (covid permitting) and extracurricular activities for the DC. I think I'd be more stressed if I didn't work and didn't have the money to plan the little luxuries in life.

luckylavender · 19/01/2022 20:11

I'd say what I really think but I'd probably get banned.

AuntyBumBum · 19/01/2022 20:17

If you are stressed by work, then I wouldn't do it. Life is too short.

Basically you're managing ok, everyone has some debt, you're not living some crazy extravagant life, and sounds like you're trying to change things where possible Flowers

Twinkleylight · 19/01/2022 20:21

www.moneysavingexpert.com/

DrSbaitso · 19/01/2022 20:24

If you are stressed by work, then I wouldn't do it. Life is too short.

What if that means someone else has to do it and their life isn't any longer?

stairway · 19/01/2022 20:26

I don’t think an air fryer is necessarily a silly purchase as it might save energy bills. I’ve also decided I’m going to try and avoid working full time again ever. I’ve reduced my hours to just 12 a week and I’ve got to find away to live within my means.

babycornfortea · 19/01/2022 20:30

''If you are stressed by work, then I wouldn't do it. Life is too short.''

Ah shit, I've missed a trick here!!!!! Will hand notice in tomorrow. Grin

wishingitwasspring · 19/01/2022 20:31

You need to work more if you want that kind of lifestyle.

Simple.

Aaaa1167336 · 19/01/2022 20:36

@iguanadonna

Why is the OP getting benefits? She isn't on maternity leave, jobseeking, or disabled. She isn't unable to work. She doesn't look after a child full-time - she's using 15 hours a week of free childcare.

Why aren't we all paid to stay home with our children? Why are some people paid to not work?

I've always voted Labour but completely unable to grasp this.

Me too. Why is this allowed to happen?
FruitToast · 19/01/2022 20:38

@AuntyBumBum

If you are stressed by work, then I wouldn't do it. Life is too short.

Basically you're managing ok, everyone has some debt, you're not living some crazy extravagant life, and sounds like you're trying to change things where possible Flowers

Erm... No not everyone has some debt. If we can't afford something we don't buy it! We forego stuff to save for it instead.
AuntyBumBum · 19/01/2022 20:38

@DrSbaitso

If you are stressed by work, then I wouldn't do it. Life is too short.

What if that means someone else has to do it and their life isn't any longer?

I guess this is to be worked out between DOP and DH.
sqirrelfriends · 19/01/2022 20:41

If you are stressed by work, then I wouldn't do it. Life is too short.

Everyone gets stressed by work. Who will pay for the benefits when no one is paying tax as "life is too short"?

I worked throughout lockdown with a young toddler in tow. It was stressful, I worked every night after his bedtime to make up my hours. I carried on because I wanted to be a good example and because I still have bills to pay.

I'm sorry but this kind of attitude makes me really annoyed.

PattyPan · 19/01/2022 20:42

@AuntyBumBum

If you are stressed by work, then I wouldn't do it. Life is too short.

Basically you're managing ok, everyone has some debt, you're not living some crazy extravagant life, and sounds like you're trying to change things where possible Flowers

Everyone does not have debt and thinking that they do is a really dangerous mindset. And having lots of debt is much more stressful than having a job.
WalkingOnSonshine · 19/01/2022 20:46

Personally @AuntyBumBum life’s too short to have no self-respect and doss about on benefits.

KosherDill · 19/01/2022 20:47

As one who frequently works 12-hour days, I am struggling to relate to a two-hour workweek.

It would seem that selling the cars(s) to pay off debt and not buying lunches/snacks out should be immediate measures to start with.

anon12345678901 · 19/01/2022 20:50

@WalkingOnSonshine

Personally *@AuntyBumBum* life’s too short to have no self-respect and doss about on benefits.
👏🏼
Nikkic2123 · 19/01/2022 20:59

@Wazza89
How many hours would you have to do to make it worth your while working whilst on UC?

YukoandHiro · 19/01/2022 21:00

Agree with @PattyPan - we have no debt and try really hard to keep it that way

OhPatti · 19/01/2022 21:01

Everyone does not have debt and thinking that they do is a really dangerous mindset.

Mortgages are debts. They might be 'good' debts, but they're still debts.
Just saying.

blessedbethechocolate · 19/01/2022 21:05

When my children were small my ex worked days and I did 3 12 hour night shifts a week. I made good money and we still got a little help from tax credits. It saved on childcare too.

qualitygirl · 19/01/2022 21:06

No debt here...not even a mortgage (paid cash as we worked abroad and saved our arses off!)

I've never had a credit card or overdraft.

IDKAYBIF32 · 19/01/2022 21:10

@OhPatti

Mortgages are debts. They might be 'good' debts, but they're still debts.
Just saying.

But the alternative to having a mortgage is paying rent, and paying someone else's mortgage. With a mortgage, you are in technically in debt and paying interest, but you have somewhere to live that will eventually be yours. When you eventually pay it off and own the property, it will more than likely be worth more than what you have paid overall. It's not comparable to having other things on credit or being 2k in your overdraft.